Trick Room Jirachi

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alex 67

http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/jirachi
Status: Skeleton
[SET]
name:Trick Room Jirachi
move 1:Trick room
move 2:Healing wish/U-Turn
move 3:Psychic
move 4:Thunderbolt
item: Life orb
ability:Serene Grace
Nature:Quiet
Evs:252 HP/252 SpA/4 Def
Ivs:30 Atk/0 Spe

Why this deserves to be on-site:
-Can easily run through the rest of a team mid-game to late game
-With bulk provided,decent defensive typing resistance to stealth rock and immunity to sandstorm makes it easy enough to set trick room up
-Is different from other trick roomers because it can heal another pokemon should its sweep fail or has the option of sacrificing its self right away passing on the trick room to another pokemon and even though this will cost turns of trick room it will not need all that if you get OHKOS and makes predicting harder for opponent
-Attacking combination is only resisted by magnezone in OU

Additional Comments:
-While 100 base speed may seem too fast when at minimum speed it reaches 181 speed which is very slow in OU as it is very fast paced with choice scarfs revenge killers on almoset every offensive team
-Should only be used mid-game to late-game because it lacks wallbreaking power
-Loves entry hazards to have an easier sweep
-Can run a attacking move over healing wish if you want a One Man Army

Teammates and Counters:
-Magnezone,Blissey and snorlax are the banes of this set
-Infernape is a good wallbreaker that has little trouble with those three however Infernape does not enjoy twisted dimensions
-Heatran is an excellent teamate as it can roast Magnezone take the fire attack as Jirachi uses Healing wish and be in excellent posistion with full health and flash fire boost though they are both weak to ground attacks sadly
-Dragonite is another good partner type wise, is rather slow and is often being crippled with will o wisps making healing wish even better
-Pretty much any slow and powerful sweeper
 
put u-turn and max speed on there so you can get your sweepers in for free. That's really the only point of using jirachi over a slower psychic that can also trick room.
 
MegaKick said:
put u-turn and max speed on there so you can get your sweepers in for free. That's really the only point of using jirachi over a slower psychic that can also trick room.
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Max speed is a bad idea for a trick roomer and say if you were using heatran than the fire woulf be beneficial even though this may be a somewhat rare scenario but this Jirachi is meant to clean up when the really strong walls are gone and going last with max speed is a bad idea. I do like U-turn however getting your pokemon in without switching or sacrificing yourself as you may attempt to start up the sweep again so I will slash it in.
 
What MegaKick said. Jirachi has enough bulk to really be good at setting up trickroom and then having a "slow" U-turn to get in your frail slow sweepers in for free. Jirachi is too fast to sweep under trick room conditions and does not have enough power.

If heatran is substitute then there is no way to outspeed it during trickroom and if it is scarved then you outspeed it anyways.

Also for the attacking options (if you are using two) Flash cannon and HP ground would be your better bet. Flash cannon is your stab and HP ground covers the electrics, fires, and steels that come in and hits water types for neutral damage.

What I recommend doing for your the moves are:

Trick room
U-turn
Flash Cannon
Wish / HP Ground

Jirachi isn't fit for sweeping under trick room, with this setup he can take a hit and u-turn to your sweeper leaving them unscathed. HP ground is there to hit some things that like to come in on jirachi like heatran and infernape and KO them but note that you should be careful of heatran which is usually not scarved anymore
 
Ill wait for QC opinion I'm not saying you should trying to be running through walls with this I'm saying that in can sweep Mid or late game because A major walls and magnezone would be down and B I mentioned entry hazards also so with life orb this should be enough to sweep weakened or frail pokemon.
 
This has nothing over Bronzong. It has more weaknesses, less power (STAB 150 BP Gyro Ball going first under TR is awesome, esp with EQ to back it up), and no Explosion. It's also "outsped" by many walls, which hurts its effectiveness. I'm gonna have to say no here.
 
I've used Trick Room Jirachi before, but as a lead rather than a late-game cleaner. I'm skeptical as to the effectiveness of this set due to lack of raw power (as you said yourself), and a late-game cleaner for a Trick Room team should either be a Choice Scarf user or a leftover sweeper rather than a mixture of setter and "sweeper". Imo the best set for supporting Trick Room Jirachi is Trick Room/Stealth Rock/U-turn/Iron Head or something similar and used as a lead since Trick Room is the last thing people expect from Jirachi leads (and even if they do it's pretty reliable since it can U-turn out).
 
alex 67 said:
Max speed is a bad idea for a trick roomer
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Not always. If you have a "slower" U-turn, you bring in your TR sweeper for free. Jirachi's 100 Special Attack doesn't make it a particularly effective late game cleaner, especially with only two moves. I'd rather just use a regular Starmie, which has speed, no turns of setup, and better coverage.

Setting aside that Trick Room is basically a gimmick strategy, this is even bad for Trick Room standards.
 
I'm doubting this set's effectiveness. Can you please provide us with logs from different battles in which you use this set? I would like to see a row of consecutive logs, not only parts that show Jirachi sweeping 2-3 Pokemon.
 
Seven Deadly Sins said:
This has nothing over Bronzong. It has more weaknesses, less power (STAB 150 BP Gyro Ball going first under TR is awesome, esp with EQ to back it up), and no Explosion. It's also "outsped" by many walls, which hurts its effectiveness. I'm gonna have to say no here.
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Are you serious? First of all before I say anything trick room bronzong is walled by skarmory,all rotom, other bronzong and even semi bulky pokemon not weak to any of its moves. It is also super vulnerable to burn and intimidate and also has rather low attack for a sweeper even if it has this "awesome" gyro ball it does not have particularly "awesome attack". Jirachi can also get out without switching or sacrificing its self and explosion is risky because of the popularity of rotom. The only really important thing is maybe being outsped by walls but thats what wallbreakers are for before you use trick room . So to say no because it is outclassed by bronzong isnt a very legit point.

TanzAufDemVulkan said:
I've used Trick Room Jirachi before, but as a lead rather than a late-game cleaner. I'm skeptical as to the effectiveness of this set due to lack of raw power (as you said yourself), and a late-game cleaner for a Trick Room team should either be a Choice Scarf user or a leftover sweeper rather than a mixture of setter and "sweeper". Imo the best set for supporting Trick Room Jirachi is Trick Room/Stealth Rock/U-turn/Iron Head or something similar and used as a lead since Trick Room is the last thing people expect from Jirachi leads (and even if they do it's pretty reliable since it can U-turn out).
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If things are weakened which they generally are late game then you don't need raw power

Chris is me said:
Not always. If you have a "slower" U-turn, you bring in your TR sweeper for free. Jirachi's 100 Special Attack doesn't make it a particularly effective late game cleaner, especially with only two moves. I'd rather just use a regular Starmie, which has speed, no turns of setup, and better coverage.

