I think that, for DD Dragonite, Dragon/Electric/Ground coverage is the best if you pair it with Magnezone, who can magnet pull Ferrothorn and Forretress and has STAB Flash Cannon for Whimsicott, the only poke who resists Dragon/Electric/Ground.
Now, I struggle with an optimal EV spread for Adamant DDnite. At +1, I think it barely fails to outspeed base 130s, so which relevant scarfers should I keep tabs on? How many speed EVs should I put?
It is BL meaning it is right now too broken for UU making it a reasonable option to use in OU.Is Weavile relevant? I hear it's very good in UU, so it could see its fair share of usage in OU.
Is Weavile relevant? I hear it's very good in UU, so it could see its fair share of usage in OU.
Espeed is the determining factor. Being able to revenge kill AND wall break is incredibly useful, and I'd use it over Kyurem (his physical set only) at least.Have you guys been able to consistently use the Choice Band set? I always find myself better off with something like Scarf Garchomp or even Kyurem-B in his slot because they're much faster, and despite not hitting as hard they don't have to worry about taking a hit every damn time because you get outsped and can switch in more comfortably (because you want to preserve Multiscale). Garchomp also resists SR and Kyurem is not weak to Ice and also has a great offensive ability. Thoughts?
The problem is that Dragonite gives up too much momentum because of it's bad speed and being locked into a move, and that in a HO team is very frustrating to work around. Not to mention it looses too much of it's effectiveness if they manage to set up Stealth Rock. >.>Espeed is the determining factor. Being able to revenge kill AND wall break is incredibly useful, and I'd use it over Kyurem (his physical set only) at least.
Not "I guess," the number of pokes that Espeed can 2hko is very impressive, and those that aren't are almost always slower. For the role of wall breaker on HO, there isn't a better dragonThe problem is that Dragonite gives up too much momentum because of it's bad speed and being locked into a move, and that in a HO team is very frustrating to work around. Not to mention it looses too much of it's effectiveness if they manage to set up Stealth Rock. >.>
ES is very good, specifically to hit Talonflame, but the bulky set is much better for that anyway, because it can at least switch in better, and being locked on ES sucks so much. But yeah, I think it's better than Kyurem-B on a similar role, I guess.
Speaking of Weavile, seeing how ice punch ohkos through mc of any offensive dnite and icicle crash always ohkos any set, I would say breaking mc isnt your highest priority unless dnite already has its boosts.Ice Shard KO's after MS is broken so outspeeding is not irrelevant. Even if you outspeed +1 ES doesn't KO (even with rocks it's still not guaranteed to KO)
Well, could someone tell me what a CBBNite is?
Would someone mind posting the "Crash Boom Bang" Dragonite set?
I accidently passed over it and realized it just after I posted that.Scroll up for 2 seconds. It's right there.
i recently got an aqua jet dratini off wonder trade along with an extreme speed version should i use the extreme speed or aqua jet version
my reason is surprise people expect extreme speed not aqua jetRegarding CBBnite:
252 SpA Raikou Hidden Power Ice vs. 216 HP / 228 SpD Dragonite: 196-232 (51.9 - 61.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
> mfw it came in after rocks, still survived the hit, and revenge killed my Raikou with EQ. Goddamn.
Aqua Jet is a 40 BP +1 priority move...
While ESpeed is an 80 BP +2 priority move :D
my reason is surprise people expect extreme speed not aqua jet