Duskbros and Ho-Bros, we are so back.
This is probably the one time I am so fucking excited to see Ho oh because Flutter Mane and Zacian Crowned is making me lose my fucking mind. I don't even care about what else the Indigo Disk brings. I just want Ho oh backView attachment 577334
Duskbros and Ho-Bros, we are so back.
I might have mentioned this but I could see Koraidon/Miraidon stocks going up even more in the wake of this. Ho-oh benefits massively from Koraidon's Sun while checking the mentioned Fairies that the Bikes hate running into, but faces an OHKO from a boosted Koraidon's Dragon STAB while failing to OHKO a Tera'd one in return while Miraidon resists its Dual STAB and OHKOs with Electro Drift or 2HKOs with Specs Draco. Both dragons have ways to partner with it without being significantly encumbered in the match-up themselves.This is probably the one time I am so fucking excited to see Ho oh because Flutter Mane and Zacian Crowned is making me lose my fucking mind. I don't even care about what else the Indigo Disk brings. I just want Ho oh back
Although, I am seriously wondering if Necrozma will be worth much because Xerneas isn't around to bully. I guess being another pokemon that shits on Zacian helps
I am really hoping they introduce a dragon type close combat simply to complete the trinity of 120 base damage moves for Koraidon. I don't even care if it becomes too strong lol
Yeah, I feel like for Koraidon, it's scarf sets are gonna suffer because two of the shit it runs does nothing to Ho oh and outrage is a dangerous option to recklessly use. Gamefuck just give us glaive rush for all dragon types already for fuck sake. Although, I do feel like we'll have a situation similar to natdex ubers where scarf sets may be checked, Koraidon just switches gears, as in literally switch gears because it's a fucking motorbike, and scale shots its way through Ho oh and rips apart the entire tier, ah lah SS OU GarchompI might have mentioned this but I could see Koraidon/Miraidon stocks going up even more in the wake of this. Ho-oh benefits massively from Koraidon's Sun while checking the mentioned Fairies that the Bikes hate running into, but faces an OHKO from a boosted Koraidon's Dragon STAB while failing to OHKO a Tera'd one in return while Miraidon resists its Dual STAB and OHKOs with Electro Drift or 2HKOs with Specs Draco. Both dragons have ways to partner with it without being significantly encumbered in the match-up themselves.
Miraidon in particular is a Special Breaker/Sweeper that doesn't get stopped by Ho-oh as a common Offensive SpD option we had in the past and the Double Dance set can even set up on it if it doesn't carry Earthquake, able to switch-in and eat 2-3 hits to grab 2 boosts or threatening a 2HKO with Parabolic. Turning what would otherwise be the tier's best Specially Tanky option not only into an entry point but set-up fodder is going to do wonders for this thing, while Ho-oh's Physical Breaking and targets checked does it massive favors as a teammate.
Zacian-C is the reason I put ditto on literally every team I build. It has the single dumbest interaction in the game with the way it does stuff with intrepid sword.This is probably the one time I am so fucking excited to see Ho oh because Flutter Mane and Zacian Crowned is making me lose my fucking mind.
If by OTR you mean offensive trick room, you literally just said it yourself. The tier is filled with fast attackers that are on a slugfest. Calyrex has the bulk to take a hit, tera if necessary, and completely turn the tables. In fact, it is a sticky web team's worst nightmare because if it sets up in front of Zacian, it will probably single handedly destroy sticky web team. Also, ice is such a strong stab because the only one that naturally resists it that isn't hot garbage is Kyogre. Zacian also counts but it dies to high horsepower. In fact, you'll even find that often times, the best check to Calyrex is literally itself. It just becomes which one kills the other firstOn a different note, I am a noted believer in OTR Calyrex-Ice, but could someone actually good at the game explain to me why it's so good? Like I know it's good, I've won games with it, but I don't know exactly why other than it's bulky and Trick Room fucks with fast threats.
