Okay lets try my hand at a list with a brand new blank start from page 1.(fair warning a good chunk of this was written before my post, so read it like it's from the PAST!!!)
Eo Ut Mortus:
His first post was on page 3 after the meowmixx lynch started, and then the next post took him till the next freaking day, with no input into the day 1 lynch at all. And to add to that it took him till his fourth post to point at a person for real, which was what I initially jumped on the following day. Then he votes Gale, yada yada. Normally I'd have a problem with this, but this was really just a common theme of day 1. Till page 3 most discussion was wasted on discussing the rules and the phoenix "slip". The Meowmixx lynch literally happened over a single page worth of content, and like half of that was just me an MeowMixx's posts, Meowmixx mostly even then, if we add More Cowbell's to that we get like 3/4 I think. I'd love to lynch people based on that but if most contribute a single short comment or nothing to the day's final lynch I can't just claim it's a scum thing.
He returns the following day on his soft pushing on MC, I make my big post outing this, then he replies in an unsatisfying manner as I point out in reply to his last and 9th post in the game. To which he still hasn't replied, so I will requote the point:
Onto Eo, I mostly see your points, can't say much more, I forgave MC himself for more, but you clearly misunderstand a point I still distrust, your first quoted line doesn't question the point's validity you brought up, it questions the way you did it right after people(people being me) said to stop talking about the setup, and you kinda sneakily trying to force it back in, all innocent like. I can understand if you really thought it's helpful, the way you did it certainly wasn't
His behavior, the lukewarm way he put everything was suspicious and he failed to try to address my actual problem at all in a fairly huge post. This makes him someone I'd be willing to have a vote on at the end of the day.
The Idiotic One:
Yay 19 posts, that's more than double the stuff from Eo! He claims his neighbourhood and to be VT, stuff related to that happens and I call him out on things, go after some early points to spark some discussions and all. We agree to disagree. Now in this discussion at a point he reveals his plan of indeed trying to boycott neighbourhoods due to his belief that mafia will use it for trickery and hold all the info we don't. This at the time frustrated me to no end, alas I choose to stay silent because saying it outloud would defeat the point, as I had my own plan, which was exactly to make mafia attempt to use the neighbourhoods. Having the mafia act like mafia is a thing the village's dream come true! Making mafia act more within a limited space they might feel safer was anything but a detriment to us. But I resisted bringing it up at the time because if I spell that out mafia would just cancel any such plans in the first place, and I couldn't really think of a reason why a mafia would inherently find the neighbourhoods dangers and go that far to shut them down, so in the end I dropped discussion with TIO.
More neighbourhood rules discussion... Prefers a Meowmixx lynch over Cancerous lynch in the wifom situation because he considers Cancerous to be more of an asset, fairly standard even if I at the time disagreed. Then votes Meowmixx. Day ends, admits his agreeing with me agreeing with neighour #1 of Cancerous, was essentially him agreeing with himself. Hm I actually do not quite understand his reply to phoenix in #95, I mean it sounds like he says he sorta agrees with phoenix's neighbour who suggested phoenix was halting communication within the neighbourhood, which seems slightly hypocritical considering TIO huge previous stance on having neighbourhoods essentially demolished. But in the context I don't really see how that would work with the rest of the sentence so I'd love some clarification there from TIO.
Replies to phoenix's summary of his and celever's hood discussions, not much substance here. The he idles till the next day, with his next post explaining it. I'm okay with this because at times I also like to just wait on my posts to see if without my input the situation changes(spoiler alert, in this game it doesn't). His general points in this scenario seem generally misinformed as it was pointed out later, like suspecting MC or his reasons for dismissing the phoenix lynch, which he thinks is not even on the table anymore. Blablabla his opinion on my rssp1 push changes by his second to last post. He also pushes Eo for a behavior he himself fits as admitted by him and as I think I pointed out later, doesn't really fit Eo(def not on the list of actual problems I have with Eo) as he did albeit weakly point at MC and was on the Gale lynch at least. He also states in both his posts the mylo day how he is not gonna vote or no lynch till someone brings up a good point, or I'm seeing double, felt like he was hammering that in a bit. Brings us today where he opens with suggestions, including 3 ways to deal with our lack of info, two of which I gladly agree with, the other I really really do not, but it's something that he was okay with day 1 and I know it was on everyone's mind, including mine. I stick to my opinions that it's playing our last card and should be left when we have nothing else, not be the first thing we do on this damn day, though we are literally hitting the last day of the lynch with only 3 people having made meaningful posts till now.
