pelipper
Just asking out of curiosity, how much did Mega Metagross define OU as a whole, like throughout the whole gen? It was broken for sure and definitely affected the meta while it was around, but has it had any lasting effects on the tier since the ban? It's been a couple years now and aside from less Mega Scizor usage I don't know what other effects are notable.Honestly Pelipper is laughable here. Mega Metagross was so good it was broken, only after being a top 3 pokemon for the whole beginning stretch of the generation. Pelipper was never even consistently regarded as an A rank pokemon. Rain has improved from cheese to somewhat commonplace, but it’s still not anywhere close to the top 10, and this is coming from a guy who has played lots of rain over the course of the generation.
Vote goes to Mega Metagross for sure.
Mega Metagross being banned immediately opened up a great increase in Celesteela/other steel type usage (and also Magearna in particular, but one could argue the SG sets would've eventually become prevalent anyway seeing as the following WCOP it was basically broken itself). While it was in the tier for a limited time, the entire opening stretch of SM was loosely defined by it and the moves it ran/strategies it was a part of (i.e: TPunch+ETerrain totally shifted counterplay to it). It was consistently a top 3 Pokemon in the metagame and while it was there for a limited time, we are not arguing for it to be top 3, but rather #8. On the contrary, Pelipper has never even been A rank and yet people want it to be top 10 titans of all time, when Rain was widely regarded as just cheese for the first year and change of the metagame? It's really not even close imoJust asking out of curiosity, how much did Mega Metagross define OU as a whole, like throughout the whole gen? It was broken for sure and definitely affected the meta while it was around, but has it had any lasting effects on the tier since the ban? It's been a couple years now and aside from less Mega Scizor usage I don't know what other effects are notable.