Ursaring (OU Revamp) Done!

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[OVERVIEW]
Ursaring has the highest Attack stat of any Normal-type at base 130, allowing it to KO some Pokemon that its main competitors Snorlax and Kangaskhan cannot. It also has a decent Special Attack and special movepool, letting it perform as a niche mixed attacker. Unfortunately, Ursaring's positives end there, as it still faces far too much competition in all of its roles. Other Normal-types such as Porygon2, Snorlax, and even Tauros mostly outclass Ursaring due to their superior bulk, coverage, or Speed. As a Curse phazer, Ursaring is usually outdone by Rhydon and Kangaskhan, where the former sports better physical bulk and a Ground/Rock typing and the latter making up for its worse Attack with better overall bulk, allowing it to stay in longer. Ursaring's subpar bulk and Normal typing also provide its team with no useful defensive utility, and since Snorlax is often considered mandatory on OU teams, both can create a big Fighting-type weakness for its team together. Due to these traits, Ursaring should rarely, if ever, be considered on a serious team.

[SET]
name: Cursaring
move 1: Curse
move 2: Return
move 3: Earthquake / Rest
move 4: Roar
item: Leftovers


[SET COMMENTS]
Set Details
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Curse raises Ursaring's Attack and Defense by one stage and also lowers its Speed by one stage, allowing it to potentially phaze other Roar users such as Steelix while being able to deal and withstand more damage. Return is Ursaring's strongest STAB move and can do a considerable amount of damage to anything that doesn't resist it. Earthquake gives Ursaring coverage to help take down Rock-types that would otherwise wall it. Roar allows Ursaring to beat enemy Curse users as long as it gets a Curse boost first. With the Speed drop from Curse, Roar also allows Ursaring to get around Pokemon that would otherwise counter it through phazing such as Skarmory. However, this strategy is ruined if Ursaring gets poisoned, so it can elect to use Rest instead of Earthquake. If it selects Roar while asleep and is slower, it will still block enemy phazing attempts. Leftovers gives Ursaring essential passive recovery. This set faces heavy competition for a teamslot from Kangaskhan, whose superior bulk better suits the Curse phazer role and mostly makes up for its significantly lower Attack stat.


[SET]
name: RestTalk
move 1: Return
move 2: Curse
move 3: Rest
move 4: Sleep Talk
item: Leftovers

[SET COMMENTS]
Set Details
========
Rest fully restores Ursaring's health, and Sleep Talk randomly selects a move to take advantage of the two turn sleep caused by Rest. Return is Ursaring's strongest STAB attack and most efficient move, but Earthquake can be run to hit Steel- and Rock-types that would otherwise wall it. Curse increases Ursaring's bulk and power at the cost of Speed. Sadly, Ursaring is completely outclassed as a RestTalk user by Snorlax because, despite its higher Attack, Ursaring is not bulky enough to effectively wall any threat and lacks Double-Edge or Body Slam. Ursaring also does not effectively work as a substitute for Curse Snorlax due to these traits.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
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A mixed attacker set with Return / Earthquake / Dynamic Punch with Fire Punch, Thunder Punch, or Zap Cannon can be run. However, this set is mostly outclassed by Snorlax and Porygon2, which have better bulk and access to Flamethrower and Fire Blast for the former and Ice Beam for the latter, though Dynamic Punch has the benefit of KOing Tyranitar, which Porygon2 struggles to do. Counter takes advantage of Ursaring's rather average bulk to potentially KO threats such as +1 Attack Skarmory and Steelix, but this can take the slot of an important move, so it is difficult to fit on any set. Incorrectly predicting can lead to the opponent boosting freely, spreading status, or phazing Ursaring, so it is rather risky. When paired with Berserk Gene, Hyper Beam is an extremely powerful STAB move that can land a surprise KO on Pokemon that stay in on Ursaring. However, using Hyper Beam immediately renders Ursaring immobile for a single turn, which can give the opponent a free turn to boost, set up Spikes, or status Ursaring. Berserk Gene also has the issue of confusion, which can hurt Ursaring quite a bit if it is unlucky. Thief hinders some of Ursaring's common checks and counters such as Skarmory and Steelix by removing their Leftovers to reduce their longevity, something that Kangaskhan and Snorlax cannot do. However, Thief is very weak and is only able to be used once before becoming useless.

Checks and Counters
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**Steel-types**: Forretress, Steelix, and Skarmory completely wall any of Ursaring's sets barring its mixed set. Steelix has such high bulk that it takes Ursaring two Curse boosts just to 2HKO it with Earthquake, and Steelix can retaliate by phazing or setting up on Ursaring. Skarmory laughs at Ursaring's Return and is immune to Earthquake. Skarmory can phaze Ursaring in return, which can be an issue for Ursaring, as it lacks the bulk and resistances to switch in often. Forretress takes neutral damage from Earthquake and requires Ursaring to use Curse four times to get a guaranteed 2HKO. Forretress can also set up Spikes and cripple Ursaring with Toxic.

**Rock-types**: If Ursaring is not running Earthquake, it is walled by popular Rock-types such as Tyranitar and Rhydon. These Pokemon are also able to threaten Ursaring with their high Attack and STAB moves.

**Cloyster**: Cloyster can take advantage of Ursaring by easily tanking its attacks, setting up Spikes, and using Toxic or Surf on it before either using Explosion or switching to the appropriate counter to Ursaring.

**Miltank and Umbreon**: Due to Ursaring's lack of access to Body Slam and Double-Edge, it doesn't have a STAB option that would allow it to potentially get past Miltank or Umbreon. They can negate any Attack boosts with Growl or Charm and heal off any damage, allowing both to run Ursaring out of PP or weaken it for a teammate to finish it off.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Oldamar999,453750]]
- Quality checked by: [[Earthworm,15210], [Jorgen,53302]]
- Grammar checked by: [[Estronic,240732], [The Dutch Plumberjack,232216]]
 
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Oldamar999 said:
{OVERVIEW]
however, even considering this, Ursaring is still almost entirely outclassed by everything, and should rarely, if ever, be considered on a serious team.
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I think you should remove "by everything" from here to avoid ambiguity.
[SET]
name: Cursaring

[SET COMMENTS]
Set Details
========
Curse raises Ursaring's Attack and Defense stats by 1 stage, while also lowering it's Speed by 1 stage, which allows it to potentially phaze other roar users such as Steelix as well as being able to deal and take more damage. Return is Ursaring's strongest STAB move, and can do a considerable chunk of damage to Pokemon such as Snorlax and Machamp.
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Change "take more damage" to "withstand more damage" (to be honest I am not sure if this makes sense but "takes more damage" definitely doesn't make sense)
I would also change "Pokemon such as Snorlax and Machamp" to "anything that doesn't resist it".
Roar Phazes out the Pokemon right in front of Ursaring and with spikes support it can wear down checks by forcing them to come in, Ursaring's low speed allows it to phaze out enemy phazers if they are faster than itself. leftovers gives Ursaring essential passive recovery.
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I would reword this to say that Roar prevents Ursaring from being phazed and allows it to beat most enemy Cursers, as long as it gets the first Curse.
However, this set is completely outclassed by Rhydon, which sports much better physical bulk and Powerful Rock- and Ground-type STABS with Earthquake and Rock Slide, its typing also gives it strong resistances to Normal- and Fire-type attacks as well as giving it an Electric-type immunity, Rhydon is also slower, so it can phaze out other phazers like Ursaring first.
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I would add "if it has an equal number of Curse boosts".

Other Options
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however, this set is mostly outclassed by Snorlax and Porygon2, which have better bulk and access to flamethrower, fire blast, and ice beam, though Dynamic Punch has the benefit of KOing Tyranitar, for which Porygon2 takes a lot more time to do.
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I would reword this to make it clear that P2 doesn't get these fire moves.
Checks and Counters
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Skarmory laughs in the face of Returns and is immune to Earthquake, Skarmory in return can set up Curse to make Skarmory more threatening to Ursaring offensively.
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Skarmory will probably just phaze Ursaring, which is quite bad for it because it doesn't have resistances or bulk to help it switch in often.

