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Project SV OU - Victim of the Week (Week 62: Dragon Dance Kyurem) [SUBMISSIONS OPEN!]
- Thread starter Dead by Daylight
- Start date
But the thing is iron valiant def doesnt kill it with cc, its to fat
Knowing I shouldn't vote for myself...
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(As much as I wanted to vote for Brambleghast because it's the only other non-Chi-Yu check that isn't mine that actually beats this Great Tusk regardless of whether it Teras and also doesn't need to Tera in order to beat this Great Tusk, and the optics surrounding Chi-Yu have been terrible lately, and I've gotten beaten by Strength Sap Brambleghast in an OU game before, Chi-Yu is just plain more splashable than Brambleghast.)
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(It's the only counter that doesn't have to Tera in order to work - Avalugg and Amoonguss cannot actually counter this Great Tusk without Terastallizing (Avalugg takes too much from Close Combat, Amoonguss takes too much from Headlong Rush), and I generally have pretty lame luck with RestTalk Dondozo. Great Tusk 3HKOing RestTalking Dondozo if it Knock Offs as Dondozo switches in makes me leery that Dondozo actually counters this Great Tusk, especially since Wave Crash turns being 3HKOd into being 2HKOd too often. Note that Dondozo doesn't need to Tera in this match-up in order to get similar results, and Great Tusk might actually be incentivized to not Tera either simply to rack up Wave Crash recoil instead of get hit by super-effective Body Presses. Talonflame needs to Tera Flying in order to actually dodge all the burned(!) Headlong Rushes all the time, which erase upwards of 70% of Roosting non-Tera Talonflame's max. HP every time.)
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(As much as I wanted to vote for Brambleghast because it's the only other non-Chi-Yu check that isn't mine that actually beats this Great Tusk regardless of whether it Teras and also doesn't need to Tera in order to beat this Great Tusk, and the optics surrounding Chi-Yu have been terrible lately, and I've gotten beaten by Strength Sap Brambleghast in an OU game before, Chi-Yu is just plain more splashable than Brambleghast.)Counter:
(It's the only counter that doesn't have to Tera in order to work - Avalugg and Amoonguss cannot actually counter this Great Tusk without Terastallizing (Avalugg takes too much from Close Combat, Amoonguss takes too much from Headlong Rush), and I generally have pretty lame luck with RestTalk Dondozo. Great Tusk 3HKOing RestTalking Dondozo if it Knock Offs as Dondozo switches in makes me leery that Dondozo actually counters this Great Tusk, especially since Wave Crash turns being 3HKOd into being 2HKOd too often. Note that Dondozo doesn't need to Tera in this match-up in order to get similar results, and Great Tusk might actually be incentivized to not Tera either simply to rack up Wave Crash recoil instead of get hit by super-effective Body Presses. Talonflame needs to Tera Flying in order to actually dodge all the burned(!) Headlong Rushes all the time, which erase upwards of 70% of Roosting non-Tera Talonflame's max. HP every time.)
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Congratulations to Bice and Lectrys for winning this week of Victim of the Week.
Our new Victim shall be...
Dragonite @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Multiscale
Tera Type: Normal
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Extreme Speed
- Earthquake
- Ice Spinner
Dragonite has continued from where it left off in SS, however this time it has become an even bigger offensive threat. With Normal Tera Type, Extreme Speed suddenly becomes a STAB Base 80 Priority Move, on top of Dragon Dance. Ice Spinner also allows Dragonite to not have to rely on STAB moves with drawbacks such as Outrage or Dragon Claw. Ice Spinner can deal with any opposing Dragons, such as Dragapult, Roaring Moon and Garchomp.
How will you punish this victim? Submissions end Friday!
Our new Victim shall be...
Dragonite @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Multiscale
Tera Type: Normal
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Extreme Speed
- Earthquake
- Ice Spinner
Dragonite has continued from where it left off in SS, however this time it has become an even bigger offensive threat. With Normal Tera Type, Extreme Speed suddenly becomes a STAB Base 80 Priority Move, on top of Dragon Dance. Ice Spinner also allows Dragonite to not have to rely on STAB moves with drawbacks such as Outrage or Dragon Claw. Ice Spinner can deal with any opposing Dragons, such as Dragapult, Roaring Moon and Garchomp.
