What about the rideable Pokémon?
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SPOILERS! Pokemon Let's Go Pikachu & Eevee Datamine Info
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By the looks of it it's just something you can do with your own pokemon for fanciness.
Pretty much what I was about. People need to stop fantasizing about any remotely interesting PvP from Let's go and just have fun :P
Yeah but, who are they? Just the ones they showed...?
No data on that, might be just mons bigger than a certain size
I think the thing that’s shitty about the vastly increased bulk for every mon is the fact that it’s coupled with no held items (and no abilities). There are no Z-moves, no Life Orbs. That makes a giant difference in terms of ever being able to break things.
I've watched some matches on Nexus.
It's exactly as boring as I expected. Nothing ever dies. People who think this "meta" will ever have more than 2 players are delusional.
Who would have guessed, considering the game was never designed as multiplayer and is 100% focused on story mode and playing with your own son/daughter...
so far I'd say the meta draws many parallels with gen 2, and while that doesn't have a huge playerbase it does have a stable one. I could see a similar situation being achieved here.
Am I the only one seeing this as a full revival of the Gen 1 meta, minus annoying bugs like the critical hit bugs and other things, and with physical/special split? The 200 "EV" system is very similar to the stat boosts from Gen 1 (and 2). It might not be fun, but it sure works like Gen 1.
Yeah, this game won't be competitively viable, and I wasn't expecting it to be in the first place.
No hazard removal combined with the existence of Stealth Rock means that anything with a Rock weakness is already at a serious disadvantage if it doesn't have recovery, and even then, switching in will be tough. A severe lack of set up moves with the exception of a select few Pokemon will mean that this game will hugely benefit (Semi) Stall teams much like how it was in Gen 2 with the exception of no Curse, and nothing dies with how fat everything is. Speaking of recovery, many Pokemon lack reliable recovery such as Synthesis, Softboiled, Slack Off, etc and have to rely on Rest to heal themselves, and Sleep Talk is nonexistent which means the player has to time their Rests effectively or else they're screwed.
It just isn't a fun time, in my opinion. Just play this game for the single player mode/just for fun and don't take this seriously, although the new Teleport mechanics are neat and I hope they stick around for Gen 8.
No hazard removal combined with the existence of Stealth Rock means that anything with a Rock weakness is already at a serious disadvantage if it doesn't have recovery, and even then, switching in will be tough. A severe lack of set up moves with the exception of a select few Pokemon will mean that this game will hugely benefit (Semi) Stall teams much like how it was in Gen 2 with the exception of no Curse, and nothing dies with how fat everything is. Speaking of recovery, many Pokemon lack reliable recovery such as Synthesis, Softboiled, Slack Off, etc and have to rely on Rest to heal themselves, and Sleep Talk is nonexistent which means the player has to time their Rests effectively or else they're screwed.
It just isn't a fun time, in my opinion. Just play this game for the single player mode/just for fun and don't take this seriously, although the new Teleport mechanics are neat and I hope they stick around for Gen 8.
You clearly haven't seen how bulky everything is lol, u can switch in on hazards and roost right back up
But that's the point he's making, if you don't have a built-in recovery you just can't use that Pokemon.
Got Roost / Slack Off / Recover / whatever + a setup move? You can do.
You don't? Unlucky.
Incorrect, many mons with those moves are opting for Rest regardless to mitigate the importance of status. Rest is the best recovery option as it stands, and all fully evolved Pokémon learn it (other than ditto but you know).
Where exactly are you all watching these lgpe like matches. As in give the site url.
You missed my point in my original comment where I talked about Rest and how a player has to time their Rest usage correctly or their mon is going down in 3 turns or less.
OHKO moves will be a way to get through the bulky pokemon. And no items or abilities means no focus sash or sturdy.
OHKO moves have always been banned in any competitive smogon format and never been viable in VGC, and have extremely limited distribution in Let's Go otherwise :P
Not happening
VGC is different than 6 v 6 singles. Also Sheer Cold Articuno was pretty good in Kanto Classic in Gen 6. Even saw some good Horn Drill Seakings. (3rd highest ranked Kanto Classic match https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/kantoclassic-333077633) There's no Sheer Cold here so people will have to risk being switched in on by the pokemon that are immune to other OHKO moves but I think they'll be pretty good especially if everything is as bulky as people think with the 200 points to every stat, although I don't think thats how it actually works. And maybe Smogon will allow it for this game. Or maybe, even though there's no battle spot for this game, there will be some other ranked online with a different name that has rules in which OHKO moves will be allowed.
Whats wishlisting. I just said maybe the game will have ranked online. We know it has online battles so maybe it will have ranked online. If it doesn't then you can still play without any rules in which ohko moves will be allowed.
A large majority of hits (most neutral ones) literally cannot 3hko a somewhat bulky opponent.
they confirmed there is no ranked online so no
Wish listing is going "Maybe X will happen" or "I'd love to see Y" without any concrete evidence to support it. It causes threads to spiral into meaningless spam and usually ends with the thread getting locked and the clutter removed. For now, it would be best if we stuck with just the facts and what we have before us.
Yes, any attempts to make a metagame out of LG is a hopeless endeavor because of how fat and bulky everyone is with the free candy boosts and friendship boosts. Unless you really liked Gen 2's stall meta, this doesn't look appealing. And yes, I would like to see the changes to the chargeup moves and to Teleport make it into the gen 8 games, but considering this is Gamefreak, who knows. As it stands, this is not your PvP game, and shouldn't be attempted to be made into one.
Oh, and in regards to why Sheer Cold Articuno... that only worked because it had Mind Reader. That's not here in Lets GO. Relying on 30% accuracy to deal with overly tanky mons is a horrible strategy that will fail more often than it will help out, and the fails will be spectacular.
Where was this. I saw a long time ago they said no battle spot. Not no ranked online.
It's a guess to say that there won't be any ranked online. Also the Articunos didn't use Mind Reader, Mind Reader is useless, you can just switch out.
Is kinda sad that Let's Go gonna suck as a competitive game, some things were intersesting (such as Teleport, Melmetal and Solar Beam) and, while the candy and friendship boost mechanics are ridiculous, not using them could (sorta) solve the problem. But only having the 151 originals + Melmetal is... not varied, at least (Also Defog apparently doesn't exist).
But, man, no ranked online battles in a pokémon game is a big letdown; the competitive scene is one of the main reasons to still playing a pokémon game now, and also make the whole nature locking mechanic useless (unless you are one of those who use perfect IVs, especific natures and max. EV on their mons in the main adventure).
But, man, no ranked online battles in a pokémon game is a big letdown; the competitive scene is one of the main reasons to still playing a pokémon game now, and also make the whole nature locking mechanic useless (unless you are one of those who use perfect IVs, especific natures and max. EV on their mons in the main adventure).