Cloyster: Cloyster has enough bulk to easily tank any hit directed at it not named Dynamic Punch, and can set spikes in front of Ursaring and explode.
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Nothing here is wrong but you could improve it to something like "Cloyster can take advantage of Ursaring by easily tanking its attacks, setting up Spikes, and hitting it with Toxic or Surf before either Exploding or switching to the appropriate counter."
Miltank and Umbreon: Miltank and Umbreon have good bulk that is high enough to prevent them from getting KOed by Ursaring's attacks, and they can both lower Ursaring's attack with growl and charm respectively. they can both wear Ursaring down with Body Slam and Toxic respectively.
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Similarly I think this could be improved to something like "Due to Ursaring's lack of access to Body Slam and Double-Edge, it is without a STAB option that would allow it to potentially get past Miltank or Umbreon. They can negate any Attack boosts with Growl or Charm and heal off any damage, running Ursaring out of PP or weakening it for a teammate to finish off."

Jorgen do you have any opinions on the sets?
 
Protect on the first set seems wrong. Rest should probably be the main move there, with EQ slashed in. Also, if anything completely outclasses this set it's Kangaskhan; Rhydon is also generally better, but it does have to worry about more moves that hit it for SE damage.

Second set is fine, but make it abundantly clear that it's no substitute for Snorlax. It's quite mediocre on defense, doesn't really wall anything.

The mixed attacker set in OO isn't especially good, and in fact probably works out worse in practice than the other two (hence why it's OO), but it is probably Ursaring's best bet at not being outclassed, contrary to its current description. Roar sets are outclassed handily by Kangaskhan whereas ST sets are not nearly tanky enough to function as "second Snorlax". But mixed sets can lean on Ursaring's better attacking stats (if worse movepool) to function as "second Snorlax" in that regard.

Thief in Other Options deserves a mention because it's one thing Ursaring can do that Kangaskhan and Snorlax can't.

Hyper Beam should only be mentioned in tandem with Berserk Gene (it's an 80% OHKO on unboosted Snorlax), as otherwise it's just too much drawback to be useful.

Slash probably shouldn't be mentioned.
 
Jorgen said:
Protect on the first set seems wrong. Rest should probably be the main move there, with EQ slashed in. Also, if anything completely outclasses this set it's Kangaskhan; Rhydon is also generally better, but it does have to worry about more moves that hit it for SE damage.

Second set is fine, but make it abundantly clear that it's no substitute for Snorlax. It's quite mediocre on defense, doesn't really wall anything.

The mixed attacker set in OO isn't especially good, and in fact probably works out worse in practice than the other two (hence why it's OO), but it is probably Ursaring's best bet at not being outclassed, contrary to its current description. Roar sets are outclassed handily by Kangaskhan whereas ST sets are not nearly tanky enough to function as "second Snorlax". But mixed sets can lean on Ursaring's better attacking stats (if worse movepool) to function as "second Snorlax" in that regard.

Thief in Other Options deserves a mention because it's one thing Ursaring can do that Kangaskhan and Snorlax can't.

Hyper Beam should only be mentioned in tandem with Berserk Gene (it's an 80% OHKO on unboosted Snorlax), as otherwise it's just too much drawback to be useful.

Slash probably shouldn't be mentioned.
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I have implemented almost everything on here except for your point on the Mixed attacker set, I was discussing it on the ROA discord, and I think that Porygon2 and Snorlax are just better as mixed attackers. pardon me.
 
That's fine, I was spitballing on that point anyway. Ursaring is mostly doomed to be a "worse X" no matter what you do.
 
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{[OVERVIEW] (fixed format)
Ursaring has a very difficult time justifying a place in any OU team due to facing far too much competition in any role it tries to perform. Ursaring It faces fierce competition from other Normal-Types Normal-types such as Porygon2, Snorlax, and even Tauros, all of which mostly outclass it Ursaring due to their superior bulk, coverage, or speed Speed. As a Curse Phazer phazer, Ursaring faces heavy competition from Rhydon and Kangaskhan, the former sports sporting better physical bulk and a ground/rock Ground / Rock typing, (RC) and the latter makes making up for its worse attack Attack with better overall bulk, which allows it to stay in longer. Ursaring's Normal-typing (remove hyphen) also provides its team with no useful defensive utility, and since Snorlax is often considered mandatory on OU teams, it both can compound into a team Fighting-type Weakness weakness. Ursaring's only real advantage over any of its competition is It's its high base 130 Attack stat and Normal-type STAB, so for it can to get some KOs easier. however However, even when considering this, Ursaring should rarely, if ever, be considered on a serious team.

[SET]
name: Cursaring (double check with qc if the name's alright to use, it probably is but just to be safe)
move 1: Curse
move 2: Return
move 3: Earthquake / Rest (fixed format)
move 4: Roar
item: Leftovers


[SET COMMENTS]
Set Details
========
Curse raises Ursaring's Attack and Defense stats by 1 one stage, (RC) while also lowering it's its Speed by 1 one stage, which allows it to potentially phaze other roar Roar users such as Steelix as well as being able to deal and withstand more damage. Return is Ursaring's strongest STAB move, (RC) and can do a considerable chunk amount of damage to anything that doesn't resist it. Earthquake gives Ursaring coverage to help take down Rock-types that would otherwise wall it. Roar allows it Ursaring to beat enemy curse Curse users, just as long as Ursaring it gets a curse Curse boost first. As phazing moves only work when they go second, Curse and Roar also allows Ursaring to get around Pokemon that would otherwise counter it through phazing, such as Skarmory. However, this strategy is ruined if Ursaring gets poisoned, so Ursaring it can elect to use Rest instead of Earthquake. If it selects Roar while slower and asleep, it will still block enemy phazing attempts. leftovers Leftovers gives Ursaring essential passive recovery. However, this set faces heavy competition for a team slot with Kangaskhan, whose superior bulk better suits the Curse phazer role and mostly makes up for its significantly lower Attack stat. (add period)


[SET]
name: RestTalk
move 1: Return
move 2: Curse
move 3: Rest
move 4: Sleep Talk
item: Leftovers

[SET COMMENTS]
Set Details
========
This is a standard RestTalk set. (fluff) Rest fully Restores restores Ursaring's health, and Sleep Talk takes advantage of the 2 turn Sleep caused two turns asleep caused by rest Rest by randomly selecting a move. Return is once again Ursaring's most spammable efficient (you can use any other word that best fits, spammable just feels too casual) move, being its strongest STAB attack. Earthquake can be run to hit Steel- and Rock-types that would otherwise wall it. Curse increases Ursaring's bulk and Power power at the cost of Speed. Sadly, Ursaring is completely outclassed as a RestTalk user by Snorlax since because, despite its higher Attack, Ursaring is far less not bulky enough, so it is unable to effectively wall any threat, (RC) and lacks Double-Edge or Body Slam, (RC). (add period) Ursaring also does not effectively work as a substitute for Curse Snorlax due to these traits. (i would rather have this sentence in the curse set and explain why it gets outclassed there)

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
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A mixed attacker set with Return / Earthquake / Dynamic Punch / Fire Punch, (AC) or Thunder Punch, (AC) or Zap Cannon can be run (fixed formatting). however However, this set is mostly outclassed by Snorlax and Porygon2, which have better bulk and access to flamethrower Flamethrower and fire blast Fire Blast for the former, (RC) and ice beam Ice Beam for the latter, though. (add period) Though, (AC) Dynamic Punch has the benefit of KOing Tyranitar, for which Porygon2 takes a lot more time to do. Counter takes advantage of Ursaring's rather average bulk to potentially KO threats such as Skarmory and Steelix at +1 Attack, but this can remove take the slot of an important move, so it is rather difficult to fit on any set, and incorrectly predicting can lead to the opponent getting a free boost, spreading a status, or phaze phazing it, so it is rather risky (this sentence is really long, i'd recommend that you separate them into two sentences, optional though). When paired with Berserk Gene, Hyper Beam is an extremely powerful STAB move that can land a surprise KO on Pokemon that stay in on Ursaring; however, using Hyper Beam immediately renders Ursaring immobile for a single turn, Which which can give the opponent a Free free turn to set up Boosts boosts, set up Spikes, or put status on Ursaring. Berserk Gene also has the issue of confusion, which can hurt Ursaring quite a bit if it is unlucky enough for confusion to work. Thief hinders some of Ursaring's common checks and counters such as Skarmory and Steelix by removing their leftovers, which reduces Leftovers to reduce their longevity, something that Kangaskhan and Snorlax cannot do. however, However Thief is rather weak, (RC) and is only able to be used once before becoming, afterwards it's useless.