How will you punish this victim? Submissions end Friday!
Dondozo @ Leftovers
Ability: Unaware
Tera Type: Fairy/Electric
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Impish Nature
- Liquidation
- Curse
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
dondozo hard counters dragonite. unaware makes dondozo one of the best answers to any physical setup sweeper, and this definitely includes dragonite. even after dragonite terastallizes into normal-type, extreme speed can only do 19.2 - 22.8%, which allows dondozo to set up in front of dragonite and become a threatening sweeper with curse. tera electric is an option due to a popular team from mimikyu stardust having hurricane on dragonite to act as a lure for dondozo.
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Great Tusk @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Protosynthesis
Tera Type: Fighting / Steel / Water
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Impish Nature
- Body Press
- Ice Spinner
- Knock Off
- Rapid Spin
The combination of Rocky Helmet, Ice Spinner and Body Press allows Great Tusk to be a decently reliable counter to most Dragonite sets. Rocky Helmet will break Multiscale, then Ice Spinner or Body Press will finish it off. Great Tusk is bulky enough to take 2 Ice Spinners from +1 Dragonite, so it cannot be outplayed using Tera if its healthy enough. Unfortunately, Great Tusk crumbles to the occasional Hurricane Dragonite, and there's nothing you can do about it except using a pre-emptive Tera or praying that your opponent is of sane mind.
0 Atk Great Tusk Ice Spinner vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Dragonite: 304-360 (94.1 - 111.4%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKO
252+ Def Great Tusk Body Press vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tera Normal Dragonite: 306-360 (94.7 - 111.4%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKO
+1 252+ Atk Dragonite Ice Spinner vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Great Tusk: 176-208 (40.5 - 47.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
4 SpA Dragonite Hurricane vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Great Tusk: 392-464 (90.3 - 106.9%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO
252+ Def Great Tusk Body Press vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tera Normal Dragonite: 306-360 (94.7 - 111.4%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKO
+1 252+ Atk Dragonite Ice Spinner vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Great Tusk: 176-208 (40.5 - 47.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
4 SpA Dragonite Hurricane vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Great Tusk: 392-464 (90.3 - 106.9%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO
Skeledirge @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Unaware
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD
Bold Nature
- Torch Song
- Will-O-Wisp
- Hex
- Slack Off
The key think that separates Skeledirge from other walls is its ghost typing and will o wisp. Combine that with tera fairy means that it's very hard to 2hko at most. Will o wisp is the main selling point as it's a death sentence for any physical attacker especially Dnite and hex is just the nail in the coffin. Lastly, torch song is to makes sure its not a passive wall as well.
Ability: Unaware
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD
Bold Nature
- Torch Song
- Will-O-Wisp
- Hex
- Slack Off
The key think that separates Skeledirge from other walls is its ghost typing and will o wisp. Combine that with tera fairy means that it's very hard to 2hko at most. Will o wisp is the main selling point as it's a death sentence for any physical attacker especially Dnite and hex is just the nail in the coffin. Lastly, torch song is to makes sure its not a passive wall as well.
Corviknight @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Pressure
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD
Impish Nature
- Brave Bird / Body Press
- U-turn
- Roost
- Defog
Status: Counter
Even at +1 with Ice Spinner, Corviknight hard-walls most DD Dragonite variants, punish them with Rocky Helmet to break their Multiscale, and hit back decently hard with Brave Bird. Body Press can also be used to deal more damage to Terastallized Normal Dragonite without recoil, though you're left in between a rock and a hard place if it doesn't Tera for some reason. Also be careful of Fire Punch variants, those have a high chance of 2HKOing Corv at +1 even without the rare Fire Terastallization.
Damage calcs assume Dragonite has had its Multiscale broken thanks to Rocky Helmet.
