Tournaments SPL XII ADV Discussion Thread

[Hiro']

Had no power during 4 days and still got finals this week, i'll try to commentate more when it's all over, sorry!
Week 6 pairings:

• [RAI] Altina vs. umbry [CRY]
• [SHA] watermess vs. Gilbert arenas [TYR]
• [WOL] Star vs. Golden Sun [TIG]
• [RUI] Teclis vs. McMeghan [BIG]
• [CLA] Tamahome vs. thelinearcurve [SCO]

Week 5 Usage Stats

Moves + Teammates / Common Leads / Common Lineups

+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| Rank | Pokemon            | Use  | Usage % |  Win %  |
+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| 1    | Tyranitar          |    7 |  70.00% |  42.86% |
| 2    | Celebi             |    5 |  50.00% |  60.00% |
| 2    | Zapdos             |    5 |  50.00% |  60.00% |
| 4    | Claydol            |    4 |  40.00% |  50.00% |
| 4    | Swampert           |    4 |  40.00% |  25.00% |
| 6    | Suicune            |    3 |  30.00% | 100.00% |
| 6    | Metagross          |    3 |  30.00% |  66.67% |
| 6    | Skarmory           |    3 |  30.00% |  66.67% |
| 6    | Jirachi            |    3 |  30.00% |  66.67% |
| 6    | Salamence          |    3 |  30.00% |  33.33% |
| 6    | Blissey            |    3 |  30.00% |  33.33% |
| 12   | Gengar             |    2 |  20.00% |  50.00% |
| 12   | Dugtrio            |    2 |  20.00% |  50.00% |
| 12   | Milotic            |    2 |  20.00% |   0.00% |
| 15   | Snorlax            |    1 |  10.00% | 100.00% |
| 15   | Charizard          |    1 |  10.00% | 100.00% |
| 15   | Jynx               |    1 |  10.00% | 100.00% |
| 15   | Kingdra            |    1 |  10.00% | 100.00% |
| 15   | Medicham           |    1 |  10.00% |   0.00% |
| 15   | Forretress         |    1 |  10.00% |   0.00% |
| 15   | Venusaur           |    1 |  10.00% |   0.00% |
| 15   | Aerodactyl         |    1 |  10.00% |   0.00% |
| 15   | Cloyster           |    1 |  10.00% |   0.00% |
| 15   | Raikou             |    1 |  10.00% |   0.00% |

 

[Siglut]

Altina vs Umbry is probably my favorite game of the season so far. Not too short, interesting teams, and a wonderful endgame. Very well played to both.

 

[Hiro']

Week 7 pairings are up! I'm gonna try to make some predictions later in the week but feel free to make yours too!

• [RAI] Altina vs. Star [WOL]
• [RUI] Hclat vs. watermess [SHA]
• [CLA] Tamahome vs. umbry [CRY]
• [SCO] thelinearcurve vs. Gilbert arenas [TYR]
• [BIG] McMeghan vs. Golden Sun [TIG]

Week 6 Usage Stats

Moves + Teammates / Common Leads / Common Lineups

+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| Rank | Pokemon            | Use  | Usage % |  Win %  |
+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| 1    | Tyranitar          |    7 |  70.00% |  42.86% |
| 2    | Celebi             |    5 |  50.00% |  60.00% |
| 3    | Metagross          |    4 |  40.00% |  75.00% |
| 3    | Swampert           |    4 |  40.00% |  75.00% |
| 3    | Forretress         |    4 |  40.00% |  25.00% |
| 3    | Salamence          |    4 |  40.00% |  25.00% |
| 7    | Zapdos             |    3 |  30.00% | 100.00% |
| 7    | Jirachi            |    3 |  30.00% |  33.33% |
| 7    | Skarmory           |    3 |  30.00% |  33.33% |
| 10   | Breloom            |    2 |  20.00% | 100.00% |
| 10   | Suicune            |    2 |  20.00% | 100.00% |
| 10   | Aerodactyl         |    2 |  20.00% |  50.00% |
| 10   | Magneton           |    2 |  20.00% |  50.00% |
| 10   | Gengar             |    2 |  20.00% |  50.00% |
| 10   | Blissey            |    2 |  20.00% |   0.00% |
| 10   | Hariyama           |    2 |  20.00% |   0.00% |
| 17   | Charizard          |    1 |  10.00% | 100.00% |
| 17   | Claydol            |    1 |  10.00% | 100.00% |
| 17   | Moltres            |    1 |  10.00% | 100.00% |
| 17   | Porygon2           |    1 |  10.00% | 100.00% |
| 17   | Milotic            |    1 |  10.00% |   0.00% |
| 17   | Starmie            |    1 |  10.00% |   0.00% |
| 17   | Dugtrio            |    1 |  10.00% |   0.00% |
| 17   | Steelix            |    1 |  10.00% |   0.00% |
| 17   | Gyarados           |    1 |  10.00% |   0.00% |

 

[Gilbert arenas]

Personal HLS:

+DUG

 

[watermess]

Thoughts on that Flareon? The best I can think of is okay spdef, learns shadow ball. toxic maybe? I am not sure what else it would be running.

mega late reply but, its the only true gengar wisp absorber in the tier that has recovery, thats its niche i guess, like if you compare with other gengar switch ins
blissey - struggles vs wisp taunt with spikes and sand up
celebi - struggles with all gar with spikes up
suit tar - sometimes struggles to reliably trap grass gar, certainly struggles to consistenly fully remove spdef wisp gars and struggles massively with giga drain bulky gar
umbreon - wisp is neutral bad for both thanks to syncronise, however if you thought taking wisp on wish tect rachi is bad, umbreon takes sand chip as well! essentially because ur suit wont ohko gar, and spikes are almost certainly up till you trap it, you are gonna probably need heal bell with this.
suit meta - can run lum berry, doesnt always, also doesnt kill gar with suit ever which means its certainly more of a gar chipper
houndoom - absorbs wisp, ohkos with suit often, but is also much more frail than many suiters, even with large amounts of investment, spikes + tbolt is alot to come in on
jirachi - wish tect rachi walls gar sure, but it really really does not want to take that burn as its retaliation is a pitiful small chip with uninvested non stab neutral fire punch

this brings us to flareon which actually offers a niche none of those do, immunity to wisp with reliably recovery and checking, pretty groovy if i do say so myself, theres a reason why flareon doesnt get used much tho, it certainly has many shortcomings dont be decived, outside of being extra solid vs moltres, mixmence and gengar there isnt much reason to use it over a different spdef option.

hope that helps :3

 

[Dizno]

Actually I have no comment about this season and no time to waste with this anymore, please refer to the official threads for updated usage stats and replays.

what do you really have to do any more anyway. Isn't there 1 game left?