VGC Need help with my Trick Room team

[Sour Sprout]

I want to make a trick room sun team revolving around Calyrex-Ice and Torkoal, any advice of the team so far? (I also thought about Lava Plume on Torkoal with a Ceruledge with Flash Fire)

horsey (Calyrex-Ice) @ Clear Amulet
Ability: As One (Glastrier)
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk
Brave Nature
IVs: 0 Spe
- Glacial Lance
- High Horsepower
- Trick Room
- Protect

turtle (Torkoal) @ Charcoal
Ability: Drought
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
Quiet Nature
IVs: 0 Atk / 0 Spe
- Eruption
- Flamethrower
- Solar Beam
- Protect

giraffe (Farigiraf) @ Ability Shield
Ability: Armor Tail
Level: 50
Tera Type: Normal
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 SpD
Sassy Nature
IVs: 0 Atk / 0 Spe
- Dazzling Gleam
- Helping Hand
- Trick Room
- Protect

angy (Annihilape) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Defiant
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fighting
EVs: 252 HP / 52 Atk / 204 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Final Gambit
- Close Combat
- Night Slash
- U-turn

mungy (Amoonguss) @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Regenerator
Level: 50
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Pollen Puff
- Rage Powder
- Spore
- Clear Smog

frend (Ogerpon-Cornerstone) (F) @ Cornerstone Mask
Ability: Sturdy
Level: 50
Tera Type: Rock
EVs: 252 HP / 156 Atk / 92 Def / 4 SpD / 4 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Ivy Cudgel
- Knock Off
- Follow Me
- Spiky Shield

 

[gephicka]

hey hey!

to start off with, the team concept isn’t bad! i think there are a few changes i would suggest.

1. Change farigaraf to Indeedee
This both gives you much needed priority block, additional redirection, and additional miraidon counterplay via changing terrain, it also allows you to drop ogerpon which doesn’t really fit on this kind of build

2. change ogerpon to an ursaluna (bloodmoon or hisui) or gallade
either works! my point it basically just that by adding indeedee and thus psyspam functionality you could definitely use gallade as it improves your calyrex-s mu or the ursalunas as they do the same while also helping out into miraidon- i would test both’

3.a few move changes
- night slash annihilape is unviable, use shadow claw for ghost STAB!
-solar beam tork is okay, i think earth power is better to hit mons like incineroar that can give your team some headaches
-make sure you put different tera types on amoonguss and annihilape! i would recommend fairy and grass respectively.

lmk if you have any additional questions!

 

[Sour Sprout]

hey hey!

to start off with, the team concept isn’t bad! i think there are a few changes i would suggest.

1. Change farigaraf to Indeedee
This both gives you much needed priority block, additional redirection, and additional miraidon counterplay via changing terrain, it also allows you to drop ogerpon which doesn’t really fit on this kind of build

2. change ogerpon to an ursaluna (bloodmoon or hisui) or gallade
either works! my point it basically just that by adding indeedee and thus psyspam functionality you could definitely use gallade as it improves your calyrex-s mu or the ursalunas as they do the same while also helping out into miraidon- i would test both’

3.a few move changes
- night slash annihilape is unviable, use shadow claw for ghost STAB!
-solar beam tork is okay, i think earth power is better to hit mons like incineroar that can give your team some headaches
-make sure you put different tera types on amoonguss and annihilape! i would recommend fairy and grass respectively.

lmk if you have any additional questions!

I like having Calyrex and Torkoal on at the same time and since Calyrex has High Horsepower to hit Fire types my main weakness is water type like Urshifu and Kyogre and my main counterplay is Solar Beam since it insta charges in sun.
And my main reason for Ogerpon is for the follow me to hit through grass type Pokémon and since it has sturdy and can outlive surging strikes so I can always get Trick Room up with Farigaraf, and the priority block from moves like Fake Out and Aqua Jet which are big Issues for my Trick Room team which is why I have Farigaraf.
And although I will definitely change Ogerpon out for Indeedee, my main reason I have Ogerpon in the first place is because I like him and I think he's a cute silly little guy.

I'll try the changes out though and see how it does, tysm.