+1 252+ Atk Tera Normal Dragonite Ice Spinner vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Corviknight: 102-121 (25.5 - 30.3%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
+1 252+ Atk Tera Normal Dragonite Extreme Speed vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Corviknight: 76-90 (19 - 22.5%) -- possible 5HKO
252+ Def Corviknight Body Press vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tera Normal Dragonite: 172-204 (53.2 - 63.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
0 Atk Corviknight Brave Bird vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tera Normal Dragonite: 120-142 (37.1 - 43.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
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Rotom-Wash @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
Tera Type: Ground / Poison / Electric / Ghost
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Hydro Pump
- Volt Switch
- Will-O-Wisp
- Protect
Rotom-Wash is never a fan of taking Extreme Speeds, which is why I've labelled this set as a check instead of a counter, but this defensive set is pretty good at outlasting Dragonite without needing to Tera. Simply Will-O-Wisp on Turn 1 and do other things after that:
252+ Atk Dragonite Extreme Speed vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Rotom-Wash: 68-80 (22.3 - 26.3%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ Atk Tera Normal Dragonite Extreme Speed vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Rotom-Wash: 102-120 (33.5 - 39.4%) -- 14.1% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ Atk burned Dragonite Extreme Speed vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Rotom-Wash: 34-40 (11.1 - 13.1%) -- possibly the worst move ever
252+ Atk burned Tera Normal Dragonite Extreme Speed vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Rotom-Wash: 51-60 (16.7 - 19.7%) -- possible 7HKO after Leftovers recovery
+1 252+ Atk burned Dragonite Extreme Speed vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Rotom-Wash: 50-59 (16.4 - 19.4%) -- possible 8HKO after Leftovers recovery
+1 252+ Atk burned Tera Normal Dragonite Extreme Speed vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Rotom-Wash: 75-89 (24.6 - 29.2%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery
+2 252+ Atk burned Dragonite Extreme Speed vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Rotom-Wash: 67-79 (22 - 25.9%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery
+2 252+ Atk burned Tera Normal Dragonite Extreme Speed vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Rotom-Wash: 101-119 (33.2 - 39.1%) -- 9.8% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
+3 252+ Atk burned Dragonite Extreme Speed vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Rotom-Wash: 84-99 (27.6 - 32.5%) -- 71.8% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
+3 252+ Atk burned Tera Normal Dragonite Extreme Speed vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Rotom-Wash: 126-148 (41.4 - 48.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
0 SpA Rotom-Wash Hydro Pump vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Dragonite: 61-72 (18.8 - 22.2%) -- 85.5% chance to 4HKO after burn damage
0 SpA Rotom-Wash Hydro Pump vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Tera Normal Dragonite: 123-145 (38 - 44.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after burn damage
0 SpA Rotom-Wash Volt Switch vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Dragonite: 79-94 (24.4 - 29.1%) -- 0.2% chance to 3HKO after burn damage
Note that you don't actually need to Tera this Rotom-Wash in order to check this Dragonite with it.