Setting aside that Trick Room is basically a gimmick strategy, this is even bad for Trick Room standards.
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Then use starmie but there are still lots of scarf pokemon hanging around

Setsuna. said:
I'm doubting this set's effectiveness. Can you please provide us with logs from different battles in which you use this set? I would like to see a row of consecutive logs, not only parts that show Jirachi sweeping 2-3 Pokemon.
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Ill see what I can do but how many consecutive logs do you want?
 
Lately, I played quite a lot with Trick Room and TR teams, because offensive TR Bronzong inspired me to do so and it gave me a better view on Trick Room. I began to test several Pokémon with TR and their offensive abuse of TR - including Jirachi.

I can assure you that Jirachi (offensive TR) is truly underwhelming (compared to other TR users) for various reasons:
-Jirachi is too fast with it's 100 base speed, as it only manages to reach 181 speed without a speed lowering item. So basically anything that has 71 base speed or lower, while not investing in Spe-EVs / nature will outspeed you under the effect of Trick Room. That includes many walls, that Jirachi hates to meet.
-Jirachi lacks power: 100 base attack / special attack are mediocre at best, more important is the lack of powerful STAB, or powerful attacks at all.

Basically, you often set up TR for your opponent and Jirachi can't deal (as you call it) with "semi-bulky" things. Also, from my experience several Pokémon do the job of an offensive TR user better than Jirachi. Most notably Bronzong, as well Slowbro / Slowking / Gallade / Porygon-Z / Exeggutor / Celebi and Mesprit, while the latter two are also kinda lacking. However, Exeggutor and PZ are surprisingly good offensive users of TR.

If you want to use Jirachi as a TR user, you should concentrate on it's unique traits. In the case of Jirachi it's most notably Wish, U-Turn, SR and also it's decent typing and good bulk. You could also use an lure-in and kill set on Jirachi focusing on Trick Room, if you want to beat common switch-ins to Jirachi, as example HP Ground for Heatran, Magnezone and maybe Infernape, Thunderbolt for Gyarados, as well Skarmory, etc. Still full of flaws.


Anyway, Bronzong is way better. Gyro Ball has usually 225 base attack after STAB, hurting quite a lot, even coming out of Bronzong's pitty attack. EQ gives good coverage and Explosion is for eleminating bulky waters. Pokémon that you mentioned that can usually deal with Bronzong give a free switch to Heatran, who also loves outspeeding things under the effect of TR and being able to carry LO and a positive nature and getting a free Flash Fire boost, because of Bronzong. One hand washes the other. Simple.

Jirachi doesn't come close to the damage output and the "speed" of Bronzong, also it has worse synergy, worse typing, same bulk (which is actually worse, because you have to use LO, to deal siginificent damage), etc. Not only Bronzong outclasses this set, also the stuff I mentioned above. Obviously Jirachi has some small advantages over Bronzong, as it can beat some Pokémon Bronzong can't, most notably Skarmory. Still, it's not enough to justify it's existence over Bronzong.

-0²
 
@alex 67: Just a few battles, consecutive battles in which you show how Jirachi plays the role of a TR user in front of the different type of teams out there.
 
-0² said:
Lately, I played quite a lot with Trick Room and TR teams, because offensive TR Bronzong inspired me to do so and it gave me a better view on Trick Room. I began to test several Pokémon with TR and their offensive abuse of TR - including Jirachi.

I can assure you that Jirachi (offensive TR) is truly underwhelming (compared to other TR users) for various reasons:
-Jirachi is too fast with it's 100 base speed, as it only manages to reach 181 speed without a speed lowering item. So basically anything that has 71 base speed or lower, while not investing in Spe-EVs / nature will outspeed you under the effect of Trick Room. That includes many walls, that Jirachi hates to meet.
-Jirachi lacks power: 100 base attack / special attack are mediocre at best, more important is the lack of powerful STAB, or powerful attacks at all.

Basically, you often set up TR for your opponent and Jirachi can't deal (as you call it) with "semi-bulky" things. Also, from my experience several Pokémon do the job of an offensive TR user better than Jirachi. Most notably Bronzong, as well Slowbro / Slowking / Gallade / Porygon-Z / Exeggutor / Celebi and Mesprit, while the latter two are also kinda lacking. However, Exeggutor and PZ are surprisingly good offensive users of TR.

If you want to use Jirachi as a TR user, you should concentrate on it's unique traits. In the case of Jirachi it's most notably Wish, U-Turn, SR and also it's decent typing and good bulk. You could also use an lure-in and kill set on Jirachi focusing on Trick Room, if you want to beat common switch-ins to Jirachi, as example HP Ground for Heatran, Magnezone and maybe Infernape, Thunderbolt for Gyarados, as well Skarmory, etc. Still full of flaws.


Anyway, Bronzong is way better. Gyro Ball has usually 225 base attack after STAB, hurting quite a lot, even coming out of Bronzong's pitty attack. EQ gives good coverage and Explosion is for eleminating bulky waters. Pokémon that you mentioned that can usually deal with Bronzong give a free switch to Heatran, who also loves outspeeding things under the effect of TR and being able to carry LO and a positive nature and getting a free Flash Fire boost, because of Bronzong. One hand washes the other. Simple.

Jirachi doesn't come close to the damage output and the "speed" of Bronzong, also it has worse synergy, worse typing, worse bulk, etc. Not only Bronzong outclasses this set, also the stuff I mentioned above. Obviously Jirachi has some small advantages over Bronzong, as it can beat some Pokémon Bronzong can't, most notably Skarmory. Still, it's not enough to justify it's existence over Bronzong.

-0²
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First of all I did not mention anything about using this to sweep entire teams! Yes he is a little "slow under trick room but the only things that are faster then him under TR would be walls. Thats why I mentioned wallbreakers. Lets take my favorite one Infernape for example. The two major special walls that would be the best possible counter to this set would be Snorlax and Blissey, I also mentioned using it late game (which means they would weak to the point that with entry hazard damage will be unable to wall Jirachi or Koed all together. Sure Bronzong may seem way bulkier which is wrong if you look at its hp which is 33 base points lower then Jirachi. Also I'm not saying this beats bronzong in every situation but it is far from being inferior in every situation. Finally get your facts straight skarmory is no where near as common as Rotom-A so Skarmory isnt most notably and the list is still long after that. Gliscor, forretress,Hippopowdon and the list goes on. The list of checks and counter for TR Jirachi is shorter then TR bronzong
 
Logs were requested two weeks ago, or more, but the author has not responded back yet. I´m giving this thread 48 hours extra for the sake of fulfilling with what´s been demanded. If this deadline is reached without any sign of logs, I will lock this topic under inactivity.
 