So my read on TIO is kinda odd, it feels like he is acting. The way he presented his points on day 1 was just kind of, giving me this odd feeling, like half the time he says something newbie ish then reveals this grand plan, also those insincere sounding compliments to me. It's like every time I didn't like something about his day 1, that seemed scummy, he revealed it to be a ruse, and following day 1 he just ditched this newbieness I felt he had going. Again I can't grab on his lack of pointing fingers, as that is most of the game, and other than that he has 1 or 2 hypocritical moments,, which are not strong enough as one I don't quite understand, and the other seems to stem from his misunderstanding of certain events. The big question I propose to him is, why do his misunderstandings of the game state and people's points exist if as he claims he was keeping up to date on the thread trying to find stuff, there seem to be a few too many oversights for that. As for lynching him, I feel I need to come to terms with my thoughts on his playstyle and his reply to this before I can make the decision, so maybe?
More Cowbell:
Lets sum it up a bit quicker because MC has probably the most posts out of any people. A lot of his early stuff is constant silly mistakes, like unvoting meowmixx into a tie, and when questioned on it not revoting etc. Or his pushing on phoenix's claim on stuff he had no way of knowing was correct or incorrect, yada yada we skip to when I drill him on those. To which he makes another one of those sillies, and by the time we make it to the gist of my question, I can accept his explanation of it being a bad play, since he constantly made some that just don't sit right for a member of the mafia, it felt not only hard but down right self punishing to actually pull that off. This p much resolved my problems with him for day 1 and 2.
Here MC starts a vote on phoenix, mostly due to based on the little we had, phoenix was a decent enough bet, also some stuff about being eh in his hood, but that sounded like nothing concrete to me. I agreed with the bet part, mostly because it's positive whether it fails or not. Now what I never actually noticed is that MC brought up MYLO first, I completely missed that and was convinced phoenix was the first one to bring it up in the thread. I'm actually surprised no one corrected me on that, seems like nearly everyone including jalmont missed it. Then he screws up quoting posts making it even harder to do this, but the post itself is fairly standard, refuting TIO's claims, drilling rssp1 a bit, unvoting phoenix now that it's confirmed mylo. Then he votes no lynch.
Way shorter but that's because I can address most of the things about him in a few sentences, even though he has the most posts. He and phoenix who I haven't talked about yet, are in the same boat for me. There is would be self inflicted stuff about them, that makes them stick out, but then they go and do stuff that contradicts what a mafia pretending to have done that would do. At the moment I rate them the highest, which p much only means I'd not vote MC if he literally posted nothing else for the day, but I'm neither letting him get away with that, nor do I need to since he already, but that'll have to wait till later...
acidphoenix:
His first day starts simple enough, with a full claim, yay so useful! Then the whole lynch on him happens because MC's vote makes him think he missread his role PM which he till then thought said he could leave his neighbourhood. This lynch was proven to be unwarranted as it was proven to be the truth and his reaction made no sense as a scum either. Rest of the day is spent on rule discussion, his only meaningful vote was on celever which he didn't really explain and was right after the RVS. Cutting to day 2, it does get explained, as Celever dies and phoenix after a day finally posts his neighbourhood logs. Frankly I found those logs useless, and they way phoenix acted in them extremely silly, most of it didn't make much sense, and the discussion on it died of quickly.
He then votes Gale and Gale pounces on him. Gale p much pounced on everyone but Eo from those who voted him so that's not very interesting. And then the final post of his is the MYLO post. He tries defusing a possible lynch on him, not only with saying it's mylo, but that if it's not mylo we shouldn't vote because that makes it mylo next day, which is frankly wrong in my book. Screams being desperate in wanting to not get lynched, thing is this desperation as I said before just doesn't sit well with the image of a scumphoenix eliminating all his hood members to potentially attract attention to himself. Even under the assumption UTO was removed due to the likelihood of being a power role from their hood discussion, phoenix had to ok the celever kill from before, especially when he was p set on lynching at least one of his hood mates. He also put out a read list in the same post, didn't like a few of those and addressed it later.
So final thoughts I already spoiled in my MC review. I had a biiiig problem with phoenix's MYLO cries and lies, but discovering that technically MC brought it up first and while I dislike full on defensive play, phoenix's attitude doesn't make sense based on how I think a scumphoenix should act. Also at this point with the day being never ending, we either find a strong suspect or we end up massclaiming, which out weigh the statistical likelihood of being the last of his hood therefore likely mafia. Again I'd likely not vote him if he posts nothing, won't let him get away with not posting, and I'd put him slightly more suspicious than MC.
rssp1:
This should be easy. He literally posts his first non confirmation post after the meowmixx lynch is p much done, completely dodging out of all of day 1. For being fairly huge it also says nothing and most of the space is just quoted text, talking about the setup, what if meowmixx is noobtown, and questioning two of my points, one where he is completely missing the point the other where I don't get why the scenario of both being town mattered, when the point was that they want to lynch each other, and I'd in that case would prefer one over the other. Also literally no posts on day 2.
On day 3 he is pressured by MC into posting, where he makes the post I have latched onto, which is him providing the strict minimum which is an opinion on MC and the one MC is currently lynching, ignoring everyone else in game. As I stated before it feels nearly impossible to null read everyone else, some sort of bias had to have been constructed based on our posts. He then proceeds to make a few posts that are just questions. People feigning activity after being called out, by only asking questions to others is another thing I have against him, though I mostly made this clear in a later post. When called out proceeds to make excuses rather than attempt to rectify it. And when he does go over that days stuff, he asks more questions and hasn't posted since then.