Rotom-Wash @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
Tera Type: Ground / Poison / Electric / Ghost
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Hydro Pump
- Volt Switch
- Will-O-Wisp
- Protect
Rotom-Wash is never a fan of taking Extreme Speeds, which is why I've labelled this set as a check instead of a counter, but this defensive set is pretty good at outlasting Dragonite without needing to Tera. Simply Will-O-Wisp on Turn 1 and do other things after that:
252+ Atk Dragonite Extreme Speed vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Rotom-Wash: 68-80 (22.3 - 26.3%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ Atk Tera Normal Dragonite Extreme Speed vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Rotom-Wash: 102-120 (33.5 - 39.4%) -- 14.1% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ Atk burned Dragonite Extreme Speed vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Rotom-Wash: 34-40 (11.1 - 13.1%) -- possibly the worst move ever
252+ Atk burned Tera Normal Dragonite Extreme Speed vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Rotom-Wash: 51-60 (16.7 - 19.7%) -- possible 7HKO after Leftovers recovery
+1 252+ Atk burned Dragonite Extreme Speed vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Rotom-Wash: 50-59 (16.4 - 19.4%) -- possible 8HKO after Leftovers recovery
+1 252+ Atk burned Tera Normal Dragonite Extreme Speed vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Rotom-Wash: 75-89 (24.6 - 29.2%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery
+2 252+ Atk burned Dragonite Extreme Speed vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Rotom-Wash: 67-79 (22 - 25.9%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery
+2 252+ Atk burned Tera Normal Dragonite Extreme Speed vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Rotom-Wash: 101-119 (33.2 - 39.1%) -- 9.8% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
+3 252+ Atk burned Dragonite Extreme Speed vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Rotom-Wash: 84-99 (27.6 - 32.5%) -- 71.8% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
+3 252+ Atk burned Tera Normal Dragonite Extreme Speed vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Rotom-Wash: 126-148 (41.4 - 48.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
0 SpA Rotom-Wash Hydro Pump vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Dragonite: 61-72 (18.8 - 22.2%) -- 85.5% chance to 4HKO after burn damage
0 SpA Rotom-Wash Hydro Pump vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Tera Normal Dragonite: 123-145 (38 - 44.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after burn damage
0 SpA Rotom-Wash Volt Switch vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Dragonite: 79-94 (24.4 - 29.1%) -- 0.2% chance to 3HKO after burn damage
Note that you don't actually need to Tera this Rotom-Wash in order to check this Dragonite with it.
Slowbro @
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
- Slack Off
- Body Press
- Future Sight
- Chilling Water
I consider Slowbro a great CW user as he also has good defense to take on anything from DD nite. Depending on the situation with CW or BP spam with the normal tera is enough.
Alomomola @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Regenerator
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Impish Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Wish
- Protect
- Chilling Water
- Whirlpool
+1 252+ Atk Tera Normal Dragonite Extreme Speed vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Alomomola: 183-216 (34.2 - 40.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
+1 252+ Atk Tera Normal Dragonite Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Alomomola: 153-180 (28.6 - 33.7%) -- 0.5% chance to 3HKO
+1 252+ Atk Tera Normal Dragonite Ice Spinner vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Alomomola: 61-72 (11.4 - 13.4%) -- possible 8HKO
Mola is a counter, it can switch in on the dd, chilling water, and wish protect itself up... and even if shit hits the fan like dragonite tera's and results in it taking much more, it can always tera ghost and continue to spam chilling water
+2 252+ Atk Tera Normal Dragonite Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Tera Ghost Alomomola: 204-240 (38.2 - 44.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
+2 252+ Atk Tera Normal Dragonite Ice Spinner vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Tera Ghost Alomomola: 163-192 (30.5 - 35.9%) -- 45.3% chance to 3HKO
After you ghost tera you are still able to stall out dragonite slowly with chilling water and its ice spinners esp unless it is at +2 it cannot really harm mola can just wish up and chilling water to continue to lower its attack
Ability: Regenerator
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Impish Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Wish
- Protect
- Chilling Water
- Whirlpool
+1 252+ Atk Tera Normal Dragonite Extreme Speed vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Alomomola: 183-216 (34.2 - 40.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
+1 252+ Atk Tera Normal Dragonite Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Alomomola: 153-180 (28.6 - 33.7%) -- 0.5% chance to 3HKO
+1 252+ Atk Tera Normal Dragonite Ice Spinner vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Alomomola: 61-72 (11.4 - 13.4%) -- possible 8HKO
Mola is a counter, it can switch in on the dd, chilling water, and wish protect itself up... and even if shit hits the fan like dragonite tera's and results in it taking much more, it can always tera ghost and continue to spam chilling water
+2 252+ Atk Tera Normal Dragonite Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Tera Ghost Alomomola: 204-240 (38.2 - 44.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
+2 252+ Atk Tera Normal Dragonite Ice Spinner vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Tera Ghost Alomomola: 163-192 (30.5 - 35.9%) -- 45.3% chance to 3HKO
After you ghost tera you are still able to stall out dragonite slowly with chilling water and its ice spinners esp unless it is at +2 it cannot really harm mola can just wish up and chilling water to continue to lower its attack
Submitting Air Balloon Skeledirge as a check.
