Trick Room team

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Alright, so this is one of my first ever RMTs so bear with me here.

Intro For a while I've been wanting to try out a TR team mostly because they seem like so much fun and because I'm always getting beaten with them(lol) But I haven't really had the chance to until recently. Also, with the release of Reuniclus and Ferrothorn, a pair that go so well together on a TR team, I decided to give it a go.

Individual Pokemon Evaluation

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Bronzong is obviously the lead for this team. It has the ability to come in and quickly set up with TR while being able to resist just about any attack. Sadly, mine was hatched in the 5th Gen so no SR for me but I can work around that little setback.

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Reuniclus. That evil little psychic type. It's bulk along with it's amazing special attack and low speed make it the perfect choice for any TR team. Magic Guard grants recoil free L/O use which just makes it all the more desirable. It's few weaknesses allow it to set up TR if need be and then just attack, attack, attack.

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And now we come to Ferrothorn. Honestly, what is a Reuniclus without a Ferrothorn? I first saw this combo used on PO and because of it I was pwnd. Ferrothorn covers all of Reuniclus' few weaknesses and can easily switch in to any of its counters. Ferrothorn is also useful for setting up entry hazards since I obviously blew that opportunity with Bronzong.

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Ah yes, Haxorus. I know what you're thinking, why run a Haxy on a TR team? And truth be told, I'm afraid I'll lose my pokemon who know the move. If that were to be the case I'd have a team left full of bulky yet really slow pokemon. Haxorus fixes this problem with it's nice speed and monstrous attack. Haxy also covers the fire problems that I have with Bronzong and Ferrothorn.

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Gigalith is here mainly because I needed another slow, pokemon that could be defensive and something that wasn't weak to fire. Sturdy ability and monstrous defense make this pokemon real hard to take down. With the fighting and ground weaknesses, I always have my good friend Reuniclus for such a situation. Or even Ferrothorn will work.

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And finally, the last pokemon I've decided to use, is Vaporeon. Vaporeon is a nice little support to have around and can counter those nasty, nasty fire types that can rip my Bronzong and Ferrothorn to shreds. It's also good against ground types that threaten Gigalith. Of course, all the lovely little threats that Vaporeon has to put up with in this generation are going to be a problem indeed, but I believe I can use this poke to it's full potential.

Strategy
Alright, so lets get down to the individual strategies for each of these pokemon.

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Species: Bronzong
Position: Lead
@ Leftovers
Nature: Brave
Ability: Levitate
-Trick Room
-Gyro Ball
-Hypnosis
-Earthquake
IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/0
EVs: 252 HP/252 Atk./4 Def

Yeah, like I said, I blew my SR chance on this one. But Bronzong can still make a great lead as it has many resistances. After it sets up with TR and Hypno, it can just kill with either of it's attacks.

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Species: Reuniclus
Position: Special Sweep
@ Life Orb
Nature: Quiet
Ability: Magic Guard
-Trick Room
-Psycho Shock
-Shadow Ball
-Focus Blast
IVs: x/x/x/x/x/0
EVs: 252 SpA/252 HP/4 SpD

My special sweep with TR in case the twisted dimensions get returned to normal while I'm sweeping. Psycho Shock over Psychic in case of Chansey/Blissey, and Focus Blast over Protect because I wanted it to be more of a sweeper.
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Species: Ferrothorn
Position: Support/Physical Sweep
@Leftovers
Nature: Relaxed
Ability: Iron Barbs
-Substitute
-Leech Seed
-Power Whip
-Gyro Ball
IVs: x/x/x/x/x/0
EVs: 252 HP/208 SpD/48 Atk

My Physi Sweep/annoying substitute thing. I like Sub over Protect because if I'm going to be faster because of TR Substitute will protect me. Besides, unless Ferrothorn gets hit by a fire type attack, or a really powerful neutral damage one then the Sub will survive. Therefore I can protect myself and sweep with my monstrous attack. I chose to EV in attack instead of defense because I wanted more of a sweeper than a defensive pokemon.

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Species: Haxorus
Position: Alternate Physical Sweep
@Choice Band(Life Orb??)
Nature: Adamant
Ability: Mold Breaker
-Dragon Claw
-Earthquake
-Outrage
-Rock Slide
IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/31
EVs: 252 Atk/ 220 Spe/ 36 HP

My only fast pokemon. When it first came out everything about it screamed BROKEN! to me. However, since for now it is currently OU I've decided to take advantage of it. Choice Band makes its awesome attack all the more better but I'm wondering whether or not a L/O will be better since I'm only running one fast poke and I might want to switch moves every now and again.

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Species: Gigalith
Position: Physical Wall
@Leftovers
Nature: Brave
Ability: Sturdy
-Protect
-Trick Room
-Rock Slide
-Explosion
IVs: x/x/x/x/x/0
EVs: 252 HP/208 Atk/48 SpD

Wanted to make this pokemon more wallish, thus the more EVs in SpD(and the Leftovers). I was looking to put some Def. EVs in there too but not exactly sure what to sacrifice for those.

and last but not least

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Species: Vaporeon
Position: Support
@Leftovers
Nature: Bold
Ability: Water Absorb
-Wish
-Protect
-Scald
-Toxic
IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/0
EVs: 248 HP/252 Def/8 SpD

This one is more or less around to just help out. Wish revives health, Scald is a nice new move to have and Toxic because I like the poisoning effect.