Checks and Counters
===================

Steel-types: Forretress, Steelix, and Skarmory completely wall any of Ursaring's sets barring the Mixed its mixed set. Steelix has such high bulk that it takes Ursaring 2 curse two Curse boosts with Earthquake just to 2HKO it with Earthquake, and Steelix can retaliate by Phazing or Setting phazing or setting up on Ursaring. Skarmory laughs in the face of at Ursaring's Returns and is immune to Earthquake, (RC). (add period) Skarmory also can phaze ursaring Ursaring in return, which can be an issue for Ursaring, (RC) as it lacks the bulk and resistances to switch in often. Forretress is takes neutral to damage from Earthquake and requires Ursaring to use Curse 4 four times to get a guaranteed 2HKO. Forretress can also Set set up Spikes or spread Toxic to Ursaring.

Rock-types: If Ursaring is not running Earthquake, it is walled by Popular popular Rock-types such as Tyranitar and Rhydon. These Pokemon both are able to offensively threaten Ursaring with their high Attack and STAB moves.

Cloyster: Cloyster can take advantage of Ursaring by easily tanking its attacks, setting up Spikes, and hitting it with Toxic or Surf before either Exploding using Explosion or switching to the appropriate counter to Ursaring.

Miltank and Umbreon: Due to Ursaring's lack of access to Body Slam and Double-Edge, it is without doesn't have a STAB option that would allow it to potentially get past Miltank or Umbreon. They can negate any Attack boosts with Growl or Charm and heal off any damage, allowing both to running Ursaring out of PP or weakening it for a teammate to finish it off.
 
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[OVERVIEW] (formatting)
Ursaring has a very difficult time justifying a place in on any OU team due to facing far too much competition in any role it tries to perform all of its roles. Ursaring faces fierce competition from struggles when compared to other Normal-Types such as Porygon2, Snorlax, and even Tauros, which mostly outclass it due to their superior bulk, coverage, or speed. (didn't want to use competition two sentences in a row) As a Curse Phazer, Ursaring faces heavy competition from is compared to (same comment as above) Rhydon and Kangaskhan, where the former sports better physical bulk and a Ground/Rock(capitalize) typing, and the latter makes up for its worse attack with better overall bulk,(RC) which allows allowing it to stay in longer. Ursaring's Normal -(RH)typing also provides its team with no useful defensive utility, and since Snorlax is often considered mandatory on OU teams, it can compound a Fighting-type Weakness. Ursaring's only real advantage over any of its competition is It's its high base 130 Attack stat and Normal-type STAB, so it can get some KOs easier. However(capitalize), even considering this, Ursaring should rarely, if ever, be considered on a serious team.

[SET]
name: Cursaring
move 1: Curse
move 2: Return
move 3: Earthquake/Rest
move 4: Roar
item: Leftovers


[SET COMMENTS]
Set Details
========
Curse raises Ursaring's Attack and Defense stats by 1 stage,(RC) while also lowering it's and also lowers its Speed by 1 stage, which allows allowing it to potentially phaze other roar users such as Steelix as well as while being able to deal and withstand more damage. Return is Ursaring's strongest STAB move,(RC) and can do a considerable chunk of damage to anything that doesn't resist it. Earthquake gives Ursaring coverage to help take down Rock-types that would otherwise wall it. Roar allows it to beat enemy Curse(capitalize) users, just as long as Ursaring gets a Curse(capitalize) boost first. As (maybe consider "Because") phazing moves only work when they go second, Curse Roar with the Speed drop from Curse also allows Ursaring to get around Pokemon that would otherwise counter it through phazing, such as Skarmory. However, this strategy is ruined if Ursaring gets poisoned, so Ursaring can elect to use Rest instead of Earthquake. If it selects Roar while slower and asleep and it is slower, it will still block enemy phazing attempts. Leftovers(capitalize) gives Ursaring essential passive recovery. However,(RC) This(capitalize) set faces heavy competition for a team slot with from Kangaskhan, whose superior bulk better suits the Curse phazer role and mostly makes up for its significantly lower Attack stat.(AP)


[SET]
name: RestTalk
move 1: Return
move 2: Curse
move 3: Rest
move 4: Sleep Talk
item: Leftovers

[SET COMMENTS]
Set Details
========
This is a standard RestTalk set. Rest fully restores(lowercase) Ursaring's health, and Sleep Talk takes advantage of the 2 turn Sleep caused by rest by randomly selecting a move randomly selects a move to take advantage of the two turn sleep caused by Rest. Return is once again Ursaring's strongest STAB attack and most spammable move,(RC) being its strongest STAB. Earthquake can be run to hit Steel- and Rock-types that would otherwise wall it. Curse increases Ursaring's bulk and power(lowercase) at the cost of Speed. Sadly, Ursaring is completely outclassed as a RestTalk user by Snorlax.(AP) since, Despite(capitalize) its higher Attack, Ursaring is far less bulky, so it is unable to effectively wall any threat,(RC) .(AP) and Ursaring also lacks Double-Edge or Body Slam, Ursaring also so it does not effectively work as a substitute for Curse Snorlax due to these traits. (had to fix some of the sentence structure in here so that it makes more sense and flows better)

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
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A mixed attacker set with Return/ Earthquake/ Dynamic Punch/ Fire Punch or Thunder Punch or Zap Cannon can be run. However(capitalize), this set is mostly outclassed by Snorlax and Porygon2, which have better bulk and access to Flamethrower(capitalize) and Fire Blast(capitalize) for the former, and Ice Beam(capitalize) for the latter, though Dynamic Punch has the benefit of KOing Tyranitar, for which Porygon2 takes a lot more time struggles to do. Counter takes advantage of Ursaring's rather average bulk to potentially KO threats such as Skarmory and Steelix at +1 Attack, but this can remove an important move, so it is rather difficult to fit on any set,.(AP) and Incorrectly(capitalize) predicting with Counter can lead to the opponent getting a free boost boosting freely, spreading a status, or phaze it phazing out Ursaring, so it is rather risky. When paired with Berserk Gene, Hyper Beam is an extremely powerful STAB move that can land a surprise KO on Pokemon that stay in on Ursaring;.(AP) However, using Hyper Beam immediately renders Ursaring immobile for a single turn, which(lowercase) can give the opponent a free(lowercase) turn to set up boosts(lowercase), set up Spikes, or put status on Ursaring. Berserk Gene also has the issue of confusion, which can hurt Ursaring quite a bit if it is unlucky enough for confusion to work. Thief hinders some of Ursaring's common checks and counters such as Skarmory and Steelix by removing their Leftovers(capitalize), which reduces their longevity, something that Kangaskhan and Snorlax cannot do. However, Thief is rather weak, and is only able to be used once,(RC) afterwards it's before it becomes useless.