Skeledirge @ Air Balloon
Ability: Unaware
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 248 HP / 64 Def / 196 SpD
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Torch Song
- Will-O-Wisp
- Slack Off
- Hex
+6 252+ Atk Dragonite Ice Spinner vs. 248 HP / 64 Def Unaware Skeledirge: 46-54 (11.1 - 13.1%) -- possible 8HKO
+6 252+ Atk burned Dragonite Earthquake vs. 248 HP / 64 Def Unaware Skeledirge: 115-136 (27.9 - 33%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
+6 252+ Atk burned Dragonite Ice Spinner vs. 248 HP / 64 Def Unaware Skeledirge: 23-27 (5.5 - 6.5%) -- possibly the worst move ever
+6 252+ Atk burned Dragonite Ice Spinner vs. 248 HP / 64 Def Unaware Skeledirge: 23-27 (5.5 - 6.5%) -- possibly the worst move ever
Trade your balloon to burn the Dnite, and you can wall it forever. Even at +6 You can't be 3hko'd, and can always slack off. Any combination of torch song and hex will outdamage Dnite as you slack it off.
Not submitting as a counter because if you lose the balloon, Dnite has a possibility to beat you.
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SCARF CHIEN-PAO AS AN INSANE CHECK
Chien-Pao @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Sword of Ruin
Tera Type: Ice
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Sacred Sword
- Ice Shard
- Crunch
- Icicle Crash
OKAY! Hear me out guys. This scarf is not ONLY for dnite. I know all of us hate Chien-Pao and we can't deny it. Its attack stat is just, splendid. Its speed is insane. To add more to that, Chien-Pao gets XUCKING SWORD OF RUIN.
Outspeeds these insane threats and kills them easily: +2 DNITE, +1 IRON VALIANT, CHIEN-PAO, +1 GHOLDENGO, DRAGAPULT, +1 MEOWSCARADA (if ur jolly or they ada).
Also, please guys. Lets not forget this thing has great physical bulk...
Chien-Pao @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Sword of Ruin
Tera Type: Ice
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Sacred Sword
- Ice Shard
- Crunch
- Icicle Crash
OKAY! Hear me out guys. This scarf is not ONLY for dnite. I know all of us hate Chien-Pao and we can't deny it. Its attack stat is just, splendid. Its speed is insane. To add more to that, Chien-Pao gets XUCKING SWORD OF RUIN.
Outspeeds these insane threats and kills them easily: +2 DNITE, +1 IRON VALIANT, CHIEN-PAO, +1 GHOLDENGO, DRAGAPULT, +1 MEOWSCARADA (if ur jolly or they ada).
Also, please guys. Lets not forget this thing has great physical bulk...
