(request) DELETE SMOGON NOW [decision pending]

https://community.pokemon.com/en-us...ever-walked-under-the-heavens-ask-me-anything
this is still live and still a problem. [BANNED SHITHEAD] keeps posting his doxxing rmt and linking his discord. Can someone with an account over there please report some of his later messages and / or try to communicate to the staff there how big of a problem this thing is?
I added a report on there, but realistically I don't think the mods will take much action if they're approving the links in the first place and the mods have been light on removing external links (depending on the mod, maybe Mod_Pandaroo would be receptive), and there have been no bans since July* even for people like FlyPupKai who get a locked thread. On the other hand, nobody in the thread agrees with him and you have to read through most of the pages to even see his links again, so I think the best option is just for the thread to die out naturally. Overall it seems like the small regular userbase of the official pokemon.com forums generally don't know or care about him enough to take it seriously, so it just makes him seem foolish to anyone reading without context.

I think the new champion of the forums UnovanZorua sums it up best:
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I did notice that there were these blanked out messages with no edited marker, which might be a unique censoring method.
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*So I just found out that Mod_Champion got banned, and they were last active as most recently as last month on March 30th. This is very strange and raises many questions. Is there conflict in the mod ranks? Was Mod_Champion corrupt? Did a mod account get compromised? Do mods get banned if they have to retire?
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The last mod edit by "Mod_Champeon" would be for keeping language friendly on the Pokemon forums.
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I found this out from the "Lavos Copypasta 2019" thread where an imgur post with cursing appears to have been removed last year.
https://community.pokemon.com/en-us/discussion/6900/lavos-copypasta-2019
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In more positive mod news, the story of the forums gym challenge has begun and Mod_Bee loves the start of it:
https://community.pokemon.com/en-us/discussion/10813/forums-gym-challenge-story
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Ravenclawed1234 settled for the role of 2nd gym leader, while Josiah2580 gave up his guaranteed gym position to become a villain instead.
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Overall I feel like the community has been pretty good at self-regulating even without mods taking direct action like before, as seen in the collective shunning response to a thread about feet which would probably fit in and be deleted back in July:
https://community.pokemon.com/en-us...that-every-game-should-have-a-barefoot-option
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Nowadays the forum is mostly just brackets, though this was just a well timed screenshot and there are other occasional random topics that pop up as well, but clasingla is definitely one of the most prevalent posters and thread creators with multiple regular series. Meanwhile, TPCi_GarbageKing hasn't posted a new raid event since Luvdisc.
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I haven't highlighted it much but clasingla's posting power has been growing steadily, accumulating 1190 posts in only 3 months of joining since January 18, 2024. I think this pace surpasses any of the top posters on Smogon but the meta is just different there.
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This is also where I learned people are actually using the wall feature aside from that time in July when people were commenting on mod walls. I don't actually think you get notifications for these comments from what I remember.
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A minor and major update with the Pokemon forums:
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A recent change noticeable in the images of my last posts is that all posts now have a 3-dot icon in the top right. Previously this menu had the edit posts option in the past, but it brings up an empty menu now even on your own posts.
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https://community.pokemon.com/en-us/discussion/10932/did-anyone-else-get-the-forum-feedback-quiz/p1
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Apparently there is a survey for feedback being deployed on the forums today. I got it when going to page 2 but accidentally closed the window while trying to take a screenshot, but fortunately clearing my cookies worked to make the survey appear again, though incognito mode didn't. Either way, I can show you the full details of what Pokemon.com is looking for to help develop the forums further. It doesn't seem like this link is unique or account-specific as I got it right after being logged out, and they don't want to identify you anyway, so I will post it here, but I will also detail what the survey asks here as well.

https://pokemonintl.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_cSeR3ep2VExOD4i?Q_CHL=si

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Page 1 shows this is a TPCi operation and is specifically about the Pokemon Community Forums, which I guess is their proper title.

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Page 2 asks for your age in from 10-12, 13-15, 16-20, and then in increments of 10 up to 60. Note there is no back button.

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Page 3 asks for gender identity with multiple selections allowed.

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Page 4 starts off by asking how you found the forums. Now technically I found the forums due to Pokemon Unite using them to post their patch notes in English officially for the first time, which was linked on Twitter in December 2022.

Fun fact: Screenshots from that time show that the default avatar wasn't always a Poke Ball and is probably some vanilla forums default avatar. And these were actually the latest topics at the time in December 2022.
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But I think they're referring to the specific ingame link to the forums in Unite, so I decided to just go with "Social Media", though I feel like that refers more to people discovering the forums from when it blew up last year. I guess arguably it's closer to Pokemon.com because it's from an official Pokemon account and they have links on there too. And I've been seeing the forums and its threads come up a lot lately when searching as well, but overall I have to say social media.

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Page 5 asks what brought you to the Pokemon Community Forums today. As mentioned I originally came to read patch notes, but now I guess I technically browse topics for the sake of it more than anything else as most lurkers would, though most of the regulars probably fall under connecting with other fans. I imagine the TCG Live audience still mainly uses this to report bugs. As noted earlier, TPCi_GarbageKing has been late on posting about events since the Luvdisc raid event. We also have the first Other/open-ended option here.

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Page 6 asks if you accomplished what you came for, and I did though I only saw the one thread about this survey before doing that instead.

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Page 7 is a 1-5 scale question with all the options ranked relatively to the word easy. Personally I find it pretty easy to read new topics thanks to there being a page that shows all recent topics across the forum, though if I didn't know then it would be kind of tedious to open all the subforums with no previews.