Checks and Counters
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Steel-types: Forretress, Steelix, and Skarmory completely wall any set barring the Mixed set. Steelix has such high bulk that it takes Ursaring 2 two Curse(capitalize) boosts with Earthquake just to 2HKO it, and Steelix can retaliate by phazing(lowercase) or setting(lowercase) up on Ursaring. Skarmory laughs in the face of Returns and is immune to Earthquake,.(AP) Skarmory can phaze ursaring in return, which can be an issue for Ursaring, as it lacks the bulk and resistances to switch in often. Forretress is neutral to Earthquake and requires Ursaring to use Curse 4 four times to get a guaranteed 2HKO. Forretress can also set(lowercase) up Spikes or spread Toxic to cripple Ursaring with Toxic.

Rock-types: If Ursaring is not running Earthquake, it is walled by popular(lowercase) Rock-types such as Tyranitar and Rhydon. These Pokemon both are able to offensively can also threaten Ursaring with their high Attack and STAB moves.

Cloyster: Cloyster can take advantage of Ursaring by easily tanking its attacks, setting up Spikes, and hitting it with Toxic or Surf before either Exploding or switching to the appropriate counter.

Miltank and Umbreon: Due to Ursaring's lack of access to Body Slam and Double-Edge, it is without a STAB option that would allow it to potentially get past Miltank or Umbreon. They can negate any Attack boosts with Growl or Charm and heal off any damage, running Ursaring out of PP or weakening it for a teammate to finish off.
 
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{[OVERVIEW] (fixed format)
Ursaring has a very difficult time justifying a place in any OU team due to facing far too much competition in any role it tries to perform. Ursaring It faces fierce competition from other Normal-Types Normal-types such as Porygon2, Snorlax, and even Tauros, all of which mostly outclass it Ursaring due to their superior bulk, coverage, or speed Speed. As a Curse Phazer phazer, Ursaring faces heavy competition from Rhydon and Kangaskhan, the former sports sporting better physical bulk and a ground/rock Ground / Rock typing, (RC) and the latter makes making up for its worse attack Attack with better overall bulk, which allows it to stay in longer. Ursaring's Normal-typing (remove hyphen) also provides its team with no useful defensive utility, and since Snorlax is often considered mandatory on OU teams, it both can compound into a team Fighting-type Weakness weakness. Ursaring's only real advantage over any of its competition is It's its high base 130 Attack stat and Normal-type STAB, so for it can to get some KOs easier. however However, even when considering this, Ursaring should rarely, if ever, be considered on a serious team.

[SET]
name: Cursaring (double check with qc if the name's alright to use, it probably is but just to be safe)
move 1: Curse
move 2: Return
move 3: Earthquake / Rest (fixed format)
move 4: Roar
item: Leftovers


[SET COMMENTS]
Set Details
========
Curse raises Ursaring's Attack and Defense stats by 1 one stage, (RC) while also lowering it's its Speed by 1 one stage, which allows it to potentially phaze other roar Roar users such as Steelix as well as being able to deal and withstand more damage. Return is Ursaring's strongest STAB move, (RC) and can do a considerable chunk amount of damage to anything that doesn't resist it. Earthquake gives Ursaring coverage to help take down Rock-types that would otherwise wall it. Roar allows it Ursaring to beat enemy curse Curse users, just as long as Ursaring it gets a curse Curse boost first. As phazing moves only work when they go second, Curse and Roar also allows Ursaring to get around Pokemon that would otherwise counter it through phazing, such as Skarmory. However, this strategy is ruined if Ursaring gets poisoned, so Ursaring it can elect to use Rest instead of Earthquake. If it selects Roar while slower and asleep, it will still block enemy phazing attempts. leftovers Leftovers gives Ursaring essential passive recovery. However, this set faces heavy competition for a team slot with Kangaskhan, whose superior bulk better suits the Curse phazer role and mostly makes up for its significantly lower Attack stat. (add period)


[SET]
name: RestTalk
move 1: Return
move 2: Curse
move 3: Rest
move 4: Sleep Talk
item: Leftovers

[SET COMMENTS]
Set Details
========
This is a standard RestTalk set. (fluff) Rest fully Restores restores Ursaring's health, and Sleep Talk takes advantage of the 2 turn Sleep caused two turns asleep caused by rest Rest by randomly selecting a move. Return is once again Ursaring's most spammable efficient (you can use any other word that best fits, spammable just feels too casual) move, being its strongest STAB attack. Earthquake can be run to hit Steel- and Rock-types that would otherwise wall it. Curse increases Ursaring's bulk and Power power at the cost of Speed. Sadly, Ursaring is completely outclassed as a RestTalk user by Snorlax since because, despite its higher Attack, Ursaring is far less not bulky enough, so it is unable to effectively wall any threat, (RC) and lacks Double-Edge or Body Slam, (RC). (add period) Ursaring also does not effectively work as a substitute for Curse Snorlax due to these traits. (i would rather have this sentence in the curse set and explain why it gets outclassed there)

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
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A mixed attacker set with Return / Earthquake / Dynamic Punch / Fire Punch, (AC) or Thunder Punch, (AC) or Zap Cannon can be run (fixed formatting). however However, this set is mostly outclassed by Snorlax and Porygon2, which have better bulk and access to flamethrower Flamethrower and fire blast Fire Blast for the former, (RC) and ice beam Ice Beam for the latter, though. (add period) Though, (AC) Dynamic Punch has the benefit of KOing Tyranitar, for which Porygon2 takes a lot more time to do. Counter takes advantage of Ursaring's rather average bulk to potentially KO threats such as Skarmory and Steelix at +1 Attack, but this can remove take the slot of an important move, so it is rather difficult to fit on any set, and incorrectly predicting can lead to the opponent getting a free boost, spreading a status, or phaze phazing it, so it is rather risky (this sentence is really long, i'd recommend that you separate them into two sentences, optional though). When paired with Berserk Gene, Hyper Beam is an extremely powerful STAB move that can land a surprise KO on Pokemon that stay in on Ursaring; however, using Hyper Beam immediately renders Ursaring immobile for a single turn, Which which can give the opponent a Free free turn to set up Boosts boosts, set up Spikes, or put status on Ursaring. Berserk Gene also has the issue of confusion, which can hurt Ursaring quite a bit if it is unlucky enough for confusion to work. Thief hinders some of Ursaring's common checks and counters such as Skarmory and Steelix by removing their leftovers, which reduces Leftovers to reduce their longevity, something that Kangaskhan and Snorlax cannot do. however, However Thief is rather weak, (RC) and is only able to be used once before becoming, afterwards it's useless.

Checks and Counters
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Steel-types: Forretress, Steelix, and Skarmory completely wall any of Ursaring's sets barring the Mixed its mixed set. Steelix has such high bulk that it takes Ursaring 2 curse two Curse boosts with Earthquake just to 2HKO it with Earthquake, and Steelix can retaliate by Phazing or Setting phazing or setting up on Ursaring. Skarmory laughs in the face of at Ursaring's Returns and is immune to Earthquake, (RC). (add period) Skarmory also can phaze ursaring Ursaring in return, which can be an issue for Ursaring, (RC) as it lacks the bulk and resistances to switch in often. Forretress is takes neutral to damage from Earthquake and requires Ursaring to use Curse 4 four times to get a guaranteed 2HKO. Forretress can also Set set up Spikes or spread Toxic to Ursaring.

Rock-types: If Ursaring is not running Earthquake, it is walled by Popular popular Rock-types such as Tyranitar and Rhydon. These Pokemon both are able to offensively threaten Ursaring with their high Attack and STAB moves.

Cloyster: Cloyster can take advantage of Ursaring by easily tanking its attacks, setting up Spikes, and hitting it with Toxic or Surf before either Exploding using Explosion or switching to the appropriate counter to Ursaring.