e, Freeze Clause, OHKO Clause, Evasion Clause, Species Clause, Strict Damage Clause
hylian sent out Froslass (lvl 100 Froslass ?).
alex 67 sent out Aerodactyl (lvl 100 Aerodactyl ?).
Aerodactyl is exertRules: Ladder Match, Sleep Clausing its pressure!
Aerodactyl used Taunt.
Froslass fell for the taunt!
Froslass used Ice Beam.
It's super effective!
Aerodactyl lost 100% of its health.
Aerodactyl hung on using its Focus Sash!
---
Aerodactyl used Stealth Rock.
Pointed stones float in the air around the foe's team!
Froslass used Ice Beam.
It's super effective!
Aerodactyl lost 0% of its health.
alex 67's Aerodactyl fainted.
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alex 67 switched in Heatran (lvl 100 Heatran ?).
hylian switched in Swampert (lvl 100 Swampert ?).
Pointed stones dug into Swampert.
Swampert lost 6% of its health.
Heatran used Fire Blast.
It's not very effective...
Swampert lost 36% of its health.
Heatran lost 10% of its health.
Swampert's leftovers restored its health a little!
Swampert restored 6% of its health.
---
alex 67 switched in Gengar (lvl 100 Gengar ?).
Swampert used Stealth Rock.
Pointed stones float in the air around the foe's team!
Swampert's leftovers restored its health a little!
Swampert restored 6% of its health.
---
hylian switched in Tentacruel (lvl 100 Tentacruel ?).
Pointed stones dug into Tentacruel.
Tentacruel lost 12% of its health.
Gengar used Shadow Ball.
Tentacruel lost 27% of its health.
Tentacruel's special defence was lowered.
Tentacruel's leftovers restored its health a little!
Tentacruel restored 6% of its health.
---
alex 67 switched in Jirachi (lvl 100 Jirachi).
Pointed stones dug into Jirachi.
Jirachi lost 6% of its health.
Tentacruel used Toxic Spikes.
Toxic Spikes were scattered around the foe's team!
Tentacruel's leftovers restored its health a little!
Tentacruel restored 6% of its health.
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Tentacruel used Rapid Spin.
Tentacruel blew away the pointed stones!
It's not very effective...
Jirachi lost 1% of its health.
Jirachi used Psychic.
It's super effective!
Tentacruel lost 72% of its health.
hylian's Tentacruel fainted.
Jirachi lost 10% of its health.
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hylian switched in Froslass (lvl 100 Froslass ?).
Froslass used Spikes.
Spikes were scattered around the foe's team!
Jirachi used Trick Room.
Jirachi twisted the dimensions!
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Jirachi used Psychic.
Froslass lost 86% of its health.
Jirachi lost 10% of its health.
Froslass used Spikes.
Spikes were scattered around the foe's team!
---
hylian switched in Swampert (lvl 100 Swampert ?).
Jirachi used Psychic.
A critical hit!
Swampert lost 70% of its health.
hylian's Swampert fainted.
Jirachi lost 10% of its health.
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hylian switched in Infernape (lvl 100 Infernape ?).
Infernape used Vacuum Wave.
Jirachi lost 21% of its health.
Infernape lost 10% of its health.
Jirachi used Psychic.
It's super effective!
Infernape lost 90% of its health.
hylian's Infernape fainted.
Jirachi lost 10% of its health.
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hylian switched in Dragonite (lvl 100 Dragonite ?).
Jirachi used Healing Wish.
alex 67's Jirachi fainted.
alex 67 switched in Heatran (lvl 100 Heatran ?).
Pointed stones dug into Heatran.
Heatran lost 12% of its health.
Heatran was hurt by Spikes!
Heatran lost 19% of its health.
Heatran restored 41% of its health.
Dragonite used Dragon Dance.
Dragonite's attack was raised.
Dragonite's speed was raised.
The twisted dimensions returned to normal!
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Dragonite used Earthquake.
It's super effective!
Heatran lost 100% of its health.
alex 67's Heatran fainted.
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alex 67 switched in Gengar (lvl 100 Gengar ?).
Pointed stones dug into Gengar.
Gengar lost 12% of its health.
Gengar used Hidden Power.
It's super effective!
Dragonite lost 86% of its health.
Dragonite used Dragon Claw.
Gengar lost 88% of its health.
alex 67's Gengar fainted.
Dragonite's leftovers restored its health a little!
Dragonite restored 6% of its health.
---
alex 67 switched in Dragonite (lvl 100 Dragonite ?).
Pointed stones dug into Dragonite.
Dragonite lost 25% of its health.
Dragonite used Dragon Claw.
It's super effective!
A critical hit!
Dragonite lost 75% of its health.
alex 67's Dragonite fainted.
Dragonite's leftovers restored its health a little!
Dragonite restored 6% of its health.
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alex 67 switched in Infernape (lvl 100 Infernape ?).
Pointed stones dug into Infernape.
Infernape lost 12% of its health.
Infernape was poisoned!
Infernape was poisoned by the Toxic Spikes!
Infernape was hurt by Spikes!
Infernape lost 18% of its health.
Dragonite used Extremespeed.
Infernape lost 67% of its health.
Infernape used Flamethrower.
It's not very effective...
A critical hit!
Dragonite lost 27% of its health.
hylian's Dragonite fainted.
Infernape lost 3% of its health.
alex 67's Infernape fainted.
hylian wins!
hylian has left the room.
alex 67: gg