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Page 8 asks if you have an account.

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Page 9 asks which topics you are interested in viewing in the forums, though by topic they actually mean the main subforums. You can select multiple options here. I imagine most people are here for either Pokemon General, Unite, or TCG Live.

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Page 10 asks about your favorite features of the forums, with multiple selection allowed but being asked to select 3 (you can select more than 3 but I don't know if it lets you progress or they just invalidate your response). Personally I have to say choosing an avatar is a main pro, even with the limited selection it makes people more recognizable thanks to the brand. Adding reactions and earning badges is something that Smogon users can relate to as well, but in terms of helpful features I have to say bookmarking/following threads is pretty useful to get notifications. There is a setting to turn on notifications for all threads you posted in, but this doesn't seem to trigger anymore if your post was manually approved. Following categories on the other hand is pretty pointless as it's basically just following a subforum. And you can't really message other forum members like in PMs unless you mean on their activity page, which is something I have not explored much.

EDIT (2024/05/09): I got a notification for a thread my post waited to get approved in so I guess they fixed it.

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Page 11 is where it gets interesting with the survey asking which features you would like to see come. Personally I think official community events would be appreciated, though I don't know if the mods would handle it as well as the users have been making their own events already with brackets and stories, but I could see it being inspired by those and potentially engaging if not completely sanitized by company guidelines. I would like to see more avatar options, but those seem like they will happen eventually anyway and aren't make or break for me. Customizing displayed topics doesn't seem totally necessary to me right now. More ways to earn points and badges is an interesting proposal, with the current system being mostly Vanilla Forums defaults, so the mods would have to come up with something original like the community events or just add in unused reactions like Promote or Awesome. I think a new subforum for Help and Feedback would be most useful since most people use the News and Articles forum for forum feedback and requests which is the closest thing to a meta. And there's an Other option, which some used to ask for editing back. Overall I think this is a good sign that TPCi is considering positive changes to the forums for once after almost a year since it went mainstream.

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Page 12 asks what you enjoy most about the Community Forums. I wouldn't say they're a go-to place for the latest Pokemon news as is, nor are they particularly insightful for strategy, but they are alright at serving their purpose of being a general community forum and also providing patch notes for specific games, so I expect those to be the main answers.

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Page 13 has some more traditional 5-point Likert scale style questions, asking if the forums are relevant, active, visually appealing, easy to use, and intimidating.

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Page 14 asks how you typically engage with Pokemon in terms of aspects of the franchise, coming back to demographics.

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Page 15 asks how likely you are to recommend the forums to a friend or family member. This is a tough question because on one hand I'm personally fine with the site itself, but in terms of recommending it to other people it wouldn't be first on my list of Pokemon forums, and I probably would not ask a family member to sign up to one anytime soon.

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That is where the survey ends, with a picture of a delivery Pikachu. I will provide further updates if any of these changes come to pass in the near future.
 
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Short update on recent mod activity on the official Pokemon Community Forums:
https://community.pokemon.com/en-us/discussion/11063/imagine-giving-these-rewards-for-milestones
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User Zhula infamous for complaining about the TCG and calling things "cringe" made a thread. NoahLaprasForum proceeded to ping multiple moderators to close the thread and the thread was actually locked. It seems like more power is being put in the hands of the people, similar to the FlyPupKai incident in the "exposing cheaters" thread, but even in that case a mod independently made the decision to close it with an official message. You can also see the OP was edited which only mods can do as well.

https://community.pokemon.com/en-us/discussion/8515/exposing-cheaters-and-exploiters/p7
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I also want to point out that last month, a mod actually responded to one of these complaint posts in a thankful manner instead. So do the mods want this kind of feedback or not?
https://community.pokemon.com/en-us/discussion/10705/the-avatars-and-emotes-are-beyond-cringe
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In response to the recent locking, Zhula made a meta thread which has not been locked yet.
https://community.pokemon.com/en-us...tag-mods-and-ask-for-a-thread-to-be-closed/p1

Some highlights:
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Note: A TechHog post seems to be deleted as another instance of mod action. I saw it at the time, and from my memory and paraphrasing it was basically saying "the mods just don't like you" or something along those lines.

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UnovanZorua confirms the fact that mods don't seem to respond to private reports and implicitly refers to the AMA responses posted via imgur.

In other news, one of the mainline game brackets has concluded. The finals pit Pokemon Emerald against Pokemon Y, and Y won with 6 votes to Emerald's 1 as the best mainline game as voted by the Pokemon Community Forums.
https://community.pokemon.com/en-us/discussion/11126/mainline-game-bracket-finals

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In related news, there is an official bracket archive now for all bracket/voting related threads.
https://community.pokemon.com/en-us/discussion/11044/bracket-archive/p1

pokemon_fusion seems to be advertising on the forums as well much like pokemonfusion did in another thread on Smogon with an AI generated response based off responses in the thread. However they are actually linking to a knockoff site and not the actual developers.
Hey everyone,

The discussion about the strongest Champion in the Pokémon series is always an intriguing one. I think it's fascinating how each player's perception of strength can vary based on their experiences and interpretations of the lore.

Regarding Red, while there's certainly a mystique surrounding him as the iconic Trainer from the original games, I agree with the sentiment that his strength is more of a vibe or a perception rather than something quantifiable. Each Champion brings their own unique strengths and challenges to the table, making it difficult to definitively crown one as the strongest.

That being said, it's undeniable that Red holds a special place in the hearts of many Pokémon [hyperlink redacted] fans, myself included. His appearance atop Mt. Silver in Pokémon Gold and Silver was a memorable and challenging encounter, symbolizing the ultimate test for Trainers on their journey.