Miltank and Umbreon: Due to Ursaring's lack of access to Body Slam and Double-Edge, it is without doesn't have a STAB option that would allow it to potentially get past Miltank or Umbreon. They can negate any Attack boosts with Growl or Charm and heal off any damage, allowing both to running Ursaring out of PP or weakening it for a teammate to finish it off.
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amcheck, but Estronic finished 5 mins before me >:O

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[OVERVIEW] (formatting)
Ursaring has a very difficult time justifying a place in on any OU team due to facing far too much competition in any role it tries to perform all of its roles. Ursaring faces fierce competition from struggles when compared to other Normal-Types such as Porygon2, Snorlax, and even Tauros, which mostly outclass it due to their superior bulk, coverage, or speed. (didn't want to use competition two sentences in a row) As a Curse Phazer, Ursaring faces heavy competition from is compared to (same comment as above) Rhydon and Kangaskhan, where the former sports better physical bulk and a Ground/Rock(capitalize) typing, and the latter makes up for its worse attack with better overall bulk,(RC) which allows allowing it to stay in longer. Ursaring's Normal -(RH)typing also provides its team with no useful defensive utility, and since Snorlax is often considered mandatory on OU teams, it can compound a Fighting-type Weakness. Ursaring's only real advantage over any of its competition is It's its high base 130 Attack stat and Normal-type STAB, so it can get some KOs easier. However(capitalize), even considering this, Ursaring should rarely, if ever, be considered on a serious team.

[SET]
name: Cursaring
move 1: Curse
move 2: Return
move 3: Earthquake/Rest
move 4: Roar
item: Leftovers


[SET COMMENTS]
Set Details
========
Curse raises Ursaring's Attack and Defense stats by 1 stage,(RC) while also lowering it's and also lowers its Speed by 1 stage, which allows allowing it to potentially phaze other roar users such as Steelix as well as while being able to deal and withstand more damage. Return is Ursaring's strongest STAB move,(RC) and can do a considerable chunk of damage to anything that doesn't resist it. Earthquake gives Ursaring coverage to help take down Rock-types that would otherwise wall it. Roar allows it to beat enemy Curse(capitalize) users, just as long as Ursaring gets a Curse(capitalize) boost first. As (maybe consider "Because") phazing moves only work when they go second, Curse Roar with the Speed drop from Curse also allows Ursaring to get around Pokemon that would otherwise counter it through phazing, such as Skarmory. However, this strategy is ruined if Ursaring gets poisoned, so Ursaring can elect to use Rest instead of Earthquake. If it selects Roar while slower and asleep and it is slower, it will still block enemy phazing attempts. Leftovers(capitalize) gives Ursaring essential passive recovery. However,(RC) This(capitalize) set faces heavy competition for a team slot with from Kangaskhan, whose superior bulk better suits the Curse phazer role and mostly makes up for its significantly lower Attack stat.(AP)


[SET]
name: RestTalk
move 1: Return
move 2: Curse
move 3: Rest
move 4: Sleep Talk
item: Leftovers

[SET COMMENTS]
Set Details
========
This is a standard RestTalk set. Rest fully restores(lowercase) Ursaring's health, and Sleep Talk takes advantage of the 2 turn Sleep caused by rest by randomly selecting a move randomly selects a move to take advantage of the two turn sleep caused by Rest. Return is once again Ursaring's strongest STAB attack and most spammable move,(RC) being its strongest STAB. Earthquake can be run to hit Steel- and Rock-types that would otherwise wall it. Curse increases Ursaring's bulk and power(lowercase) at the cost of Speed. Sadly, Ursaring is completely outclassed as a RestTalk user by Snorlax.(AP) since, Despite(capitalize) its higher Attack, Ursaring is far less bulky, so it is unable to effectively wall any threat,(RC) .(AP) and Ursaring also lacks Double-Edge or Body Slam, Ursaring also so it does not effectively work as a substitute for Curse Snorlax due to these traits. (had to fix some of the sentence structure in here so that it makes more sense and flows better)

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============
A mixed attacker set with Return/ Earthquake/ Dynamic Punch/ Fire Punch or Thunder Punch or Zap Cannon can be run. However(capitalize), this set is mostly outclassed by Snorlax and Porygon2, which have better bulk and access to Flamethrower(capitalize) and Fire Blast(capitalize) for the former, and Ice Beam(capitalize) for the latter, though Dynamic Punch has the benefit of KOing Tyranitar, for which Porygon2 takes a lot more time struggles to do. Counter takes advantage of Ursaring's rather average bulk to potentially KO threats such as Skarmory and Steelix at +1 Attack, but this can remove an important move, so it is rather difficult to fit on any set,.(AP) and Incorrectly(capitalize) predicting with Counter can lead to the opponent getting a free boost boosting freely, spreading a status, or phaze it phazing out Ursaring, so it is rather risky. When paired with Berserk Gene, Hyper Beam is an extremely powerful STAB move that can land a surprise KO on Pokemon that stay in on Ursaring;.(AP) However, using Hyper Beam immediately renders Ursaring immobile for a single turn, which(lowercase) can give the opponent a free(lowercase) turn to set up boosts(lowercase), set up Spikes, or put status on Ursaring. Berserk Gene also has the issue of confusion, which can hurt Ursaring quite a bit if it is unlucky enough for confusion to work. Thief hinders some of Ursaring's common checks and counters such as Skarmory and Steelix by removing their Leftovers(capitalize), which reduces their longevity, something that Kangaskhan and Snorlax cannot do. However, Thief is rather weak, and is only able to be used once,(RC) afterwards it's before it becomes useless.

Checks and Counters
===================

Steel-types: Forretress, Steelix, and Skarmory completely wall any set barring the Mixed set. Steelix has such high bulk that it takes Ursaring 2 two Curse(capitalize) boosts with Earthquake just to 2HKO it, and Steelix can retaliate by phazing(lowercase) or setting(lowercase) up on Ursaring. Skarmory laughs in the face of Returns and is immune to Earthquake,.(AP) Skarmory can phaze ursaring in return, which can be an issue for Ursaring, as it lacks the bulk and resistances to switch in often. Forretress is neutral to Earthquake and requires Ursaring to use Curse 4 four times to get a guaranteed 2HKO. Forretress can also set(lowercase) up Spikes or spread Toxic to cripple Ursaring with Toxic.

Rock-types: If Ursaring is not running Earthquake, it is walled by popular(lowercase) Rock-types such as Tyranitar and Rhydon. These Pokemon both are able to offensively can also threaten Ursaring with their high Attack and STAB moves.

Cloyster: Cloyster can take advantage of Ursaring by easily tanking its attacks, setting up Spikes, and hitting it with Toxic or Surf before either Exploding or switching to the appropriate counter.

Miltank and Umbreon: Due to Ursaring's lack of access to Body Slam and Double-Edge, it is without a STAB option that would allow it to potentially get past Miltank or Umbreon. They can negate any Attack boosts with Growl or Charm and heal off any damage, running Ursaring out of PP or weakening it for a teammate to finish off.
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due to the fact that I got two AM checks in a row, I implemented the stuff I preferred from both of you. thanks. Kris you can GP check this now.
 
Kris said:
:blobpensive: (this was not a reservation btw, sorry, but if nobody takes this in ~2 days then i can do it i guess lol)
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I am waiting for a gp check, this analysis is still being worked on I guess you can say. unless you mean if nobody gps, you can do it?
edit: sorry, I think I misinterpreted your post.
 
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[OVERVIEW]
Ursaring has the highest Attack stat of any Normal type at base 130, allowing it to KO some Pokemon that its main competitors Snorlax and Kangaskhan cannot, it. (add period) It also has a decent Special Attack and Special special movepool, letting it be a niche Mixed mixed attacker. Unfortunately, Ursaring's positives end there, as it still faces far too much competition in all of its roles. it It faces fierce competition from other Normal-types such as Porygon2, Snorlax, and even Tauros, all of which mostly outclass Ursaring due to their superior bulk, coverage, or Speed. As a Curse phazer, Ursaring is usually outdone by Rhydon and Kangaskhan, where the former sports better physical bulk and a Ground / Rock (spacing) typing and the latter making up for its worse Attack with better overall bulk, allows allowing it to stay in longer. Ursaring's subpar bulk and Normal typing also provides its team with no useful defensive utility, and since Snorlax is often considered mandatory on OU teams, both can create a big Fighting-type weakness for its team together compound into a team Fighting-type Weakness (original read really awkwardly). due Due to these traits, Ursaring should rarely, if ever, be considered on a serious team.