In my experience, the only teamstyle that doesn't instantly fold to a well timed caly-ice is hard stall because of donbozo. I assume that style isn't very good atm but I have lost games to it because I got off on the wrong footIf by OTR you mean offensive trick room, you literally just said it yourself. The tier is filled with fast attackers that are on a slugfest. Calyrex has the bulk to take a hit, tera if necessary, and completely turn the tables. In fact, it is a sticky web team's worst nightmare because if it sets up in front of Zacian, it will probably single handedly destroy sticky web team. Also, ice is such a strong stab because the only one that naturally resists it that isn't hot garbage is Kyogre. Zacian also counts but it dies to high horsepower. In fact, you'll even find that often times, the best check to Calyrex is literally itself. It just becomes which one kills the other first
+1 252 Atk Tera Electric Kyurem-Black Fusion Bolt vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Necrozma-Dusk-Mane: 183-216 (45.9 - 54.2%) -- 5.1% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
Yeah, I think it'll suck. Kyurem might be worth something given it can go scale shot and icicle spear with loaded dice but being weak to Necrozma really sucks
The keyword being "could" because Kyurem's an ice type which means it dies to Necrozma's stab. If Kyurem does get used, it'll probably be a tera hog like Zacian not to mention you have to tera as soon as you can because if it's using loaded dice, it's not using boots which means hazards kill it which gets worse because Necrozma gets stealth rock+1 252 Atk Tera Electric Kyurem-Black Fusion Bolt vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Necrozma-Dusk-Mane: 183-216 (45.9 - 54.2%) -- 5.1% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
Nah man, this could actually be pretty cool (yeah i'm so funny) if used correctly, assuming it keeps ddance ofc, otherwise it's an unmon. Unlike Zekrom, this thing can plow through Gliscor, Groudon, and Groundceus. It's also a bit faster and MUCH stronger than Zek which could make a difference.
Actually Hitoshi Ariga, the designer for Flutter Mane, his favorite Pokémon is Misdreavus, but according to James Turner, designers don’t choose the moves and stats of Pokémon, so Flutter Mane’s movepool is probably based on Mismagius/Misdreavus, both of which have really good Moves, only held back by stats.down by Ho oh. Then I realized this thing get sfucking power gem. What? What the fuck is this pokemon? Why the fuck does it get all three of mystical fire, psyshock, and power gem, in addition to shadow ball and moonblast? Seriously, someone at Gamefreak must really be a Misdraevus simp
Fuck it I'll do this for ubers too, but it'll be a top 5.As a final topic for this thread, I'll go ahead and suggest doing your personal "Top 10" for the DLC1 meta. Have fun, be kind to each other, and have a nice day.
It appears Ho-Oh lost Defog, Toxic and Thunder Wave. That means Giratina-O will remain the premier defogger of the tier
hooh apparently lost roost too but it kept recover at least. losing twave is big tho, defog is like whateverIt appears Ho-Oh lost Defog, Toxic and Thunder Wave. That means Giratina-O will remain the premier defogger of the tier
I'd much rather use ho-oh to defog on offense because it has u-turn. This sucks, game freak has a hazard fetish this gen I guesshooh apparently lost roost too but it kept recover at least. losing twave is big tho, defog is like whatever
it does not have turnI'd much rather use ho-oh to defog on offense because it has u-turn. This sucks, game freak has a hazard fetish this gen I guess
I swear to god I remember it having u-turn what the fuck. This is the second time I've gaslit myself into thinking a pokemon has a move that it never hadit does not have turn
At least it gained access to Body Slam this time around, which is decent chip and the chance to parahax. We'll see how much opportunity cost holds it back.It appears Ho-Oh lost Defog, Toxic and Thunder Wave. That means Giratina-O will remain the premier defogger of the tier
hooh wont use body slam.At least it gained access to Body Slam this time around, which is decent chip and the chance to parahax. We'll see how much opportunity cost holds it back.