Speaking of memorable boss fights, I'd like to share an article I wrote on the best and worst boss fights in Pokémon. In it, I delve into some of the most iconic battles in the series and discuss what makes them stand out. Feel free to check it out for some nostalgic reflections and insights into the Pokémon gaming experience: [redacted]

Looking forward to hearing more thoughts on this topic!

Their approach on the official forums was much more subdued without explicit advertising, but I believe these are closely related. There hasn't been reason for mods to take this down other than discussing an unofficial fangame though.
https://community.pokemon.com/en-us/discussion/9551/pokemon-infinite-fusions-game
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Looking at mod actions in general, Mod_Skrilla removed an external link recently about a PMD personality quiz.
https://community.pokemon.com/en-us/discussion/11119/pokemon-forums-mystery-dungeon-quiz/p3
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Mod_Pandaroo removed a link to Wikipedia:
https://community.pokemon.com/en-us/discussion/11018/what-animal-is-arceus
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I assume these were imgur or some other image host that was removed:
https://community.pokemon.com/en-us/discussion/2497/weakness-not-applying
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There is one instance of a non-destructive act from Mod_Pandaroo, and that is editing someone's post to unbold it.
https://community.pokemon.com/en-us...-on-how-sv-spoilers-could-be-added-to-masters
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However, they did not fix it the second time:
https://community.pokemon.com/en-us/discussion/9309/what-do-you-think-is-the-coolest-pokemon
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In general it seems like Pandaroo is an OG TCG mod from 2022, very strict on not posting any images at all. Times have changed though and the efforts ring hollow when the whole AMA thread is still up untouched.
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Overall I have to say moderation quality is still rather flaky especially for a presumably paid position, and the potential for a post complaining about the game to be locked based on a user's opinion that they should stop posting sets a particularly poor precedent, when the majority of other threads avoid being locked otherwise. The fact that a thread complaining about moderator decisions is left up is more consistent to the mods' previous acts of noninvolvement. There is a clear lack of communication and inconsistent standards being set despite every forum having the Rules and Guidelines pinned. Personally I like the novelty that unofficial products and prototype mons can be discussed on an official site, but it clearly is against the defined rules yet with no punishments being enforced.

It does not seem like any updates from the survey have been put into place yet. I will update when I am aware of any changes.

  The mods are fickle beasts.  Sometimes they will leave a thread up for days or weeks when it has long since descended into squabbling and insult throwing, sometimes they lock it down right away.  Sometimes they will ignore thread after thread requesting the same thing, only to respond to the latest one requesting the same thing in the first reply.  Sometimes you make long, considered posts about things and never hear a peep, only for someone to call something cringe and get an immediate response.  There are probably reasons behind the scenes for this apparently erratic behaviour.  Perhaps certain policies prevent them responding to some threads and users but not others.  Perhaps policies change and where as an older, longer thread with greater user participation had been ignored, they can respond to the first new thread immediately under the new policy.  Or maybe it just depends on the luck of the draw. You just have to get the right mod to see your post at the right time, be on the right mood and able to respond under their own policies and rules.  I doubt we will get any insight into any of this, unless some mod feels inclined to elucidate.
 
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the entire pokemon forum is direct proof that anyone under the age of 13 should not be allowed to put things on the internet.

Is there even a minimum age on the pokemon forum?
Technically the forums are tied to Pokemon.com Trainer Club accounts, which I assume you can sign up for at any age with your parent's permission since the VGC Juniors division exists. The bottom of every Pokemon.com page shows that TPCI has been COPPA certified since 2018, so you might have to be 13 for the forums specifically, but I cannot confirm if this is the case, and it might also fall under parent consent if you already have a Pokemon.com account anyway. The survey from earlier does have a 10-12 option so it's probably expected on some level.

BREAKING NEWS: The 3 dots icon on posts has been updated to include a circle and making the dots smaller. There is no added functionality to the menu.

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In other news, there is a new notice about TCG Live bugs and people are very mad. The original TCG Live bug community is truly back with a vengeance.
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https://community.pokemon.com/en-us...back-many-bug-live-cannot-battle-stuck#latest
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https://community.pokemon.com/en-us/discussion/11240/before-reporting-bugs#latest
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(Note: Blown_Up_Burmy has 6 abuse reacts. It takes 5 spams to remove a post/send to the spam queue, 5 abuses to send to moderator review, and 10 abuses to remove the post.)

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https://community.pokemon.com/en-us/discussion/11225/game-bugging-at-coin-flip#latest
It seems like Burmy's posts in another thread got deleted with some replies still remaining.