[SET]
name: Cursaring
move 1: Curse
move 2: Return
move 3: Earthquake / Rest
move 4: Roar
item: Leftovers


[SET COMMENTS]
Set Details
========
Curse raises Ursaring's Attack and Defense by one stage, (RC) and also lowers its Speed by one stage, allowing it to potentially phaze other roar Roar users such as Steelix while being able to deal and withstand more damage. Return is Ursaring's strongest STAB move and can do a considerable amount of damage to anything that doesn't resist it. Earthquake gives Ursaring coverage to help take down Rock-types that would otherwise wall it. Roar allows Ursaring to beat enemy Curse users, (RC) as long as it gets a Curse boost first. Because phazing moves only work when they go second, Roar also allows Ursaring with the Speed drop from Curse also allows Ursaring to get around Pokemon that would otherwise counter it through phazing, (RC) such as Skarmory. However, this strategy is ruined if Ursaring gets poisoned, so it can elect to use Rest instead of Earthquake. If it selects Roar while asleep and it is slower, it will still block enemy phazing attempts. Leftovers gives Ursaring essential passive recovery. This set faces heavy competition for a team slot from Kangaskhan, whose superior bulk better suits the Curse phazer role and mostly makes up for its significantly lower Attack stat.


[SET]
name: RestTalk
move 1: Return
move 2: Curse
move 3: Rest
move 4: Sleep Talk
item: Leftovers

[SET COMMENTS]
Set Details
========
Rest fully restores Ursaring's health, and Sleep Talk randomly selects a move to take advantage of the two turn sleep caused by rest Rest. Return is once again Ursaring's strongest STAB attack and most efficient move. Earthquake can be run to hit Steel- and Rock-types that would otherwise wall it. Curse increases Ursaring's bulk and power at the cost of Speed. Sadly, Ursaring is completely outclassed as a RestTalk user by Snorlax because, despite its higher Attack, Ursaring is not bulky enough to effectively wall any threat and lacks Double-Edge or Body Slam. Ursaring also does not effectively work as a substitute for Curse Snorlax due to these traits.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============
A mixed attacker set with Return / Earthquake / Dynamic Punch / with Fire Punch, Thunder Punch, or Zap Cannon can be run (fixed spacing). However, this set is mostly outclassed by Snorlax and Porygon2, which have better bulk and access to Flamethrower and Fire Blast for the former and Ice Beam for the latter. Though, (AC) though Dynamic Punch has the benefit of KOing Tyranitar, for which Porygon2 struggles to do. Counter takes advantage of Ursaring's rather average bulk to potentially KO threats such as Skarmory and Steelix at +1 Attack, but this can take the slot of an important move, so it is difficult to fit on any set. Incorrectly predicting can lead to the opponent boosting freely, spreading status, or phazing out Ursaring, so it is rather risky. When paired with Berserk Gene, Hyper Beam is an extremely powerful STAB move that can land a surprise KO on Pokemon that stay in on Ursaring. However, using Hyper Beam immediately renders Ursaring immobile for a single turn, which can give the opponent a free turn to set up boosts, set up Spikes, or status Ursaring. Berserk Gene also has the issue of confusion, which can hurt Ursaring quite a bit if it is unlucky. Thief hinders some of Ursaring's common checks and counters such as Skarmory and Steelix by removing their Leftovers to reduce their longevity, something that Kangaskhan and Snorlax cannot do. However, Thief is very weak and is only able to be used once before becoming useless. (add period)

Checks and Counters
===================

**Steel-types**: Forretress, Steelix, and Skarmory completely wall any of Ursaring's sets barring its mixed set. Steelix has such high bulk that it takes Ursaring two Curse boosts just to 2HKO it with Earthquake, and Steelix can retaliate by phazing or setting up on Ursaring. Skarmory laughs at Ursaring's Return and is immune to Earthquake. Skarmory can phaze Ursaring in return, which can be an issue for Ursaring, (AC) as it lacks the bulk and resistances to switch in often. Forretress takes neutral damage from Earthquake and requires Ursaring to use Curse four times to get a guaranteed 2HKO. Forretress can also set up Spikes or and cripple Ursaring with Toxic.

**Rock-types**: If Ursaring is not running Earthquake, it is walled by popular Rock-types such as Tyranitar and Rhydon. These Pokemon are also able to threaten Ursaring with their high Attack and STAB moves.

**Cloyster**: Cloyster can take advantage of Ursaring by easily tanking its attacks, setting up Spikes, and hitting it with using Toxic or Surf on it (you don't really "hit" someone with toxic) before either using Explosion or switching to the appropriate counter to Ursaring.

**Miltank and Umbreon**: Due to Ursaring's lack of access to Body Slam and Double-Edge, it doesn't have a STAB option that would allow it to potentially get past Miltank or Umbreon. They can negate any Attack boosts with Growl or Charm and heal off any damage, allowing both to run Ursaring out of PP or weaken it for a teammate to finish it off.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Oldamar999, 453750]]
- Quality checked by: [[Earthworm, 15210], [Jorgen, 53302]] (fixed credit issues)
- Grammar checked by: [[, ], [, ]]
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[OVERVIEW]
Ursaring has the highest Attack stat of any Normal type at base 130, allowing it to KO some Pokemon that its main competitors Snorlax and Kangaskhan cannot, it. (add period) It also has a decent Special Attack and Special special movepool, letting it be a niche Mixed mixed attacker. Unfortunately, Ursaring's positives end there, as it still faces far too much competition in all of its roles. it It faces fierce competition from other Normal-types such as Porygon2, Snorlax, and even Tauros, all of which mostly outclass Ursaring due to their superior bulk, coverage, or Speed. As a Curse phazer, Ursaring is usually outdone by Rhydon and Kangaskhan, where the former sports better physical bulk and a Ground / Rock (spacing) typing and the latter making up for its worse Attack with better overall bulk, allows allowing it to stay in longer. Ursaring's subpar bulk and Normal typing also provides its team with no useful defensive utility, and since Snorlax is often considered mandatory on OU teams, both can create a big Fighting-type weakness for its team together compound into a team Fighting-type Weakness (original read really awkwardly). due Due to these traits, Ursaring should rarely, if ever, be considered on a serious team.

[SET]
name: Cursaring
move 1: Curse
move 2: Return
move 3: Earthquake / Rest
move 4: Roar
item: Leftovers


[SET COMMENTS]
Set Details
========
Curse raises Ursaring's Attack and Defense by one stage, (RC) and also lowers its Speed by one stage, allowing it to potentially phaze other roar Roar users such as Steelix while being able to deal and withstand more damage. Return is Ursaring's strongest STAB move and can do a considerable amount of damage to anything that doesn't resist it. Earthquake gives Ursaring coverage to help take down Rock-types that would otherwise wall it. Roar allows Ursaring to beat enemy Curse users, (RC) as long as it gets a Curse boost first. Because phazing moves only work when they go second, Roar also allows Ursaring with the Speed drop from Curse also allows Ursaring to get around Pokemon that would otherwise counter it through phazing, (RC) such as Skarmory. However, this strategy is ruined if Ursaring gets poisoned, so it can elect to use Rest instead of Earthquake. If it selects Roar while asleep and it is slower, it will still block enemy phazing attempts. Leftovers gives Ursaring essential passive recovery. This set faces heavy competition for a team slot from Kangaskhan, whose superior bulk better suits the Curse phazer role and mostly makes up for its significantly lower Attack stat.