Rules: Ladder Match, Sleep Clause, Freeze Clause, OHKO Clause, Evasion Clause, Species Clause, Strict Damage Clause
RandBat.. sent out Heatran (lvl 100 Heatran ?).
alex 67 sent out Aerodactyl (lvl 100 Aerodactyl ?).
Aerodactyl is exerting its pressure!
RandBat.. switched in Cloyster (lvl 100 Cloyster ?).
Aerodactyl used Taunt.
Cloyster fell for the taunt!
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Cloyster used Ice Shard.
It's super effective!
Aerodactyl lost 84% of its health.
Cloyster lost 10% of its health.
Aerodactyl used Stealth Rock.
Pointed stones float in the air around the foe's team!
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alex 67 switched in Jirachi (lvl 100 Jirachi).
Cloyster used Ice Shard.
It's not very effective...
Jirachi lost 9% of its health.
Cloyster lost 10% of its health.
Cloyster's taunt wore off!
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RandBat.. switched in Gliscor (lvl 100 Gliscor ?).
Pointed stones dug into Gliscor.
Gliscor lost 12% of its health.
Jirachi used Trick Room.
Jirachi twisted the dimensions!
Gliscor's leftovers restored its health a little!
Gliscor restored 6% of its health.
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Jirachi used Psychic.
Gliscor lost 67% of its health.
Jirachi lost 10% of its health.
Gliscor used Earthquake.
It's super effective!
Jirachi lost 54% of its health.
Gliscor's leftovers restored its health a little!
Gliscor restored 6% of its health.
---
RandBat.. switched in Heatran (lvl 100 Heatran ?).
Pointed stones dug into Heatran.
Heatran lost 12% of its health.
Jirachi used Psychic.
It's not very effective...
A critical hit!
Heatran lost 58% of its health.
Jirachi lost 10% of its health.
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calculator10 has entered the room.
RandBat..: damn crits
calculator10 has left the room.
RandBat..: every game i play today i've got haxed
Jirachi used Healing Wish.
alex 67's Jirachi fainted.
alex 67 switched in Heatran (lvl 100 Heatran ?).
Heatran used Flamethrower.
Heatran's Flash Fire raised its fire power!
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Heatran used Earth Power.
It's super effective!
Heatran lost 30% of its health.
RandBat..'s Heatran fainted.
The Shuca Berry weakened Earth Power's power!
Heatran lost 10% of its health.
The twisted dimensions returned to normal!
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RandBat.. switched in Tentacruel (lvl 100 Tentacruel ?).
Pointed stones dug into Tentacruel.
Tentacruel lost 12% of its health.
alex 67 switched in Aerodactyl (lvl 100 Aerodactyl ?).
Aerodactyl is exerting its pressure!
Tentacruel used Surf.
It's super effective!
Aerodactyl lost 16% of its health.
alex 67's Aerodactyl fainted.
Tentacruel's leftovers restored its health a little!
Tentacruel restored 6% of its health.
---
alex 67 switched in Gengar (lvl 100 Gengar ?).
Gengar used Thunderbolt.
It's super effective!
Tentacruel lost 42% of its health.
Tentacruel used Toxic Spikes.
Toxic Spikes were scattered around the foe's team!
Tentacruel's leftovers restored its health a little!
Tentacruel restored 6% of its health.
---
Gengar used Thunderbolt.
It's super effective!
Tentacruel lost 44% of its health.
Tentacruel is paralysed! It may be unable to move!
Tentacruel used Toxic Spikes.
Toxic Spikes were scattered around the foe's team!
Tentacruel's leftovers restored its health a little!
Tentacruel restored 6% of its health.
---
Gengar used Thunderbolt.
It's super effective!
Tentacruel lost 20% of its health.
RandBat..'s Tentacruel fainted.
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RandBat.. switched in Spiritomb (lvl 100 Spiritomb ?).
Spiritomb is exerting its pressure!
Pointed stones dug into Spiritomb.
Spiritomb lost 12% of its health.
Spiritomb used Pursuit.
It's super effective!
Gengar lost 94% of its health.
alex 67 switched in Heatran (lvl 100 Heatran ?).
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Heatran used Fire Blast.
Spiritomb lost 67% of its health.
Heatran lost 10% of its health.
Spiritomb used Hidden Power.
It's super effective!
Heatran lost 57% of its health.
---
Heatran used Fire Blast.
Spiritomb lost 21% of its health.
RandBat..'s Spiritomb fainted.
Heatran lost 10% of its health.
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RandBat.. switched in Gliscor (lvl 100 Gliscor ?).
Pointed stones dug into Gliscor.
Gliscor lost 12% of its health.
Gliscor used Earthquake.
It's super effective!
Heatran lost 13% of its health.
alex 67's Heatran fainted.
Gliscor's leftovers restored its health a little!
Gliscor restored 6% of its health.
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alex 67 switched in Gengar (lvl 100 Gengar ?).
Gengar used Shadow Ball.
Gliscor lost 27% of its health.
RandBat..'s Gliscor fainted.
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RandBat.. switched in Cloyster (lvl 100 Cloyster ?).
Pointed stones dug into Cloyster.
Cloyster lost 25% of its health.
Cloyster used Ice Shard.
Gengar lost 6% of its health.
alex 67's Gengar fainted.
Cloyster lost 10% of its health.
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alex 67 switched in Infernape (lvl 100 Infernape ?).
Infernape was badly poisoned!
Infernape was badly poisoned by the Toxic Spikes!
Infernape used Grass Knot.
It's super effective!
Cloyster lost 45% of its health.
RandBat..'s Cloyster fainted.
Infernape lost 10% of its health.
Infernape is hurt by poison!
Infernape lost 6% of its health.
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RandBat.. switched in Jirachi (lvl 100 Jirachi).
Pointed stones dug into Jirachi.
Jirachi lost 6% of its health.
Infernape used Flamethrower.
It's super effective!
Jirachi lost 77% of its health.
Infernape lost 10% of its health.
Jirachi used Psychic.
It's super effective!
Infernape lost 74% of its health.
alex 67's Infernape fainted.
Jirachi's leftovers restored its health a little!
Jirachi restored 6% of its health.
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alex 67 switched in Dragonite (lvl 100 Dragonite ?).
Jirachi used Psychic.
Dragonite lost 35% of its health.
Dragonite used Earthquake.
It's super effective!
Jirachi lost 23% of its health.
RandBat..'s Jirachi fainted.
alex 67 wins!
RandBat..: g
alex 67: gg
RandBat..: gg*
RandBat.. has left the room.

Sorry it took so long but I have been anyway from my computer and I did not know ahead of time. Now for the logs I'm sorry that I only got 2 but these things are a pain to get between other team members doing the work,rage quitting opponents and making a mistake and getting swept. Lost the first and won the second and I did not put it in my favor and TR Jirachi at least assisted to the elimanation of other pokemon, sorry again I took so long.Also I would be happy to try to get more logs if needed
 
Given that you managed to cherrypick 2 logs out of what you say is a pile of Jirachi not being especially effective, and those 2 logs weren't even especially impressive, I'm still going to have to say no.
 
If you are going to use a TR jirachi I would suggest as a lead because most people would expect the typical lead jirachi and not bother to taunt you, other than that bronzong outclasses it completely.
 
PocketCat said:
If you are going to use a TR jirachi I would suggest as a lead because most people would expect the typical lead jirachi and not bother to taunt you, other than that bronzong outclasses it completely.
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It's fun definition time!

Gimmick: A set that does not work once the surprise is up.

Gimmick sets do not go on analyses.
 
Setsuna. said:
@alex 67: Just a few battles, consecutive battles in which you show how Jirachi plays the role of a TR user in front of the different type of teams out there.
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As you can see, the logs that you have presented here don't accomplish what I asked for when I posted what it's inside the quote. So please, can you show us some battles in which Jirachi proves to be a successful TR Pokemon? I'm not interested in seeing more logs like the ones posted above. Thank you.
 
