Toxic Spikes does make it useful for people with Guts to get their ass in and sweep. Loom also no longer needs to wait one turn for Toxic Orb to activate. ._.
Payback got a nerf as well. It no longer has double damage on a switch-in. I'd run Gyro Ball from there on. Even then, Gyro Ball would do more damage than a Payback, and hits other Pokemon for more damage. Since Rotom-A is no longer a Ghost, there's no harm in using Gyro Ball instead of Payback.You have never ever played with forretress ever have you
It's called payback
LOL once Jellicent burns Forry with WoW or Boiling Water, Payback's not gonna do shit to it. And it can recover in Forry's face. Besides, why would you leave it in on Jellicent anyway?the most common spin-blocker, burungel, is resistant to gyro ball and weak to payback. so there.
Pointless. Magic Coat also reflects Toxic.Magic Coats buff has made Toxic Spikes rather unviable.
I stopped reading right there.For the purposes of teambuilding, here is a list of "OU pokemon" (PO wifi usage list)
Then why don't you do the rest of us a favor and compile a list yourself.PO tiers are not the next best thing; they suck.
Starmie sucks? Since when?Starmie sucks; it's sad I have to defend this