Conclusion
So that's my team. All in all I think it's one of the best I've ever made; especially considering I hate the 5th Gen >.< Feel free to tear it to shreds and whatnot :P

Thanks!
 
Swords dance scizor could be a problem for this team.

You could tell him how to fix that...

Anyways cool team, I have some suggestions

- on Bronzong I would replace Hypnosis with Stealth Rock just for accuracy purposes

- That Ferrothorn is kind of weird for a trick room team. I recommend Scizor in his spot. Scizor pretty slow 0 Speed IVs/EVs and he has priority if you ever need it.

- I really think you could do better with Gigaliths slot. He not really doing much for you team. Rhyperior is a beast under TR

move 1: Stone Edge
move 2: Earthquake
move 3: Megahorn
move 4: Aqua Tail / Avalanche
item: Life Orb/Leftovers
ability: Solid Rock
nature: Brave
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def

- if you replace Gigalith, I advise using Slowbro over Vaporeon for another TR set up guy

name: Trick Room
move 1: Trick Room
move 2: Boil Over / Surf
move 3: Flamethrower / Psycho Shcok
move 4: Slack Off
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Regeneration
Nature: Relaxed
Evs.: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
IVs.: 0 Spe IVs

gl! sorry if I'm trying to change your team to much
 
I agree with Brizznetz on this one. Slowbro has great physical bulk which you need as you have plenty of special bulk in Ferro/Reuniclus. Also, Regen is a great ability. I would recommend swapping haxorus for another TR user? The standard is that you have 2 pokes with trick room and one "backup"

I reccommend you use a Victini With TR, 0 speed IV's and max HP and Attack (adamant) with V-create, TR, fusion bolt and a coverage move. This works because its at an average speed with 0 IV's and V-Create lowers your speed, therefore raising it under TR, does that make sense?
 
Um gigalith cannot learn trick room. I would suggest another physical wall that can like maybe dusclops

[SET]
Name: Pain Split
Move 1: Pain Split
Move 2: Will-o-Wisp
Move 3: Trick room
Move 4: Night Shade
Item: Eviolite
Nature: Careful
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 Def / 252 SpD
The guy can set up TR take a hit much better, heal with pain split cripple physical attackers with willo wisp and deal consistent damage with night shade.


On haxorus i would try this set

Haxorus (M) @ Choice Band
Ability: Mold Breaker
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SpA)
- Outrage
- Earthquake
- Brick Break
- Dual Chop
O yah this is from PK gamings enter the dragon Outrage kills pretty much everythink that doesnt resist it. Eq kills steel types. Brick Break by Ttar. Dual chop kills substitute users.

Maybe instead of vaporeon go with Brizznets rhyperior as you are getting plenty of extra bulk from dusclops.

These are only suggestions and you dont have to take them if you dont like them
 
Alright...yeah just realized a couple mistakes in the original thread; Gigalith can't learn TR, I simply had it in my brain and put it down as a move :P and secondly I go and say how Ferrothorn can set up hazard entries and then don't even give him spikes or something...I'm so smart(not) >.<

@Mournful: How?? I don't know Scizor too well in 5G....but it is a beast in 4G..hmmm

@Brizznetz: Thing with Bronzong is, it was hatched in 5G so it can't learn SR. I could RNG another in 4G I guess....but I'm being lazy so...

How would you recommend fixing Ferrothorn so that it would fit with the team? I really would like to use it because it just works with Reuniclus.

Ah yes, Rhyperior. Actually, I didn't really want to use Gigalith and the whole time I was making this thread I KNEW that there was something better but I couldn't remember what. Thanks for that.

Slowbro is another good suggestion...I'll look into it.

@Browners: Hmmmm..never thought of Victini that way...I'm just wondering how to get V-create now :P I really think I should keep the Haxorus though...if I do put Slowbro on the team that's 3 TR users right there. And because I can't get a V-create Victini yet...well, it's something to think about.

@chaotictyranitar: Interesting Haxorus set...perhaps I'll try that instead.
 
Why does your Ferrothorn have such high speed in a Trick Room Team? It's speed is so low that any increase wouldn't make any difference. Invest the EVs into your Attack for a Sweeper Ferrothorn, thus your Gyro Ball can be maximized to full power
An alternative for Haxorus would be to put a Dragonite with 0 Speed IV and EV. Its slow enough to be on a Trick Room team, and if your Trick Rooms run out, Extremespeed can still get the first move in, and Dragonite has a wider move pool than Haxorus, without compromising Attack.
Just a footnote, Gigalith has much higher attack than Ferrothorn, while Ferrothorn has fewer weaknesses, more resistances and a more balanced def and sp.def. Maybe you could shift the roles of them around?
 
I didn't put any speed EVs on Ferrothorn....just Special Defense, HP, and Attack.

Dragonite for Haxorus actually doesn't sound like a bad idea...I'll look into that.
 
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