And a thread from yesterday has already reached page 5:
https://community.pokemon.com/en-us/discussion/11223/matches-not-starting#latest
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NOTE: As it turns out, Blown_Up_Burmy's account was actually banned and completely purged, happening in the middle of me writing this post between opening up the first thread and the second one where his toxic posts appeared to be deleted. All his posts have been deleted now, and I only managed to screenshot the only evidence of their existence in the seconds before he was taken down. This is a shocking intervention by the moderators, and I have to give them props for this power move reminiscent of last year. This goes to show what the new standard of what it takes to get the mods to act in the Pokemon Community Forums of today.
https://community.pokemon.com/en-us/profile/comments/Blown_Up_Burmy
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Update: Google has still cached a thread title that he made and that was also deleted in the purging, titled "TPCi Sucks. Please DO YOUR JOB!!! (Coin Flip Bug Unresolved)", along with one chiding reply. It seems that Burmy had accused someone of bribing TPCi at this point.
https://community.pokemon.com/en-us...s-please-do-your-job-coin-flip-bug-unresolved
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Also, in case an official forum moderator is looking for feedback, I have a complaint about the notification system. In the menu it groups together multiple comments in the same topic unlike Smogon. This is because in the list of all notifications you get a notification for every individual post while Smogon doesn't remind you after the first unread.
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However, the issue is that it brings you to the first of the comments in the group instead of the most recent, so even though there was a new comment made half an hour ago, it still groups it in with old notifications and so I get jumped to a page before the newest post, because the notification link + avatar is based on UnovanZorua's April 28 post rather than clasingla's 6:55 PM post.
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Update: clasingla's profile has a new field saying "I like Pokemon". I don't know how this exists as I don't have it so it might be a rank 4 privilege. They posted a status update saying the same thing which I tried as well. Status updates seem to always require approval. There is a delete button on them that I haven't tried clicking. An interesting note is that these status posts can be reacted to unlike Smogon. They may not count to reaction score like PMs though since they don't seem to appear in the individual reaction count or comments list.
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Before updating on TCG stuff, I will take the advice of the 100 LOLs badge and look at some more lighthearted content.
https://community.pokemon.com/en-us/discussion/9748/joke/p4
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https://community.pokemon.com/en-us...on-unite-my-kids-play-the-game-and-we-hear-pe
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Actually this is sad.

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https://community.pokemon.com/en-us/discussion/11056/which-country-do-y-all-live-in/p1

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It would turn out this thread was not as benevolent as expected.

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It turns out that Pokemaster9293 managed to make a profit based on a bet on the intelligence of Pokemon forums users. This is probably the most successful thing anyone has ever leveraged it for.

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The TCG live drama has been heating up in the last few days, starting off with Mod_Skrilla making an acknowledgment in the big thread:
https://community.pokemon.com/en-us/discussion/11223/matches-not-starting/p6
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(Pokemon GO is actually the buggiest app game of the year.)
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There is a divide between the complainers and the dev defenders, which is just JazzyUnicornGir:
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Some people work on creating their own solutions:
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Others have not had success:
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clasingla joins the pro-dev side:
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DoubleCure returned to the forums to post that the devs fixed it apparently. No one else posted about the bug after this so I assume they all went back to TCG Live.

There is still some fallout in other threads though.
https://community.pokemon.com/en-us/discussion/11283/can-you-just-fix-it-now#latest
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I think someone with anger issues of their own should note that telling people to calm down may not be very effective when they just want to use the forum to vent.

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My favourite is this thread that became a debate about how software development works with everyone putting their credentials on the table.
https://community.pokemon.com/en-us/discussion/11268/why-is-tcglive-so-bad
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The TCG live players even turn on each other:
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This is how I learned that there's an option to show your email publicly on the Pokemon Forums, which I will not be showing.

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Ravenclawed1234 is on team clasingla/taking programming courses in school.


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Even blatant virus links are being allowed on the forums in the wake of the TCG issues, connected to the private server spammers. I suspect this will be deleted soon and I will not link it directly, but the file is a suspiciously named exe.

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For science I actually downloaded this (do not open). We can see that this was an AHK/autohotkey file with its icon. Hill-98 is confirmed to be one of the private server hosters and is connected to its GitHub repository. I still have no idea who actually cares about these or uses them other than the spammers on the official forums but it goes even deeper than that.

According to an anonymous issue, Hill-98 is making money off this, but when reported immediately a bunch of other accounts jumped in to accuse them of impersonation and being jealous while not denying it. It seems to me that there is a lot of inter community Chinese drama spilling over to this one dev. Now I wonder if the private server advertisers were false flags trying to get TPCi's eyes on it and take it down.
https://github.com/Hastwell/Omukade.Cheyenne/issues/7
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https://github.com/Hastwell/Omukade.Cheyenne/issues/9
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Truly the extended TCG Live community is a pageant of crimes, love, and hate. We can also blame it for being the reason these forums were created, so really I feel like TPC would be better off without it ever existing, but here we are.
EDIT: Also there was another Zhula thread. He got 8 abuse reacts so far.
https://community.pokemon.com/en-us/discussion/11265/if-you-lose-as-arc-tina
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this has become the pokemon forum thread
It always has been.

Its undoing is going to be the censorship

I tried posting about my favorite Pokemon, Porygon, the electric soldier, and they took me out back and shot me
I checked and there has actually been discussion about Electric Soldier Porygon and its ramifications on the anime in the past.
https://community.pokemon.com/en-us...lating-to-the-anime-that-hasnt-been-found-yet
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https://community.pokemon.com/en-us...ygon-z-make-proper-animation-debuts-if-at-all
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The "so someone just has to tag mods and ask for a thread to be closed" thread cooled down and devolved into meta flagging discussion, and just hours ago NoahLaprasForum has gotten away with tagging the mods and getting them to close the thread, on page 5 of all things. I still feel like this is too much power.
https://community.pokemon.com/en-us...tag-mods-and-ask-for-a-thread-to-be-closed/p3
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https://community.pokemon.com/en-us...tag-mods-and-ask-for-a-thread-to-be-closed/p4
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https://community.pokemon.com/en-us...tag-mods-and-ask-for-a-thread-to-be-closed/p5
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https://community.pokemon.com/en-us...e-on-here-less-often-during-the-summer#latest
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clasingla is retiring for the summer going on a grand tour of the world.
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Meanwhile people are talking about Smash Bros and Yokai Watch.

https://community.pokemon.com/en-us/discussion/11461/is-it-just-me-or-is-the-summer-fun-event#latest
On the other hand, the TCG Live players hate the new first anniversary event.
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There are also some other bugs with Palafin ex that got the forums spammed again. Surprisingly despite all the hate and complaints for not being able to connect to the game last month, none of those people ever came back to the thread to report that the devs put out an emergency hotfix on Twitter or thanked the devs for fixing it. The whole incident seems similar to PS going down with similar reactions.
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https://community.pokemon.com/en-us/discussion/11463/is-this-the-kind-of-players-you-endorse#latest
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Another instance of swearing getting through the filter.

