Right, so you can make a big stink all you want. I can make a big stink back. I despise seeing people comment on others character based on morals, especially when it is irrelevant. It is just petty self-importance. Randy being Manny is fun, funny, interesting to watch. Just being amazingly dominant with no character issues would also be fun to watch. And in both cases, the sum total of his career's work is hall of fame level. This is not the god's best pals hall of fame.
I do not think he is going to be a first ballot hall of famer or anything close. For some reason (maybe because of the internet era of hypercriticism? maybe because of the steroid era and hoping for more time to find out sordid details?) hall of fames seemed to have really turned into gigantic pussies about being willing to usher people in anymore :(
Phoenix, I am pretty sure Pete Rose was the biggest thing Xephyr was alluding to, but I could be wrong.