252+ Atk Sword of Ruin Chien-Pao Icicle Crash vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Multiscale Dragonite: 404-476 (125 - 147.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk Sword of Ruin Tera Ice Chien-Pao Sacred Sword vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Multiscale Tera Normal Dragonite: 142-168 (43.9 - 52%) -- 14.1% chance to 2HKO
252+ Atk Sword of Ruin Tera Ice Chien-Pao Ice Shard vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Multiscale Dragonite: 252-300 (78 - 92.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Sword of Ruin Tera Ice Chien-Pao Sacred Sword vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tera Normal Dragonite: 284-336 (87.9 - 104%) -- 31.3% chance to OHKO
252+ Atk Sword of Ruin Tera Ice Chien-Pao Icicle Crash vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Iron Valiant: 278-328 (96.1 - 113.4%) -- 75% chance to OHKO
252+ Atk Sword of Ruin Tera Ice Chien-Pao Sacred Sword vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Chien-Pao: 656-772 (217.9 - 256.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk Sword of Ruin Tera Ice Chien-Pao Crunch vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Gholdengo: 270-320 (71.4 - 84.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ Atk Sword of Ruin Tera Ice Chien-Pao Sacred Sword vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Meowscarada: 364-430 (124.2 - 146.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk Sword of Ruin Tera Ice Chien-Pao Ice Shard vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Roaring Moon: 320-380 (91.1 - 108.2%) -- 50% chance to OHKO
--u dont outspeed +1 speed roaring moon, but who cares? just kill easily with ice shard
252+ Atk Sword of Ruin Tera Ice Chien-Pao Sacred Sword vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Multiscale Tera Normal Dragonite: 142-168 (43.9 - 52%) -- 14.1% chance to 2HKO
252+ Atk Sword of Ruin Tera Ice Chien-Pao Ice Shard vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Multiscale Dragonite: 252-300 (78 - 92.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Sword of Ruin Tera Ice Chien-Pao Sacred Sword vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tera Normal Dragonite: 284-336 (87.9 - 104%) -- 31.3% chance to OHKO
252+ Atk Sword of Ruin Tera Ice Chien-Pao Icicle Crash vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Iron Valiant: 278-328 (96.1 - 113.4%) -- 75% chance to OHKO
252+ Atk Sword of Ruin Tera Ice Chien-Pao Sacred Sword vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Chien-Pao: 656-772 (217.9 - 256.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk Sword of Ruin Tera Ice Chien-Pao Crunch vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Gholdengo: 270-320 (71.4 - 84.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ Atk Sword of Ruin Tera Ice Chien-Pao Sacred Sword vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Meowscarada: 364-430 (124.2 - 146.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk Sword of Ruin Tera Ice Chien-Pao Ice Shard vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Roaring Moon: 320-380 (91.1 - 108.2%) -- 50% chance to OHKO
--u dont outspeed +1 speed roaring moon, but who cares? just kill easily with ice shard
252+ Atk Tera Normal Dragonite Extreme Speed vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Tera Ice Chien-Pao: 178-210 (58.9 - 69.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Voting is up! Ends Sunday!
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Rotom-Wash @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
Tera Type: Ground / Poison / Electric / Ghost
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Hydro Pump
- Volt Switch
- Will-O-Wisp
- Protect
Rotom-Wash is never a fan of taking Extreme Speeds, which is why I've labelled this set as a check instead of a counter, but this defensive set is pretty good at outlasting Dragonite without needing to Tera. Simply Will-O-Wisp on Turn 1 and do other things after that:
252+ Atk Dragonite Extreme Speed vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Rotom-Wash: 68-80 (22.3 - 26.3%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ Atk Tera Normal Dragonite Extreme Speed vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Rotom-Wash: 102-120 (33.5 - 39.4%) -- 14.1% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ Atk burned Dragonite Extreme Speed vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Rotom-Wash: 34-40 (11.1 - 13.1%) -- possibly the worst move ever
252+ Atk burned Tera Normal Dragonite Extreme Speed vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Rotom-Wash: 51-60 (16.7 - 19.7%) -- possible 7HKO after Leftovers recovery
+1 252+ Atk burned Dragonite Extreme Speed vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Rotom-Wash: 50-59 (16.4 - 19.4%) -- possible 8HKO after Leftovers recovery
+1 252+ Atk burned Tera Normal Dragonite Extreme Speed vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Rotom-Wash: 75-89 (24.6 - 29.2%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery
+2 252+ Atk burned Dragonite Extreme Speed vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Rotom-Wash: 67-79 (22 - 25.9%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery
+2 252+ Atk burned Tera Normal Dragonite Extreme Speed vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Rotom-Wash: 101-119 (33.2 - 39.1%) -- 9.8% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
+3 252+ Atk burned Dragonite Extreme Speed vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Rotom-Wash: 84-99 (27.6 - 32.5%) -- 71.8% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
+3 252+ Atk burned Tera Normal Dragonite Extreme Speed vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Rotom-Wash: 126-148 (41.4 - 48.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
0 SpA Rotom-Wash Hydro Pump vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Dragonite: 61-72 (18.8 - 22.2%) -- 85.5% chance to 4HKO after burn damage
0 SpA Rotom-Wash Hydro Pump vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Tera Normal Dragonite: 123-145 (38 - 44.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after burn damage
0 SpA Rotom-Wash Volt Switch vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Dragonite: 79-94 (24.4 - 29.1%) -- 0.2% chance to 3HKO after burn damage
Note that you don't actually need to Tera this Rotom-Wash in order to check this Dragonite with it.