Looking through the recent discussions, the pokemon forums actually got serious with its first depressive venting thread, but everyone was actually pretty supportive.
https://community.pokemon.com/en-us/discussion/11419/i-dont-want-to-care-anymore#latest
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BREAKING NEWS: The QUOTE button has returned. Although you could just copy paste a message URL to quote it anyway as someone points out, but still we are regaining features and it seems like quotes are not being approval queued again based on the speed of posts in the new thread.
https://community.pokemon.com/en-us/discussion/11487/quote-option-is-back#latest
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Despite the existence of the "Quote Folding" setting as one of the only settings on the site, it doesn't seem to allow displaying quotes in quotes regardless of what it's set to.

https://community.pokemon.com/en-us/discussion/11478/the-baddest-shiny-ever#latest
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It says a lot about the evolution of language that I was confused what he meant calling Regice and Gengar the baddest shinies.

https://community.pokemon.com/en-us/discussion/11474/friendly-forums/p1
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NoahLaprasForum just wants to make peace in the forums.

As a mini update, Pokemaster9293 has posted some strange threads in the past few months.
https://community.pokemon.com/en-us/discussion/11097/you-have-to-watch-this/p1
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First he tried to rick roll everyone like Josiah2580 tried once.

https://community.pokemon.com/en-us/discussion/11192/does-anyone-feel-like-this/p1
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Then somehow he managed to post a link that starts with unsafe:blob which seemed to be a failed embed of a palworld meme.

https://community.pokemon.com/en-us...gonite-since-it-s-my-main-in-pokemon-unite/p1
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Also changing his profile picture got his own thread with a bit of discourse.

https://community.pokemon.com/en-us...uy-the-nintendo-switch-2-once-it-comes-out/p1
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Most recently he made the decision to buy the Nintendo Switch 2/successor before switching to the Lite. The forums are pretty negative on the Switch Lite though.

https://community.pokemon.com/en-us/discussion/10725/what-starter-would-you-eliminate/p20
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I didn't really pay attention but this is the thread they were talking about in the mods thread that spanned over 20 pages of eating pokemon.


Lastly a fun fact is that whenever you check who's online on the main discussion page, an account from 2021 named "retoion" is always online with no activity.
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This has been noticed in the past in another thread.
https://community.pokemon.com/en-us/discussion/10977/bethann/p1
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EDIT: Also Mod_Pandaroo edited out the swear words "fucking" and "bullshit" from yesterday, that can be seen in the post above.
https://community.pokemon.com/en-us/discussion/11463/is-this-the-kind-of-players-you-endorse#latest
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After reading the last notification for the mods thread, it somehow merged into a different notification that takes me to a nonexistent/deleted comment by Zhula. Maybe it counted this as an unread post that I never got to see. It doesn't show up as an individual notification either.
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https://community.pokemon.com/en-us/discussion/comment/39932#Comment_39932

Based on the post ID, this was between https://community.pokemon.com/en-us/discussion/comment/39628#Comment_39628 and https://community.pokemon.com/en-us/discussion/comment/40348#Comment_40348. I don't know why this shows up after Ampersundae's page 4 post notification, maybe it goes based off the latest post chronologically but the earliest post for the avatar/link. The notification system on these forums is very weird even compared to XenForo not showing you any new posts until you read a thread again and choking when a post is deleted.
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A weird aspect I just noticed as well is that the returning Quote button exists in locked threads and does nothing accordingly.

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A new mod/admin Mod_Ginger is making moves on the TCG Live forums. They joined in January 2024, a relatively new acquisition compared to when the forums got exposure last year, and have made 178 visits since. So far they have made 2 comments starting from May 30th, one informative about ingame announcement text and one authoritative about closing a thread about a support ticket.

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https://community.pokemon.com/en-us/discussion/11387/summer-fun
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https://community.pokemon.com/en-us/discussion/11347/trainer-club-account#latest
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It seems like locking a discussion seems to mark the OP as edited.
 
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There has been a slow burn getting heated since last year over if certain Pokemon are actually orange or yellow, fervently looking for vindication in proof from the official creators/random people on the official pokemon forums, and recently this came to a boil with the hot topic of Greavard's candle.

For context, I will summarize the threads that got to this point:
https://community.pokemon.com/en-us/discussion/5843/pokemon-the-color-of-fuecocos-scales/p1
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https://community.pokemon.com/en-us/discussion/10765/question-about-color-on-poltchageists-swirl/p1
In this thread, Joe Pokemon arrives to answer Galam's yellow/orange related questions. I believe this is the first gimmick/dedicated troll account of the forums that I can remember which says something to how genuine the userbase is outside of the spammers.