[SET]
name: RestTalk
move 1: Return
move 2: Curse
move 3: Rest
move 4: Sleep Talk
item: Leftovers

[SET COMMENTS]
Set Details
========
Rest fully restores Ursaring's health, and Sleep Talk randomly selects a move to take advantage of the two turn sleep caused by rest Rest. Return is once again Ursaring's strongest STAB attack and most efficient move. Earthquake can be run to hit Steel- and Rock-types that would otherwise wall it. Curse increases Ursaring's bulk and power at the cost of Speed. Sadly, Ursaring is completely outclassed as a RestTalk user by Snorlax because, despite its higher Attack, Ursaring is not bulky enough to effectively wall any threat and lacks Double-Edge or Body Slam. Ursaring also does not effectively work as a substitute for Curse Snorlax due to these traits.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============
A mixed attacker set with Return / Earthquake / Dynamic Punch / with Fire Punch, Thunder Punch, or Zap Cannon can be run (fixed spacing). However, this set is mostly outclassed by Snorlax and Porygon2, which have better bulk and access to Flamethrower and Fire Blast for the former and Ice Beam for the latter. Though, (AC) though Dynamic Punch has the benefit of KOing Tyranitar, for which Porygon2 struggles to do. Counter takes advantage of Ursaring's rather average bulk to potentially KO threats such as Skarmory and Steelix at +1 Attack, but this can take the slot of an important move, so it is difficult to fit on any set. Incorrectly predicting can lead to the opponent boosting freely, spreading status, or phazing out Ursaring, so it is rather risky. When paired with Berserk Gene, Hyper Beam is an extremely powerful STAB move that can land a surprise KO on Pokemon that stay in on Ursaring. However, using Hyper Beam immediately renders Ursaring immobile for a single turn, which can give the opponent a free turn to set up boosts, set up Spikes, or status Ursaring. Berserk Gene also has the issue of confusion, which can hurt Ursaring quite a bit if it is unlucky. Thief hinders some of Ursaring's common checks and counters such as Skarmory and Steelix by removing their Leftovers to reduce their longevity, something that Kangaskhan and Snorlax cannot do. However, Thief is very weak and is only able to be used once before becoming useless. (add period)

Checks and Counters
===================

**Steel-types**: Forretress, Steelix, and Skarmory completely wall any of Ursaring's sets barring its mixed set. Steelix has such high bulk that it takes Ursaring two Curse boosts just to 2HKO it with Earthquake, and Steelix can retaliate by phazing or setting up on Ursaring. Skarmory laughs at Ursaring's Return and is immune to Earthquake. Skarmory can phaze Ursaring in return, which can be an issue for Ursaring, (AC) as it lacks the bulk and resistances to switch in often. Forretress takes neutral damage from Earthquake and requires Ursaring to use Curse four times to get a guaranteed 2HKO. Forretress can also set up Spikes or and cripple Ursaring with Toxic.

**Rock-types**: If Ursaring is not running Earthquake, it is walled by popular Rock-types such as Tyranitar and Rhydon. These Pokemon are also able to threaten Ursaring with their high Attack and STAB moves.

**Cloyster**: Cloyster can take advantage of Ursaring by easily tanking its attacks, setting up Spikes, and hitting it with using Toxic or Surf on it (you don't really "hit" someone with toxic) before either using Explosion or switching to the appropriate counter to Ursaring.

**Miltank and Umbreon**: Due to Ursaring's lack of access to Body Slam and Double-Edge, it doesn't have a STAB option that would allow it to potentially get past Miltank or Umbreon. They can negate any Attack boosts with Growl or Charm and heal off any damage, allowing both to run Ursaring out of PP or weaken it for a teammate to finish it off.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Oldamar999, 453750]]
- Quality checked by: [[Earthworm, 15210], [Jorgen, 53302]] (fixed credit issues)
- Grammar checked by: [[, ], [, ]]
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GP 2/2
[OVERVIEW]
Ursaring has the highest Attack stat of any Normal-type (AH) at base 130, allowing it to KO some Pokemon that its main competitors Snorlax and Kangaskhan cannot. It also has a decent Special Attack and special movepool, letting it be perform as a niche mixed attacker. Unfortunately, Ursaring's positives end there, as it still faces far too much competition in all of its roles. It faces fierce competition from Other Normal-types such as Porygon2, Snorlax, and even Tauros, all of which mostly outclass Ursaring due to their superior bulk, coverage, or Speed. As a Curse phazer, Ursaring is usually outdone by Rhydon and Kangaskhan, where the former sports better physical bulk and a Ground / Rock typing and the latter making up for its worse Attack with better overall bulk, allowing it to stay in longer. Ursaring's subpar bulk and Normal typing also provides provide its team with no useful defensive utility, and since Snorlax is often considered mandatory on OU teams, both can create a big Fighting-type weakness for its team together. Due to these traits, Ursaring should rarely, if ever, be considered on a serious team.

[SET]
name: Cursaring
move 1: Curse
move 2: Return
move 3: Earthquake / Rest
move 4: Roar
item: Leftovers


[SET COMMENTS]
Set Details
========
Curse raises Ursaring's Attack and Defense by one stage and also lowers its Speed by one stage, allowing it to potentially phaze other Roar users such as Steelix while being able to deal and withstand more damage. Return is Ursaring's strongest STAB move and can do a considerable amount of damage to anything that doesn't resist it. Earthquake gives Ursaring coverage to help take down Rock-types that would otherwise wall it. Roar allows Ursaring to beat enemy Curse users as long as it gets a Curse boost first. Because phazing moves only work when they go second, With the Speed drop from Curse, (dex info + repeated basically) Roar also allows Ursaring with the Speed drop from Curse to get around Pokemon that would otherwise counter it through phazing such as Skarmory. However, this strategy is ruined if Ursaring gets poisoned, so it can elect to use Rest instead of Earthquake. If it selects Roar while asleep and is slower, it will still block enemy phazing attempts. Leftovers gives Ursaring essential passive recovery. This set faces heavy competition for a team slot teamslot from Kangaskhan, whose superior bulk better suits the Curse phazer role and mostly makes up for its significantly lower Attack stat.


[SET]
name: RestTalk
move 1: Return
move 2: Curse
move 3: Rest
move 4: Sleep Talk
item: Leftovers

[SET COMMENTS]
Set Details
========
Rest fully restores Ursaring's health, and Sleep Talk randomly selects a move to take advantage of the two-turn (AH) sleep caused by Rest. Return is once again Ursaring's strongest STAB attack and most efficient move, but Earthquake can be run to hit Steel- and Rock-types that would otherwise wall it. Curse increases Ursaring's bulk and power at the cost of Speed. Sadly, Ursaring is completely outclassed as a RestTalk user by Snorlax because, despite its higher Attack, Ursaring is not bulky enough to effectively wall any threat and lacks Double-Edge or Body Slam. Ursaring also does not effectively work as a substitute for Curse Snorlax due to these traits.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============
A mixed attacker set with Return / Earthquake / Dynamic Punch with Fire Punch, Thunder Punch, or Zap Cannon can be run. However, this set is mostly outclassed by Snorlax and Porygon2, which have better bulk and access to Flamethrower and Fire Blast for the former and Ice Beam for the latter, though Dynamic Punch has the benefit of KOing Tyranitar, which Porygon2 struggles to do. Counter takes advantage of Ursaring's rather average bulk to potentially KO threats such as Skarmory and Steelix at +1 Attack, (technically refers to boosted Ursaring rn which idk if makes too much sense) but this can take the slot of an important move, so it is difficult to fit on any set. Incorrectly predicting can lead to the opponent boosting freely, spreading status, or phazing out Ursaring, so it is rather risky. When paired with Berserk Gene, Hyper Beam is an extremely powerful STAB move that can land a surprise KO on Pokemon that stay in on Ursaring. However, using Hyper Beam immediately renders Ursaring immobile for a single turn, which can give the opponent a free turn to set up boosts boost, set up Spikes, or status Ursaring. Berserk Gene also has the issue of confusion, which can hurt Ursaring quite a bit if it is unlucky. Thief hinders some of Ursaring's common checks and counters such as Skarmory and Steelix by removing their Leftovers to reduce their longevity, something that Kangaskhan and Snorlax cannot do. However, Thief is very weak and is only able to be used once before becoming useless.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Steel-types**: Forretress, Steelix, and Skarmory completely wall any of Ursaring's sets barring its mixed set. Steelix has such high bulk that it takes Ursaring two Curse boosts just to 2HKO it with Earthquake, and Steelix can retaliate by phazing or setting up on Ursaring. Skarmory laughs at Ursaring's Return and is immune to Earthquake. Skarmory can phaze Ursaring in return, which can be an issue for Ursaring, as it lacks the bulk and resistances to switch in often. Forretress takes neutral damage from Earthquake and requires Ursaring to use Curse four times to get a guaranteed 2HKO. Forretress can also set up Spikes and cripple Ursaring with Toxic.