 

[gephicka]

And my main reason for Ogerpon is for the follow me to hit through grass type Pokémon and since it has sturdy and can outlive surging strikes so I can always get Trick Room up with Farigaraf, and the priority block from moves like Fake Out and Aqua Jet which are big Issues for my Trick Room team which is why I have Farigaraf.

if you run safety goggles indeedee-f it basically compresses ogerpon and farig's role into one, allowing u to run another tr sweeper

And although I will definitely change Ogerpon out for Indeedee, my main reason I have Ogerpon in the first place is because I like him and I think he's a cute silly little guy.

definitely fair! hard tr just isn't realy the archtype for ogerpon

 

[Hupcosmommycar]

I want to make a trick room sun team revolving around Calyrex-Ice and Torkoal, any advice of the team so far? (I also thought about Lava Plume on Torkoal with a Ceruledge with Flash Fire)

horsey (Calyrex-Ice) @ Clear Amulet
Ability: As One (Glastrier)
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk
Brave Nature
IVs: 0 Spe
- Glacial Lance
- High Horsepower
- Trick Room
- Protect

turtle (Torkoal) @ Charcoal
Ability: Drought
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
Quiet Nature
IVs: 0 Atk / 0 Spe
- Eruption
- Flamethrower
- Solar Beam
- Protect

giraffe (Farigiraf) @ Ability Shield
Ability: Armor Tail
Level: 50
Tera Type: Normal
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 SpD
Sassy Nature
IVs: 0 Atk / 0 Spe
- Dazzling Gleam
- Helping Hand
- Trick Room
- Protect

angy (Annihilape) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Defiant
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fighting
EVs: 252 HP / 52 Atk / 204 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Final Gambit
- Close Combat
- Night Slash
- U-turn

mungy (Amoonguss) @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Regenerator
Level: 50
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Pollen Puff
- Rage Powder
- Spore
- Clear Smog

frend (Ogerpon-Cornerstone) (F) @ Cornerstone Mask
Ability: Sturdy
Level: 50
Tera Type: Rock
EVs: 252 HP / 156 Atk / 92 Def / 4 SpD / 4 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Ivy Cudgel
- Knock Off
- Follow Me
- Spiky Shield

The ape is unviable here bc it is nor contributing to the team at all much and ogerpon needs more speed

 

[Sour Sprout]

The ape is unviable here bc it is nor contributing to the team at all much and ogerpon needs more speed

I use both as fodder for a switch, I want a weak ogerpon to use follow me to redirect some damage to farigiraf so it can set up trick room and then i can get a free switch to sweep. And I use annihilape as a cheeky final gambit OHKO which can kill all the popular legendaries in the format with one hit of either final gambit or shadow claw.

 

[Im999]

A few things:

If you are going to use Farigiraf, the Ability Shield is not necessary, I recommend a Sitrus Berry.

The set is also rather odd, Foul Play is almost necessary to counter opposing Calyrex-Ice-Riders, so I would recommend running it over either Protect or Helping Hand(if you need both, running it over Dazzling Gleam is fine as well.)

You are missing 4 EVs on Calyrex-Ice-Rider and Amoonguss.

The Teras don't seem to be set(except for Calyrex-Ice-Rider and Ogerpon.)

I suggest running Choice Specs Torkoal with this set: https://pokepast.es/7659c2e7e909ad2f.

 

[Hupcosmommycar]

I use both as fodder for a switch, I want a weak ogerpon to use follow me to redirect some damage to farigiraf so it can set up trick room and then i can get a free switch to sweep. And I use annihilape as a cheeky final gambit OHKO which can kill all the popular legendaries in the format with one hit of either final gambit or shadow claw.

use urshifu-rs instead! It is a good Pokemon that can work outside of TR and it is the most used pokemon in VGC

 

[Pengu]

The ape is unviable here bc it is nor contributing to the team at all much and ogerpon needs more speed

Annihilape is a good choice on Calyrex-I teams for many reasons;

First of all, it has access to Final Gambit. In combination with Choice Scraf and Annihilape’s surprisingly high HP stat, it can pick up some cheeky OHKOs onto annoying Pokémon, including things like opposing Calyrex-I.

It is also able to very easily OHKO Calyrex-S with Shadow Claw/Rage Fist. Although Urshifu can do the same, it needs Tera Water or the Rain to do so. This just makes Annihilape a lot more consistent in that matchup.

Finally, Annihilape is a Ghost-type, meaning that it doesn’t have to Tera to avoid Fake Out like Urshifu has to.

Also forgot, but Annihilape gets Defiant to counteract Intimidate from Incineroar or other random drops from things like Moonblast.

 

[iPetBigfoot]

Annihilape is a good choice on Calyrex-I teams for many reasons;

First of all, it has access to Final Gambit. In combination with Choice Scraf and Annihilape’s surprisingly high HP stat, it can pick up some cheeky OHKOs onto annoying Pokémon, including things like opposing Calyrex-I.

It is also able to very easily OHKO Calyrex-S with Shadow Claw/Rage Fist. Although Urshifu can do the same, it needs Tera Water or the Rain to do so. This just makes Annihilape a lot more consistent in that matchup.

Finally, Annihilape is a Ghost-type, meaning that it doesn’t have to Tera to avoid Fake Out like Urshifu has to.

Also forgot, but Annihilape gets Defiant to counteract Intimidate from Incineroar or other random drops from things like Moonblast.

Adding onto this, it can boost Calyrex-I with coaching.