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https://community.pokemon.com/en-us/discussion/11172/pokemon-with-orange-accents
Here we have some crowdsourcing going on:
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And now we get to the present day about Greavard's flame candle:
https://community.pokemon.com/en-us/discussion/11376/greavard-s-flame-candle/p1
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Speaking of spammers, there have been instances of some strange botlike behaviour copying the OP of a thread or referencing random countries:
https://community.pokemon.com/en-us...-feel-like-theyre-from-a-different-generation
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Ironically Askipoke might have been a bot because this was their only comment as of now.

In other news, attempts to communicate with the mods have been futile:
https://community.pokemon.com/en-us/discussion/11526/dear-mods-this-is-meant-to-you
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This page is kind of weird because it has 2 page navigations, maybe because these are all labeled as best answers, and apparently there was a phantom second page.

EDIT: Now I can't see page 2 after clicking through the #latest link, though I can still leave a comment and see what was said.
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Finally there is a new user that has been posting about PMD, so I have been trying to start a new Shiren the Wanderer posting countertrend since people want to talk about a new Mystery Dungeon game. Even if you want one made by Game Freak, Shiren 2 had Creatures Inc. employees work on it and it features a whole monster collecting system itself.
https://community.pokemon.com/en-us/discussion/11542/how-much-do-you-want-a-new-mystery-dungeon-game
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I was actually confused to what Hey_PIKMIN meant with such a visceral reaction to Spike Chunsoft's "new demographic", so I looked up their website https://www.spike-chunsoft.com/ and I guess I can see 5 reasons he might have lost faith in them at first glance if you just know them as the PMD creators.

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back at Smogon we don't have issues like the legendary hackmons issue there. Smogon is the dominant one here, leave the Official Pokemon "forum"
 
I got a post on my profile page the other day. I did not get a notification for it.
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Their only post is in the German version of the forums, which I ended up exploring as well as all the other forum languages (Spanish, Portuguese, German, French, and Italian). For reference each language is technically a different version of the forums with their own threads, but all the accounts seem to be shared anyway, but it shows your notifications in your native language.
https://community.pokemon.com/de-de/discussion/11710/pokemon-spiele#latest
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German speakers can feel free to correct me on the details but I believe this is proposing a Fortnite collaboration with Pikachu and the replier mentions Eevee.

I looked around, but those are actually the only threads in the whole German Pokemon video games subforum. So I figured this would be a good time to explore all these other languages to see how active they are, since all I know of them is that each has their own moderators.
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Conveniently on the right, we can see the number of threads for each category, with the German forums having no Unite presence at all and basically still being a pure TCG forum. It seems that the Who's Online list also carries over across languages. Note that there is a Pokemon TBD category that I will get more into later.
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https://community.pokemon.com/de-de/discussion/10644/p#latest
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I believe Frederik1000 is asking if this discussion can be deleted and Mod_Squirrel says they can't but the mods can do so and can delete it if they want. So already we're seeing better communication here than from the mods about such features, even though it took a week to reply.

Something very interesting I noticed though is that the German forums have a Pokemon Center/merch subforum in the Pokemon General category that the English ones lack, with unique art.
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https://community.pokemon.com/de-de/categories/pokemon-center-de
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There is only one thread in there, but it's still interesting. I think this guy is complaining about paying 5 euros per booster pack.
https://community.pokemon.com/de-de/discussion/6983/pokemon-booster-packs-real-life#latest
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There aren't much other threads and most are just generic TCG complaints/mod responses, so I moved on.
https://community.pokemon.com/de-de/discussion/9720/handyspiel#latest
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Next I looked at the Spanish version of the forums, starting off comparing the number of posts in each category once again.
https://community.pokemon.com/es-es/discussions
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Here we have a sizable amount of UNITE posts, more than the main game categories, and generally is more active than the German forums. I also caught a Spanish mod on camera coincidentally that I saw making some posts.
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https://community.pokemon.com/es-es...o-vuelven-a-hacer-evento-de-snom-porfa#latest

Already this is pretty impressive work, this guy is complaining about Pokemon Cafe Remix and Mod_Bumblebee actually links him to the correct support site rather than some English mods always linking to TCG Live support.

https://community.pokemon.com/es-es/discussion/11638/sobre-las-caja-license-selection-box#latest
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And here we have Mod_Roy recognizing that this issue was from a Twitch stream implicitly. I believe in this case TPCi just was giving out a limited supply of a digital code for some reason and people got very mad about it, but again the Spanish mods seem to be the most understanding of the forum mods so far.

https://community.pokemon.com/es-es/discussion/11607/soy-nueva-ayuda-padres#latest
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Another wholesome interaction where the mod actually goes out of their way to provide guides for parents to help get their kids into the card game. I have never seen an English mod link a strategy guide before. Overall I have to say these mods seem pretty responsive and active based on this sample size.

https://community.pokemon.com/es-es/discussion/11416/me-dan-consejos#latest
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One last thread where the mod welcomes someone to the forum and points them to some helpful links.

So this is where I noticed that the non-English forums had this Pokemon TBD category that wasn't just a parallel to the Play! Pokemon forums and literally just means TBD. It also has its own unique placeholder art.
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https://community.pokemon.com/es-es/discussion/6089/que-es-pokemon-tdb#latest
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The mods actually addressed this in the thread too.