Rules: Ladder Match, Sleep Clause, Freeze Clause, OHKO Clause, Evasion Clause, Species Clause, Strict Damage Clause
dd_858 sent out Lanturn (lvl 100 Lanturn ?).
alex 67 sent out Aerodactyl (lvl 100 Aerodactyl ?).
Aerodactyl is exerting its pressure!
Aerodactyl used Taunt.
Lanturn fell for the taunt!
Lanturn used Surf.
It's super effective!
Aerodactyl lost 73% of its health.
---
Aerodactyl used Stealth Rock.
Pointed stones float in the air around the foe's team!
Lanturn used Surf.
It's super effective!
A critical hit!
Aerodactyl lost 27% of its health.
alex 67's Aerodactyl fainted.
---
alex 67 switched in Dragonite (lvl 100 Dragonite ?).
Lanturn used Thunder.
Dragonite lost 33% of its health.
Dragonite used Dragon Dance.
Dragonite's attack was raised.
Dragonite's speed was raised.
Lanturn's taunt wore off!
---
Dragonite used Earthquake.
It's super effective!
Lanturn lost 100% of its health.
dd_858's Lanturn fainted.
Dragonite lost 10% of its health.
---
dd_858 switched in Starmie (lvl 100 Starmie).
Pointed stones dug into Starmie.
Starmie lost 12% of its health.
Starmie used Ice Beam.
It's super effective!
Dragonite lost 57% of its health.
alex 67's Dragonite fainted.
---
alex 67 switched in Gengar (lvl 100 Gengar ?).
dd_858 switched in Whiscash (lvl 100 Whiscash ?).
Pointed stones dug into Whiscash.
Whiscash lost 6% of its health.
Gengar used Shadow Ball.
Whiscash lost 42% of its health.
Whiscash's special defence was lowered.
Whiscash's leftovers restored its health a little!
Whiscash restored 6% of its health.
---
Gengar used Shadow Ball.
Whiscash lost 58% of its health.
dd_858's Whiscash fainted.
---
dd_858 switched in Kingdra (lvl 100 Kingdra ?).
Pointed stones dug into Kingdra.
Kingdra lost 12% of its health.
Gengar used Shadow Ball.
Kingdra lost 53% of its health.
Kingdra used Dragon Dance.
Kingdra's attack was raised.
Kingdra's speed was raised.
---
Gengar used Shadow Ball.
Kingdra lost 35% of its health.
dd_858's Kingdra fainted.
---
dd_858 switched in Empoleon (lvl 100 Empoleon ?).
Pointed stones dug into Empoleon.
Empoleon lost 6% of its health.
alex 67 switched in Infernape (lvl 100 Infernape ?).
Empoleon used Agility.
Empoleon's speed was sharply raised.
---
Empoleon used Substitute.
Empoleon lost 25% of its health.
Empoleon made a substitute!
Infernape used Close Combat.
It's super effective!
The substitute took damage for Empoleon!
Empoleon's substitute faded!
Infernape's defence was lowered.
Infernape's special defence was lowered.
---
Empoleon used Substitute.
Empoleon lost 25% of its health.
Empoleon made a substitute!
Infernape used Close Combat.
It's super effective!
The substitute took damage for Empoleon!
Empoleon's substitute faded!
Infernape's defence was lowered.
Infernape's special defence was lowered.
---
Empoleon used Substitute.
Empoleon lost 25% of its health.
Empoleon made a substitute!
Infernape used Close Combat.
It's super effective!
The substitute took damage for Empoleon!
Empoleon's substitute faded!
Infernape's defence was lowered.
Infernape's special defence was lowered.
Empoleon's Petaya Berry raised its special attack!
---
Empoleon used Surf.
It's super effective!
Infernape lost 100% of its health.
alex 67's Infernape fainted.
---
alex 67 switched in Jirachi (lvl 100 Jirachi).
Empoleon used Surf.
Jirachi lost 86% of its health.
Jirachi used Trick Room.
Jirachi twisted the dimensions!
---
Jirachi used Thunderbolt.
It's super effective!
Empoleon lost 19% of its health.
dd_858's Empoleon fainted.
Jirachi lost 10% of its health.
---
dd_858 switched in Azumarill (lvl 100 Azumarill ?).
Pointed stones dug into Azumarill.
Azumarill lost 12% of its health.
Azumarill used Aqua Jet.
Jirachi lost 4% of its health.
alex 67's Jirachi fainted.
---
alex 67 switched in Heatran (lvl 100 Heatran ?).
Azumarill used Aqua Jet.
It's super effective!
Heatran lost 80% of its health.
Heatran used Hidden Power.
It's super effective!
Azumarill lost 64% of its health.
Heatran lost 10% of its health.
---
Azumarill used Aqua Jet.
It's super effective!
Heatran lost 10% of its health.
alex 67's Heatran fainted.
The twisted dimensions returned to normal!
---
alex 67 switched in Gengar (lvl 100 Gengar ?).
Azumarill used Aqua Jet.
Gengar lost 82% of its health.
Gengar used Thunderbolt.
It's super effective!
Azumarill lost 24% of its health.
dd_858's Azumarill fainted.
---
dd_858 switched in Starmie (lvl 100 Starmie).
Pointed stones dug into Starmie.
Starmie lost 12% of its health.
Gengar used Thunderbolt.
It's super effective!
Starmie lost 75% of its health.
dd_858's Starmie fainted.
alex 67 wins!
dd_858: gg
dd_858 has left the room.
alex 67: gg
Rules: Ladder Match, Sleep Clause, Freeze Clause, OHKO Clause, Evasion Clause, Species Clause, Strict Damage Clause
TheUmbreonGuy sent out Karate Kid (lvl 100 Gallade ?).
alex 67 sent out Aerodactyl (lvl 100 Aerodactyl ?).
Aerodactyl is exerting its pressure!
TheUmbreonGuy: gl
Aerodactyl used Taunt.
Karate Kid fell for the taunt!
Karate Kid used Close Combat.
Aerodactyl lost 100% of its health.
Aerodactyl hung on using its Focus Sash!
Karate Kid's defence was lowered.
Karate Kid's special defence was lowered.
---
Karate Kid used Shadow Sneak.
Aerodactyl lost 0% of its health.
alex 67's Aerodactyl fainted.
---
alex 67 switched in Dragonite (lvl 100 Dragonite ?).
Karate Kid used Close Combat.
It's not very effective...
Dragonite lost 39% of its health.
Karate Kid's defence was lowered.
Karate Kid's special defence was lowered.
Dragonite used Dragon Dance.
Dragonite's attack was raised.
Dragonite's speed was raised.
Karate Kid's taunt wore off!
---
Dragonite used Dragon Claw.
Karate Kid lost 100% of its health.
Karate Kid hung on using its Focus Sash!
Dragonite lost 10% of its health.
Karate Kid used Close Combat.
It's not very effective...
Dragonite lost 39% of its health.
Karate Kid's defence was lowered.
Karate Kid's special defence was lowered.
---
Dragonite used Extremespeed.
Karate Kid lost 0% of its health.
TheUmbreonGuy's Karate Kid fainted.
Dragonite lost 10% of its health.
---
TheUmbreonGuy switched in Bubblez (lvl 100 Azumarill ?).
Dragonite used Extremespeed.
Bubblez lost 61% of its health.
Dragonite lost 3% of its health.
alex 67's Dragonite fainted.
Bubblez used Aqua Jet.
But there was no target!
---
alex 67 switched in Gengar (lvl 100 Gengar ?).
Bubblez used Aqua Jet.
Gengar lost 72% of its health.
Gengar used Thunderbolt.
It's super effective!
Bubblez lost 39% of its health.
TheUmbreonGuy's Bubblez fainted.
---
TheUmbreonGuy switched in RaggaeBush (lvl 100 Shaymin).
alex 67 switched in Jirachi (lvl 100 Jirachi).
RaggaeBush used Hidden Power.
It's super effective!
Jirachi lost 43% of its health.
RaggaeBush lost 10% of its health.
---
RaggaeBush used Hidden Power.
It's super effective!
Jirachi lost 44% of its health.
RaggaeBush lost 10% of its health.
Jirachi used Trick Room.
Jirachi twisted the dimensions!
---
alex 67 switched in Heatran (lvl 100 Heatran ?).
RaggaeBush used Hidden Power.
Heatran's Flash Fire raised its fire power!
---
TheUmbreonGuy switched in New No 1 (lvl 100 Heatran ?).
Heatran used Fire Blast.
New No 1's Flash Fire raised its fire power!
---
Heatran used Earth Power.
It's super effective!
New No 1 lost 76% of its health.
New No 1's special defence was lowered.
The Shuca Berry weakened Earth Power's power!