He is my biggest suspect, don't need to really write a longwinded explanations of why I feel that way for once!
Steamroll:
I didn't realise he only had 5 posts... And really the first 4 give nothing. On the pro side it's fairly confirmed he is an actual idler, at least based on his fifth post he was the one called out by jalmont to post. Between that and the fact there is nothing wrong with his final post, this is the only legitimate null read I have. While a completely different case from MC and phoenix, he ends up somewhere between them for that reason, as yet again I want more posts.
LightWolf:
What?! A read on myself? Nah, I'm using this part to address all the accusations that have popped up on this page.
First on the points made by TIO. It's about time I have to make this point, again, that some may be very familiar with(looking at you MC). I do not play as MafiaWolf. Regardless of my WC, regardless of my situation, I will always think and act like a villager and not fear posting due to possible repercussions. So yes your point that I could be pretending to be this helpful villager because roles that can check it don't exist is fair, the context of it, isn't. Your accusation starts with the fact I could get away with it due to there being no investigative role, but this assumption couldn't be confirmed until the death of Cancerous(chances of there being another role besides watcher that can find mafia are close to zero). By extension the part that I could safely do this holds no water, but yes I'd indeed do this 10 times out of 10 anyways.
Your other and seemingly the focus of this, is that I'm not dead yet. This is frankly fair, I do feel I should be dead, and agree this is a WIFOM that is weighted in favour of me being bad. Point is though, the last two kills were power roles, with UTO's case there being a couple of indications of that. The mafia could have been aware Cancerous was a power role, or on the previous days my suspicions were wrong and led to misslynches, or it could be it's because my rssp1 suspicions were either correct or incorrect(I have been previously killed for both) or maybe simply mafia feared the the existence of a protective role and that they'd likely be on me. Also the question works on More Cowbell as well, he has been just as much the lifeblood of this game as me, especially at the times I was either busy or lazy, mostly lazy. I dislike that you try to pin this tail on me only because "no one else suspected me", which is not quite the grounds for suspicion(and has been used against me in the legendary Celever v LightWolf debacle), it's more of a warning sign to possibly look this player over, but then your findings focus on me when they match others.
Next onto MC's accusations. You leave out my early questioning of TIO, me being the deciding vote in the MeowMixx lynch, me being the driving force in the Gale misslynch, and seem to highly undersell how much I spent pressuring you and Eo, which were frankly a good chunk of those days. Heck where we are standing I HAVEN'T even finished, pressuring Eo. You also claim I'm acting differently and that you feel I should be finding more, which feels slightly hypocritical when you personally failed to find nearly anything different from me, most of our reads match to a T, with the possible exception of TIO. You can argue I have done less than in the past, but counter point is, I usually have way more to work with, even active people barely post, because there is so little to reply to. Too many posts discuss rules and setup, too many people post little to nothing, and I'm trying to get them to post something meaningful for once. What have I even not done to suggest I'm just trying to ride this game out on an inactivity win? Also your theory on the rssp1 lynch being bussing contradicts the riding out the wave of inactivity, though that sounded more of a guess rather than a point against me.
In the end your point falters if it's mainly about my work put into the game if they game gives so little to work with, and your own reads prove this.
Finally Eo's stuff. This is probably the most bullsilly reasoning I have seen as of yet, at least the other two have some merit. For one yes, I do not not suspect anyone, I'm not gonna drop someone off my suspect list unless there is hard facts that support it. Doesn't matter if I suspect everyone though, I can't lynch everyone. I will lynch people with a good case against them that I agree with, just like everyone else should. By that definition even if I suspect someone, if there is no case they won't get lynched. Also most importantly I spoke from everyone's view, and as it stands most people have town reads, by extension mafia have a good idea who would likely not be considered for a lynch, which supports my statement. And yes I also highly considered I could be the one to die, which is why I wanted to push as much meaningful discussion out of the mylo as possible.
Now a question to all three of you: Why now? Most of your points are not something that just happened, questioning my living, or me being not suspected is not new news, nor did I just start scumhunting day 3 for MC to make his case against me. So how come all of a sudden I'm in the top 2 of your suspect lists? Are the latter two of you just riding on the first coattail and TIO why are you just making that point now if you never trusted me. I'd love to hear some answers to these.
For now the only way these affect my reads is for Eo, who already seems to have been just jumping on it and adding silly illogical stuff to it to make his points seem more legit and not just repeats. While I have some beef with TIO's and MC's I'm counting them out as self defense bias until they respond.
Finally with my read list done, I give you: Yay we got an extension forever, NOW can we agree to use mass claiming as the damn ace in a hole when we have to make 3 successful lynches in a row and don't want to reveal a potential protective role?