You can also just make posts in the TBD forum just fine:
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https://community.pokemon.com/es-es/discussion/6452/que-es-estooo#latest
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Truly, it is a mystery what this TBD forum may be used for in the future.

https://community.pokemon.com/pt-br/discussions
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The Portuguese forums are less active than the Spanish ones but more active than the German ones.
https://community.pokemon.com/pt-br/discussion/10795/inaceitavel#latest
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This mod responded to a complaint from over a month ago about the coin toss bug in a kind of human way.

https://community.pokemon.com/pt-br/discussion/9360/melhorar-o-site#latest
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Here Mod_Bento actually engages in a conversation about the state of the Pokemon website and feedback after the thread is bumped. Overall one of the friendliest mods yet.

https://community.pokemon.com/pt-br/discussion/5946/quais-sao-seus-pokemon-preferidos#latest
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YagoFuecoco participates in one of the only instances of cross-language posting I have seen so far.

https://community.pokemon.com/fr-fr/discussions
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The French forums are fairly active as well but still behind the Spanish forums.

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Immediately I see a bunch of mod activity, though it's mostly generic TCG support. It turns out Mod_Pandaroo is actually a cross-language mod too and even he is more helpful than in the English forums.

https://community.pokemon.com/fr-fr...tion-de-pokemon-introuvable-legalement#latest
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Here this guy is asking about legally obtaining Pokemon and Mod_Pandaroo suggests Pokemon GO and the HOME gift Magearna showing they actually have some game knowledge.

https://community.pokemon.com/fr-fr...raper-chef-de-fer-si-il-fuit-le-combat#latest
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Mod_Finn provides some support in case nobody responded, which is better off than leaving them hanging I suppose.

https://community.pokemon.com/fr-fr/discussion/8868/zeraora#latest
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https://community.pokemon.com/fr-fr/discussion/8638/bug-reproduction-des-formes-regionales#latest
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This dude was like "I can't breed the regional forms" and Ghostly_Life responds with a detailed guide on using the Everstone and multiple mods applaud them.

https://community.pokemon.com/fr-fr/discussion/7327/quel-est-le-metier-du-professeur-chen#latest
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Even Mod_Pandaroo answers an important question about what Professor Oak's job is.

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https://community.pokemon.com/fr-fr...er-deux-fois-le-meme-legendaires-shiny#latest
BDSP question about transferring a shiny Mewtwo from the same game after resetting it. Mod_Life asks for clarification and gets no response. Personally I think resetting the game would be fine here but BDSP handled this weirdly.

https://community.pokemon.com/fr-fr...-sauvegarde-violet-switch-pokemon-home#latest
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This guy is asking about transferring Pokemon to HOME and starting a new game. Here the mod suggests to contact HOME support before doing anything, which feels unnecessary but I guess it is what they're paid for. So overall I think the French mods are nice enough and make an effort to make people feel heard even if they tend to suggest support more often than not.

https://community.pokemon.com/it-it/discussions
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Lastly we have the Italian forums, ahead of the German forums but behind the Portuguese forums, also with no UNITE presence.

https://community.pokemon.com/it-it/discussion/10466/che-simpaticoni#latest
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I think this is complaining about decking out and hackers/being sore losers.

https://community.pokemon.com/it-it...cellulare-scalda-troppo-e-va-in-blocco#latest
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The mods here don't seem to be replying to any general Pokemon threads and are mainly just support bots. I think this guy's phone is just breaking.

https://community.pokemon.com/it-it/discussion/11698/valore-console#latest
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I think this is a thread about trying to get a price for a 2DS, which I can't say I've seen on the English forums before.

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The rest of these are more just tech support questions/answers.

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As a final note, I made a post about my findings in the middle of this and clasingla pointed out they once saw a French user with an "Up Vote" reaction, so I went back into the depths of the French forums to track down a sighting for myself.

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https://community.pokemon.com/fr-fr/discussion/6490/encore-et-toujours-des-bugs#latest
Along the way I saw a thread with a reply by a [Deleted User]. It seems like this was once a former mod...
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I found this passionate but long thread about Team Rocket and Mod_Finn approving.
https://community.pokemon.com/fr-fr/discussion/5824/ma-passion-pour-la-team-rocket#latest
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https://community.pokemon.com/fr-fr/profile/14313/Mimirocket
On a whim I checked their profile and found out they have a Promote reaction for that thread, even though it doesn't seem visible anywhere else for regular users.
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https://community.pokemon.com/fr-fr/bestof/promote
This reminded me of how the Promote reaction works, in that you can sort by promoted posts on the Best Of page. So here are all the promoted posts on the French site:
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No other language seems to have any promoted posts. It seems like Mod_Finn is promoting these as they reply publicly as well in support.
Notably a Squirtle avatar is here which is what clasingla might have seen but I'm not sure.

https://community.pokemon.com/fr-fr...ssible-de-repondre-dans-une-discussion#latest
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Random instance of a mod acknowledging the spam filter.

https://community.pokemon.com/en-us/search?domain=members&scope=site&source=community
In an attempt to find the users I was going through the Search page and found some interesting filter results.
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Here you can see a bunch of the earliest accounts on the forum leaking a bunch of Vanilla Forums and TPCi test names, including Test Rank Timmy.
https://community.pokemon.com/en-us/profile/26/Timmy S

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The account https://community.pokemon.com/en-us/profile/89/TheParanomia has a Temporarily Unavailable custom avatar.
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You can also see a list of roles and ranks to filter by:
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Timmy is the only Guest on the site.

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I found some interesting admin account names. MagicalLeaf is relatively new. SomeDucks made a statement on some Play! Pokemon drama once.
Surprisingly the System account with ID 1 has been used to make 3 spanish posts. https://community.pokemon.com/en-us/profile/1/System
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https://community.pokemon.com/es-es/discussion/9648/migracion#latest
Apparently the discussions seem to have been manually split off from another thread and used as an OP.