**Rock-types**: If Ursaring is not running Earthquake, it is walled by popular Rock-types such as Tyranitar and Rhydon. These Pokemon are also able to threaten Ursaring with their high Attack and STAB moves.

**Cloyster**: Cloyster can take advantage of Ursaring by easily tanking its attacks, setting up Spikes, and using Toxic or Surf on it before either using Explosion or switching to the appropriate counter to Ursaring.

**Miltank and Umbreon**: Due to Ursaring's lack of access to Body Slam and Double-Edge, it doesn't have a STAB option that would allow it to potentially get past Miltank or Umbreon. They can negate any Attack boosts with Growl or Charm and heal off any damage, allowing both to run Ursaring out of PP or weaken it for a teammate to finish it off.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Oldamar999,453750]]
- Quality checked by: [[Earthworm.15210], [Jorgen.53302]]
- Grammar checked by: [[Estronic,240732], [, ]]
 
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GP 2/2
[OVERVIEW]
Ursaring has the highest Attack stat of any Normal-type (AH) at base 130, allowing it to KO some Pokemon that its main competitors Snorlax and Kangaskhan cannot. It also has a decent Special Attack and special movepool, letting it be perform as a niche mixed attacker. Unfortunately, Ursaring's positives end there, as it still faces far too much competition in all of its roles. It faces fierce competition from Other Normal-types such as Porygon2, Snorlax, and even Tauros, all of which mostly outclass Ursaring due to their superior bulk, coverage, or Speed. As a Curse phazer, Ursaring is usually outdone by Rhydon and Kangaskhan, where the former sports better physical bulk and a Ground / Rock typing and the latter making up for its worse Attack with better overall bulk, allowing it to stay in longer. Ursaring's subpar bulk and Normal typing also provides provide its team with no useful defensive utility, and since Snorlax is often considered mandatory on OU teams, both can create a big Fighting-type weakness for its team together. Due to these traits, Ursaring should rarely, if ever, be considered on a serious team.

[SET]
name: Cursaring
move 1: Curse
move 2: Return
move 3: Earthquake / Rest
move 4: Roar
item: Leftovers


[SET COMMENTS]
Set Details
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Curse raises Ursaring's Attack and Defense by one stage and also lowers its Speed by one stage, allowing it to potentially phaze other Roar users such as Steelix while being able to deal and withstand more damage. Return is Ursaring's strongest STAB move and can do a considerable amount of damage to anything that doesn't resist it. Earthquake gives Ursaring coverage to help take down Rock-types that would otherwise wall it. Roar allows Ursaring to beat enemy Curse users as long as it gets a Curse boost first. Because phazing moves only work when they go second, With the Speed drop from Curse, (dex info + repeated basically) Roar also allows Ursaring with the Speed drop from Curse to get around Pokemon that would otherwise counter it through phazing such as Skarmory. However, this strategy is ruined if Ursaring gets poisoned, so it can elect to use Rest instead of Earthquake. If it selects Roar while asleep and is slower, it will still block enemy phazing attempts. Leftovers gives Ursaring essential passive recovery. This set faces heavy competition for a team slot teamslot from Kangaskhan, whose superior bulk better suits the Curse phazer role and mostly makes up for its significantly lower Attack stat.


[SET]
name: RestTalk
move 1: Return
move 2: Curse
move 3: Rest
move 4: Sleep Talk
item: Leftovers

[SET COMMENTS]
Set Details
========
Rest fully restores Ursaring's health, and Sleep Talk randomly selects a move to take advantage of the two-turn (AH) sleep caused by Rest. Return is once again Ursaring's strongest STAB attack and most efficient move, but Earthquake can be run to hit Steel- and Rock-types that would otherwise wall it. Curse increases Ursaring's bulk and power at the cost of Speed. Sadly, Ursaring is completely outclassed as a RestTalk user by Snorlax because, despite its higher Attack, Ursaring is not bulky enough to effectively wall any threat and lacks Double-Edge or Body Slam. Ursaring also does not effectively work as a substitute for Curse Snorlax due to these traits.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
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A mixed attacker set with Return / Earthquake / Dynamic Punch with Fire Punch, Thunder Punch, or Zap Cannon can be run. However, this set is mostly outclassed by Snorlax and Porygon2, which have better bulk and access to Flamethrower and Fire Blast for the former and Ice Beam for the latter, though Dynamic Punch has the benefit of KOing Tyranitar, which Porygon2 struggles to do. Counter takes advantage of Ursaring's rather average bulk to potentially KO threats such as Skarmory and Steelix at +1 Attack, (technically refers to boosted Ursaring rn which idk if makes too much sense) but this can take the slot of an important move, so it is difficult to fit on any set. Incorrectly predicting can lead to the opponent boosting freely, spreading status, or phazing out Ursaring, so it is rather risky. When paired with Berserk Gene, Hyper Beam is an extremely powerful STAB move that can land a surprise KO on Pokemon that stay in on Ursaring. However, using Hyper Beam immediately renders Ursaring immobile for a single turn, which can give the opponent a free turn to set up boosts boost, set up Spikes, or status Ursaring. Berserk Gene also has the issue of confusion, which can hurt Ursaring quite a bit if it is unlucky. Thief hinders some of Ursaring's common checks and counters such as Skarmory and Steelix by removing their Leftovers to reduce their longevity, something that Kangaskhan and Snorlax cannot do. However, Thief is very weak and is only able to be used once before becoming useless.

Checks and Counters
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**Steel-types**: Forretress, Steelix, and Skarmory completely wall any of Ursaring's sets barring its mixed set. Steelix has such high bulk that it takes Ursaring two Curse boosts just to 2HKO it with Earthquake, and Steelix can retaliate by phazing or setting up on Ursaring. Skarmory laughs at Ursaring's Return and is immune to Earthquake. Skarmory can phaze Ursaring in return, which can be an issue for Ursaring, as it lacks the bulk and resistances to switch in often. Forretress takes neutral damage from Earthquake and requires Ursaring to use Curse four times to get a guaranteed 2HKO. Forretress can also set up Spikes and cripple Ursaring with Toxic.

**Rock-types**: If Ursaring is not running Earthquake, it is walled by popular Rock-types such as Tyranitar and Rhydon. These Pokemon are also able to threaten Ursaring with their high Attack and STAB moves.

**Cloyster**: Cloyster can take advantage of Ursaring by easily tanking its attacks, setting up Spikes, and using Toxic or Surf on it before either using Explosion or switching to the appropriate counter to Ursaring.

**Miltank and Umbreon**: Due to Ursaring's lack of access to Body Slam and Double-Edge, it doesn't have a STAB option that would allow it to potentially get past Miltank or Umbreon. They can negate any Attack boosts with Growl or Charm and heal off any damage, allowing both to run Ursaring out of PP or weaken it for a teammate to finish it off.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Oldamar999,453750]]
- Quality checked by: [[Earthworm.15210], [Jorgen.53302]]
- Grammar checked by: [[Estronic,240732], [, ]]
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Thanks! this is done and ready for upload Oglemi Jellicent
 
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