Heatran lost 10% of its health.
New No 1 used Earth Power.
It's super effective!
Heatran lost 90% of its health.
alex 67's Heatran fainted.
---
alex 67 switched in Jirachi (lvl 100 Jirachi).
Jirachi used Thunderbolt.
New No 1 lost 24% of its health.
TheUmbreonGuy's New No 1 fainted.
Jirachi lost 10% of its health.
The twisted dimensions returned to normal!
---
TheUmbreonGuy switched in Bye Uutton (lvl 100 Registeel).
Jirachi used Healing Wish.
alex 67's Jirachi fainted.
alex 67 switched in Gengar (lvl 100 Gengar ?).
Gengar restored 72% of its health.
Bye Uutton used Stealth Rock.
Pointed stones float in the air around the foe's team!
---
Gengar used Focus Blast.
It's super effective!
Bye Uutton lost 55% of its health.
Bye Uutton used Thunder Wave.
Gengar is paralysed! It may be unable to move!
Bye Uutton's leftovers restored its health a little!
Bye Uutton restored 6% of its health.
---
TheUmbreonGuy switched in Cloud 9 (lvl 100 Altaria ?).
Gengar used Focus Blast.
It's not very effective...
Cloud 9 lost 17% of its health.
Cloud 9's leftovers restored its health a little!
Cloud 9 restored 6% of its health.
---
Cloud 9 used Dragon Claw.
Gengar lost 47% of its health.
Gengar used Focus Blast.
It's not very effective...
Cloud 9 lost 17% of its health.
Cloud 9's leftovers restored its health a little!
Cloud 9 restored 6% of its health.
---
Cloud 9 used Dragon Claw.
Gengar lost 48% of its health.
Gengar used Focus Blast.
It's not very effective...
Cloud 9 lost 14% of its health.
Cloud 9's leftovers restored its health a little!
Cloud 9 restored 6% of its health.
---
Cloud 9 used Dragon Claw.
Gengar lost 5% of its health.
alex 67's Gengar fainted.
Cloud 9's leftovers restored its health a little!
Cloud 9 restored 6% of its health.
---
alex 67 switched in Infernape (lvl 100 Infernape ?).
Pointed stones dug into Infernape.
Infernape lost 12% of its health.
TheUmbreonGuy: never sen a trick room gengar and infernape
Infernape used Nasty Plot.
Infernape's special attack was sharply raised.
Cloud 9 used Dragon Claw.
Infernape lost 33% of its health.
Cloud 9's leftovers restored its health a little!
Cloud 9 restored 6% of its health.
---
alex 67: No there not its only 2 of my pokemon that use TR
Infernape used Flamethrower.
It's not very effective...
Cloud 9 lost 39% of its health.
Infernape lost 10% of its health.
Cloud 9 used Dragon Claw.
Infernape lost 37% of its health.
Cloud 9's leftovers restored its health a little!
Cloud 9 restored 6% of its health.
---
Infernape used Flamethrower.
It's not very effective...
Cloud 9 lost 51% of its health.
TheUmbreonGuy's Cloud 9 fainted.
Infernape lost 8% of its health.
alex 67's Infernape fainted.
TheUmbreonGuy wins!
TheUmbreonGuy: gg
alex 67: gg
TheUmbreonGuy has left the room.
Rules: Ladder Match, Sleep Clause, Freeze Clause, OHKO Clause, Evasion Clause, Species Clause, Strict Damage Clause
TheAlmighty sent out Aerodactyl (lvl 100 Aerodactyl ?).
alex 67 sent out Aerodactyl (lvl 100 Aerodactyl ?).
Aerodactyl is exerting its pressure!
Aerodactyl is exerting its pressure!
Aerodactyl used Taunt.
Aerodactyl fell for the taunt!
Aerodactyl used Stealth Rock.
Aerodactyl can't use Stealth Rock after the taunt!
---
Aerodactyl used Stone Edge.
It's super effective!
Aerodactyl lost 100% of its health.
Aerodactyl hung on using its Focus Sash!
Aerodactyl used Stealth Rock.
Pointed stones float in the air around the foe's team!
---
Aerodactyl used Stone Edge.
It's super effective!
Aerodactyl lost 0% of its health.
alex 67's Aerodactyl fainted.
---
alex 67 switched in Gengar (lvl 100 Gengar ?).
Gengar used Thunderbolt.
It's super effective!
Aerodactyl lost 89% of its health.
Aerodactyl used Stone Edge.
Gengar lost 86% of its health.
---
Gengar used Thunderbolt.
It's super effective!
Aerodactyl lost 11% of its health.
TheAlmighty's Aerodactyl fainted.
---
TheAlmighty switched in Starmie (lvl 100 Starmie).
Pointed stones dug into Starmie.
Starmie lost 12% of its health.
Starmie used Surf.
Gengar lost 14% of its health.
alex 67's Gengar fainted.
---
alex 67 switched in Dragonite (lvl 100 Dragonite ?).
TheAlmighty switched in Jirachi (lvl 100 Jirachi).
Pointed stones dug into Jirachi.
Jirachi lost 6% of its health.
Dragonite used Dragon Dance.
Dragonite's attack was raised.
Dragonite's speed was raised.
---
Jirachi used Ice Punch.
It's super effective!
Dragonite lost 73% of its health.
Dragonite used Earthquake.
It's super effective!
Jirachi lost 94% of its health.
TheAlmighty's Jirachi fainted.
Dragonite lost 10% of its health.
---
TheAlmighty switched in Starmie (lvl 100 Starmie).
Pointed stones dug into Starmie.
Starmie lost 12% of its health.
Dragonite used Extremespeed.
Starmie lost 75% of its health.
TheAlmighty's Starmie fainted.
Dragonite lost 10% of its health.
---
TheAlmighty switched in Skarmory (lvl 100 Skarmory ?).
Pointed stones dug into Skarmory.
Skarmory lost 12% of its health.
Dragonite used Dragon Claw.
It's not very effective...
Skarmory lost 28% of its health.
Dragonite lost 7% of its health.
alex 67's Dragonite fainted.
Skarmory used Brave Bird.
But there was no target!
Skarmory's leftovers restored its health a little!
Skarmory restored 6% of its health.
---
alex 67 switched in Infernape (lvl 100 Infernape ?).
TheAlmighty switched in Magnezone (lvl 100 Magnezone).
Pointed stones dug into Magnezone.
Magnezone lost 6% of its health.
Infernape used Flamethrower.
It's super effective!
Magnezone lost 94% of its health.
TheAlmighty's Magnezone fainted.
Infernape lost 10% of its health.
---
TheAlmighty switched in Heracross (lvl 100 Heracross ?).
Pointed stones dug into Heracross.
Heracross lost 12% of its health.
Heracross used Close Combat.
Infernape lost 90% of its health.
alex 67's Infernape fainted.
Heracross's defence was lowered.
Heracross's special defence was lowered.
---
alex 67 switched in Jirachi (lvl 100 Jirachi).
Heracross used Close Combat.
Jirachi lost 53% of its health.
Heracross's defence was lowered.
Heracross's special defence was lowered.
Jirachi used Trick Room.
Jirachi twisted the dimensions!
---
TheAlmighty switched in Skarmory (lvl 100 Skarmory ?).
Pointed stones dug into Skarmory.
Skarmory lost 12% of its health.
Jirachi used Psychic.
It's not very effective...
Skarmory lost 35% of its health.
Jirachi lost 10% of its health.
Skarmory's leftovers restored its health a little!
Skarmory restored 6% of its health.
---
Jirachi used Thunderbolt.
It's super effective!
Skarmory lost 24% of its health.
TheAlmighty's Skarmory fainted.
Jirachi lost 10% of its health.
---
TheAlmighty switched in Heracross (lvl 100 Heracross ?).
Pointed stones dug into Heracross.
Heracross lost 12% of its health.
Jirachi used Psychic.
It's super effective!
A critical hit!
Heracross lost 75% of its health.
TheAlmighty's Heracross fainted.
alex 67 wins!
TheAlmighty has left the room.
Rules: Ladder Match, Sleep Clause, Freeze Clause, OHKO Clause, Evasion Clause, Species Clause, Strict Damage Clause
alex 67 sent out Aerodactyl (lvl 100 Aerodactyl ?).
Kishou sent out Ambipom (lvl 100 Ambipom ?).
Aerodactyl is exerting its pressure!
alex 67 switched in Gengar (lvl 100 Gengar ?).
Ambipom used Fake Out.
It doesn't affect Gengar...
---
Gengar used Thunderbolt.
Ambipom lost 59% of its health.
Ambipom used Pursuit.
It's super effective!
Gengar lost 75% of its health.
