Gonna take this quick opportunity to point out that imperfectluck and Walrein have both yet to post here (forgive me if they mentioned in signups that they were going to be busy in the early game. We could use input from you guys! Also I realized that if I'm voting TheGottemer to get him to speak up I should probably tag him. Now then.
Unvote (still want TheGottemer to stop in and say hi though! ^_^)
Vote THE_IRON_KENYAN
I don't particularly like any plan that involves us manipulating the Rohirrim's ability because, as you pointed out Pidge, it makes it way too easy for the mafia to start whittling down who the Rohirrim are. Not to mention that if TIK is mafia and the mafia has a bodyguard they could easily just block the kill on TIK that they know is coming and then we'd all assume that TIK is clean. Admittedly, now that I think about it in order to get any use out of the Rohirrim ability we would need to do something similar (unless the lynch somehow gets blocked), so maybe we shouldn't be worried about that.
As for Agape, since there's been some recent discussion about him apparently, it seems like he's being the typical "hyper-aggresive call everyone out on d1" NOC player, which is usually a town play. After all, discussion for the town is always good. I'm willing to believe he's clean for the time being.
I really like the point in the first few paragraphs here, and the more I think about it and the more I see arguments against him the more I can't help but think that TIK is scum. I have absolutely no idea what he could have been possibly thinking if he really thought DLE was his partner and not the host; did he not even bother to say hi to DLE on IRC before D1 started? I dunno, maybe not everyone plays mafia the same way I do, but if I have a partner you better believe the first thing I'm doing is talking to him and getting started on planning. He does say in post #154 that he was chatting with DLE and Sam when the game started and thus assumed DLE was his partner, but even then, you'd think he'd have PMed DLE immediately to figure out what the plan for the day was. Until we get a better explanation from TIK (and since I've finally realized that with 43 people in the game we can afford to have 10-15 votes on one person)Another thing that bothers me is that TIK didn't attempt to talk to DLE on Night 0. If he really thought DLE was his ally at the time, wouldn't he attempt to talk to him about general game plan for Day 1, since they would not be able to communicate privately then? You can't say he had nothing to discuss with his partner, since talking about what to think of and say to Ullar is a good topic. You could argue against this point by saying he was just being an idle villager. Although, he said "Ive spent too much time in past games idling because i was a stupid villager so I decided to throw some caution to the wind and play." in post #118.
He claims to have realized DLE wasn't his partner around the time of post #154. However, Ditto posted about DLE being a host in post #141, about 1 hour and 15 minutes earlier. You could argue against this point by saying he wasn't attentive to this post.
Is it realistic to think he was confused about his role PM, he didn't talk to DLE on N0, and wasn't attentive to a previous post while he was being put under vote pressure?
One way to 'solve' this problem may be something Agape kinda suggested earlier. We could get a majority of votes (maybe 23) on one target, and of the voters would be TIK. Then, all the Rohirrim and remaining people (maybe 20) vote TIK. If TIK is Rohirrim himself, he won't be speared to death. This would obviously create a list of potential Rohirrim for the mafia to go after, so I am not at all 100% condoning this idea. I'm just presenting it as a possibility, and it could be something used in the future. However, I do think we are being sort of protective of our Soldiers and Rohorrim. I thought these two roles were supposed to be vanilla villagers, only with a slight twist.
Please feel free to discuss these points and point out any flaws in my thinking.
Unvote (still want TheGottemer to stop in and say hi though! ^_^)
Vote THE_IRON_KENYAN
I don't particularly like any plan that involves us manipulating the Rohirrim's ability because, as you pointed out Pidge, it makes it way too easy for the mafia to start whittling down who the Rohirrim are. Not to mention that if TIK is mafia and the mafia has a bodyguard they could easily just block the kill on TIK that they know is coming and then we'd all assume that TIK is clean. Admittedly, now that I think about it in order to get any use out of the Rohirrim ability we would need to do something similar (unless the lynch somehow gets blocked), so maybe we shouldn't be worried about that.
As for Agape, since there's been some recent discussion about him apparently, it seems like he's being the typical "hyper-aggresive call everyone out on d1" NOC player, which is usually a town play. After all, discussion for the town is always good. I'm willing to believe he's clean for the time being.