Surprisingly there are only 27 Moderators compared to the 32 Administrators, though a bunch of the admins are probably just test accounts and some admins have Mod in their names.
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TPCi_OnlineSafety is a mod without the mod label.
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So far there are at least 10000 rank 1 users (as much as the search rounds to, which I find out is a flat cap later on), 59 at rank 2, 40 at Rank 3, 5 at Rank 4, and none at Rank 5 yet. In the last case the ones with no labels or posts have a private profile.

There are 24 users with the Moderator rank and 28 with the Administrator rank. Timmy S is the only one with the Test Rank.

Some forum statistics:
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This date selection UI kind of sucks because clicking anywhere pops up a calendar above the text box that only goes month by month, but you can still type in it in the background. But also clicking on To works just fine showing the calendar in the same area, so who knows. Sometimes it actually worked properly and I'm not sure why. Even keyboard navigation kept making me enter something like 2 in the year tab.

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73 users registered from 2021 to 2022, with the forum seemingly being created on March 26 2021 based on the earliest users made.

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~3700 users registered from 2022 to 2023.

Notable milestones within 2022:
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The TCG Live beta launched in Canada February 22, 2022, with the first public members joining soon afterwards. (30)

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The beta expanded to Australia and New Zealand in July 19. (822)

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The beta was available worldwide on November 15, 2022. (1800)

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The Pokemon Unite forums posted their first patch notes on December 22, 2022. (3400+279)

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About 10,000 users joined within 2023? (this is actually a search cap)

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8.1k of these were before the announcement of the forums on July 4th, though I don't think this search counts banned users.

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Actually I think this search just caps out at 10k either way, so we can hone in on this figure a little more.

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7.2k (non-banned) members registered just in July 2023 overall (after announcement).
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2.9k registered in August 2023...

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and 9.8k registered from September to the end of the year.
8100+7200+2900+9800= about 28000 non-banned members registering within 2023.

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Within 2024, 5.6k members registered from January to March and 5.3k from April to June currently for about 10900 total members in 2024 so far.

In total the official Pokemon forum has about 73 + 3700 + 28000 + 10900 = 42673 non-banned members by this count.
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We can actually get an idea of the actual total simply by checking the user ID of the latest registered account:
https://community.pokemon.com/en-us/profile/43262/JHP610

So there's a difference of 589 between my estimate and the IDs. I would say about a few dozen of those might be lost to rounding, and the rest are the banned users.
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I actually went to check and the HTTP request does provide the actual amount for each request, so we can get even more precise.

2021-2022: 73 users
2022-2023: 3659 users
January 2023-June 2023: 7867 users
July 2023 (1-31): 7377 users
August 2023: 2897 users
September-December 2023: 9823 users
January-March 2024: 5571 users
April-June (21) 2024 today: 5301 users

In total this leaves us with 42568 users, about 100 below the estimate and leaving 694 users that are probably banned compared to the latest user ID of 43262. If you got this far I hope this was worth it.
 
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i'm ngl i dont even read the posts i just come here to laugh at the existence of children
Understandable. I think today's event is pretty interesting though.

Major crisis on the Pokemon forums today. I just got on and don't know what is happening, but this report "SHELTINATOR2000: DO NOT OPEN THEIR THREADS" by TheJeffers just dropped an hour ago and I immediately opened it, expecting something much worse. Apparently they have just embedded some links that automatically log you out, though I can not confirm as I did not open these links in the same browser session. But I am basically reacting and updating this post live as I go.

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https://community.pokemon.com/en-us...ltinator2000-do-not-open-their-threads#latest
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Here is their profile page. I will not link the threads directly in case they are malicious in any other way.
https://community.pokemon.com/en-us/profile/43429/SHELTINATOR2000
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We can see that negative points show properly now, after noticing they appeared positive on FlyPupKai's profile page. Good job admins.
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(FlyPupKai's present points now for reference.)

Here are their discussions:
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It seems like SHELTINATOR2000 is displaying embedded frames of the forums themselves somehow. I noticed this was a feature before but I guess the forums are the only allowed site to be embedded.

Here in the just testing thread, you can see that there's an iframe that points to the forums signout link that Firefox conveniently blocks, but apparently other browsers may not. I don't think he can do much other than this outside of the site itself, much like that one site that logs you out of a bunch of sites by trying logout links, but better safe than sorry. Maybe if a mod gets logged out they might be spooked enough to ban him.
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The other big 123 thread is full of his comments, mostly frames that do get embedded, and some reactions.
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(links to https://www.pokemon.com/us/vulnerability-disclosure-program/)
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As a note, it seems like the default logged out time is in UTC, so these posts are treated as if they were yesterday and don't show a time. Also you don't get to see reactions but it's probably all reported.

I will report more as the situation unfolds and if SHELTINATOR2000 ultimately turns out to be legitimate or malicious. Will the mods step in?

EDIT: I just noticed that at least the logout trick is not a valid issue from the vulnerability disclosure program link, so I don't think that he will get the bounty for this one. I guess either way this could be an annoying way to post in threads so they should probably just patch out embeds like all the other features.
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EDIT: I went back to check what the rest of his frames were.

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Here we have him trying to embed ftp, joba, and "javaScraipt" links.

I also noticed that the total reaction score of a post is still technically available yet just hidden when logged out.
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EDIT: SHELTINATOR2000 has been banned and purged since at least 10:37 PM EDT of last night, according to clasingla's post reporting it. I don't think they are getting their bug bounty. Also I'm putting posts in spoilers now, thank BIG ASHLEY for the idea. Though it won't really matter as much after the next post because this is the last post on this page. Happy 200 posts!
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