---
Kishou: every1 has gengar today
Kishou: :)
Gengar used Thunderbolt.
Ambipom lost 41% of its health.
Kishou's Ambipom fainted.
---
Kishou switched in Dusknoir (lvl 100 Dusknoir ?).
Dusknoir is exerting its pressure!
alex 67 switched in Aerodactyl (lvl 100 Aerodactyl ?).
Aerodactyl is exerting its pressure!
Dusknoir used Shadow Sneak.
Aerodactyl lost 25% of its health.
---
Aerodactyl used Stealth Rock.
Pointed stones float in the air around the foe's team!
Dusknoir used Thunderpunch.
It's super effective!
Aerodactyl lost 60% of its health.
---
alex 67 switched in Dragonite (lvl 100 Dragonite ?).
Dusknoir used Shadow Sneak.
Dragonite lost 15% of its health.
---
Dragonite used Dragon Dance.
Dragonite's attack was raised.
Dragonite's speed was raised.
Dusknoir used Will-o-wisp.
Dragonite was burned!
Dragonite was hurt by its burn!
Dragonite lost 12% of its health.
---
Kishou switched in Swampert (lvl 100 Swampert ?).
Pointed stones dug into Swampert.
Swampert lost 6% of its health.
Dragonite used Dragon Claw.
Swampert lost 43% of its health.
Dragonite lost 10% of its health.
Dragonite was hurt by its burn!
Dragonite lost 12% of its health.
---
Dragonite used Dragon Claw.
Swampert lost 42% of its health.
Dragonite lost 10% of its health.
Swampert used Ice Punch.
It's super effective!
Dragonite lost 40% of its health.
alex 67's Dragonite fainted.
---
alex 67 switched in Aerodactyl (lvl 100 Aerodactyl ?).
Aerodactyl is exerting its pressure!
Aerodactyl used Rock Slide.
It's not very effective...
A critical hit!
Swampert lost 10% of its health.
Kishou's Swampert fainted.
---
Kishou switched in Dusknoir (lvl 100 Dusknoir ?).
Dusknoir is exerting its pressure!
Pointed stones dug into Dusknoir.
Dusknoir lost 12% of its health.
Dusknoir used Shadow Sneak.
Aerodactyl lost 16% of its health.
alex 67's Aerodactyl fainted.
Dusknoir's leftovers restored its health a little!
Dusknoir restored 6% of its health.
---
alex 67 switched in Infernape (lvl 100 Infernape ?).
Kishou switched in Heatran (lvl 100 Heatran ?).
Pointed stones dug into Heatran.
Heatran lost 12% of its health.
Infernape used Nasty Plot.
Infernape's special attack was sharply raised.
Heatran's leftovers restored its health a little!
Heatran restored 6% of its health.
---
Infernape used Close Combat.
It's super effective!
Heatran lost 94% of its health.
Kishou's Heatran fainted.
Infernape's defence was lowered.
Infernape's special defence was lowered.
Infernape lost 10% of its health.
---
Kishou switched in Jumpluff (lvl 100 Jumpluff ?).
Pointed stones dug into Jumpluff.
Jumpluff lost 25% of its health.
Jumpluff used Encore.
Infernape got an encore!
Infernape used Close Combat.
It's not very effective...
Jumpluff lost 29% of its health.
Infernape's defence was lowered.
Infernape's special defence was lowered.
Infernape lost 10% of its health.
Jumpluff's leftovers restored its health a little!
Jumpluff restored 6% of its health.
---
Encore prohibits the use of this move.
Jumpluff used Leech Seed.
Infernape was seeded!
Infernape used Close Combat.
It's not very effective...
Jumpluff lost 36% of its health.
Infernape's defence was lowered.
Infernape's special defence was lowered.
Infernape lost 10% of its health.
Jumpluff's leftovers restored its health a little!
Jumpluff restored 6% of its health.
Infernape's health was sapped by leech seed!
Infernape lost 12% of its health.
Jumpluff regained health!
Jumpluff restored 12% of its health.
---
Jumpluff used Sleep Powder.
Jumpluff's attack missed!
Infernape used Close Combat.
It's not very effective...
Jumpluff lost 34% of its health.
Infernape's defence was lowered.
Infernape's special defence was lowered.
Infernape lost 10% of its health.
Jumpluff's leftovers restored its health a little!
Jumpluff restored 6% of its health.
Infernape's health was sapped by leech seed!
Infernape lost 12% of its health.
Jumpluff regained health!
Jumpluff restored 12% of its health.
---
Jumpluff used Sleep Powder.
Jumpluff's attack missed!
Infernape used Close Combat.
It's not very effective...
Jumpluff lost 19% of its health.
Kishou's Jumpluff fainted.
Infernape's defence was lowered.
Infernape's special defence was lowered.
Infernape lost 10% of its health.
---
Kishou switched in Dusknoir (lvl 100 Dusknoir ?).
Dusknoir is exerting its pressure!
Pointed stones dug into Dusknoir.
Dusknoir lost 12% of its health.
Encore prohibits the use of this move.
alex 67 switched in Gengar (lvl 100 Gengar ?).
Dusknoir used Shadow Sneak.
It's super effective!
Gengar lost 25% of its health.
alex 67's Gengar fainted.
Dusknoir's leftovers restored its health a little!
Dusknoir restored 6% of its health.
---
alex 67 switched in Infernape (lvl 100 Infernape ?).
Dusknoir used Shadow Sneak.
Infernape lost 24% of its health.
Infernape used Flamethrower.
Dusknoir lost 65% of its health.
Infernape lost 2% of its health.
alex 67's Infernape fainted.
Dusknoir's leftovers restored its health a little!
Dusknoir restored 6% of its health.
---
alex 67 switched in Jirachi (lvl 100 Jirachi).
Dusknoir used Pain Split.
Dusknoir restored 54% of its health.
Jirachi lost 40% of its health.
Jirachi used Trick Room.
Jirachi twisted the dimensions!
Dusknoir's leftovers restored its health a little!
Dusknoir restored 6% of its health.
---
Dusknoir used Will-o-wisp.
Jirachi was burned!
Jirachi used Psychic.
Dusknoir lost 54% of its health.
Jirachi lost 10% of its health.
Dusknoir's leftovers restored its health a little!
Dusknoir restored 6% of its health.
Jirachi was hurt by its burn!
Jirachi lost 12% of its health.
---
Dusknoir used Thunderpunch.
Jirachi lost 15% of its health.
Jirachi used Psychic.
Dusknoir lost 41% of its health.
Kishou's Dusknoir fainted.
Jirachi lost 10% of its health.
Jirachi was hurt by its burn!
Jirachi lost 12% of its health.
---
Kishou switched in Umbreon (lvl 100 Umbreon ?).
Pointed stones dug into Umbreon.
Umbreon lost 12% of its health.
Jirachi used Healing Wish.
alex 67's Jirachi fainted.
alex 67 switched in Heatran (lvl 100 Heatran ?).
Umbreon used Curse.
Umbreon's speed was lowered.
Umbreon's attack was raised.
Umbreon's defence was raised.
Umbreon's leftovers restored its health a little!
Umbreon restored 6% of its health.
---
Umbreon used Wish.
Umbreon made a wish!
Heatran used Fire Blast.
Umbreon lost 42% of its health.
Umbreon was burned!
Heatran lost 10% of its health.
The twisted dimensions returned to normal!
Umbreon's leftovers restored its health a little!
Umbreon restored 6% of its health.
Umbreon was hurt by its burn!
Umbreon lost 12% of its health.
---
Heatran used Fire Blast.
Umbreon lost 42% of its health.
Heatran lost 10% of its health.
Umbreon used Curse.
Umbreon's speed was lowered.
Umbreon's attack was raised.
Umbreon's defence was raised.
The wish came true!
Umbreon restored 50% of its health.
Umbreon's leftovers restored its health a little!
Umbreon restored 6% of its health.
Umbreon was hurt by its burn!
Umbreon lost 12% of its health.
---
alex 67: gg
Heatran used Fire Blast.
Umbreon lost 44% of its health.
Heatran lost 10% of its health.
Umbreon used Wish.
Umbreon made a wish!
Umbreon's leftovers restored its health a little!
Umbreon restored 6% of its health.
Umbreon was hurt by its burn!
Umbreon lost 9% of its health.
Kishou's Umbreon fainted.
alex 67 wins!
Kishou: yeah


Alright as requested here are 4 consecutive logs so they are not cherrypicked logs out of a pile here they are
 
Still not convinced. Every single time, the Trick Room was a waste of time there. Jirachi has a lot more ways to be effective than a gimmicky mediocre Trick Room set. Still rejecting.
 
Initial thoughts:
As a sweeper CM Jirachi does it better.
As for setting up TR bronzong does it better.
While trying to do both Jirachi seems to become "a jack of all trades but master of none"

Basically, if I was running a TR team I would probably rather run a set upper and a sweeper rather then trying to combine them, because while that may save space it's probably not going to help me in the long run.

However, I'm not going to reject this set just yet because I'd like to give you the chance to convince me I'm wrong.
 
While bronzong sets up trick room more safely its attack is a little low for sweeping and is much more vulnerable to intimidate or even worse burn. TR Jirachi is not vulnerable to either and instead of exploding on if your opponent predicts could be a ghost then you wasted a pokemon. Jirachi is also more unpredictable as you said it your self its a master of all trades. It has several choices; you can clean up your opponents team late game including nasty stuff like choice scarf pokemon who would give calm mind jirachi trouble. Its next option would be to switch in another pokemon to give it trick room or finally it could heal a slow crippled sweeper back to health with healing wish.
 
Each one of those logs showed how Jirachi is an inefficient Pokemon for Trick Room purposes. I'm rejecting this set.

I appreciate the enthusiasm you have put into this set and every single thing you have done in order to convince us, alex 67. However, this is not a set that's good enough as to warrant its own place on-site. Thank you, and feel free to try again the future.
 
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