Slowbro @
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
- Slack Off
- Body Press
- Future Sight
- Chilling Water
I consider Slowbro a great CW user as he also has good defense to take on anything from DD nite. Depending on the situation with CW or BP spam with the normal tera is enough.
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Great Tusk @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Protosynthesis
Tera Type: Fighting / Steel / Water
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Impish Nature
- Body Press
- Ice Spinner
- Knock Off
- Rapid Spin
The combination of Rocky Helmet, Ice Spinner and Body Press allows Great Tusk to be a decently reliable counter to most Dragonite sets. Rocky Helmet will break Multiscale, then Ice Spinner or Body Press will finish it off. Great Tusk is bulky enough to take 2 Ice Spinners from +1 Dragonite, so it cannot be outplayed using Tera if its healthy enough. Unfortunately, Great Tusk crumbles to the occasional Hurricane Dragonite, and there's nothing you can do about it except using a pre-emptive Tera or praying that your opponent is of sane mind.
0 Atk Great Tusk Ice Spinner vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Dragonite: 304-360 (94.1 - 111.4%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKO
252+ Def Great Tusk Body Press vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tera Normal Dragonite: 306-360 (94.7 - 111.4%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKO
+1 252+ Atk Dragonite Ice Spinner vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Great Tusk: 176-208 (40.5 - 47.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
4 SpA Dragonite Hurricane vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Great Tusk: 392-464 (90.3 - 106.9%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO
Corviknight @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Pressure
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD
Impish Nature
- Brave Bird / Body Press
- U-turn
- Roost
- Defog
Status: Counter
Even at +1 with Ice Spinner, Corviknight hard-walls most DD Dragonite variants, punish them with Rocky Helmet to break their Multiscale, and hit back decently hard with Brave Bird. Body Press can also be used to deal more damage to Terastallized Normal Dragonite without recoil, though you're left in between a rock and a hard place if it doesn't Tera for some reason. Also be careful of Fire Punch variants, those have a high chance of 2HKOing Corv at +1 even without the rare Fire Terastallization.
Damage calcs assume Dragonite has had its Multiscale broken thanks to Rocky Helmet.
+1 252+ Atk Tera Normal Dragonite Ice Spinner vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Corviknight: 102-121 (25.5 - 30.3%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
+1 252+ Atk Tera Normal Dragonite Extreme Speed vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Corviknight: 76-90 (19 - 22.5%) -- possible 5HKO
252+ Def Corviknight Body Press vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tera Normal Dragonite: 172-204 (53.2 - 63.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
0 Atk Corviknight Brave Bird vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tera Normal Dragonite: 120-142 (37.1 - 43.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
fwiw, if suggestions towards a submitted set are about whether they work or do work, it is up to the owner of the original post to decide to change their submission or not.
as a check because it doesn't need to use up a tera to check dragonite
Chien-Pao as a check and Corviknight as a counter.
Congratulations to xyeu and Aomori for winning this week of Victim of the Week!
Our new victim will be Dragapult!
Dragapult @ Choice Specs
Ability: Infiltrator
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Shadow Ball
- Flamethrower
- U-turn
Dragapult has continued off from SS OU with a dominant presence, whether it's Choice Specs, Choice Band or HDB, Dragapult always proposes a threat to its opponents. It's fast, strong and has great coverage. How will you deal with this monster?
Submissions end Friday!
Our new victim will be Dragapult!
Dragapult @ Choice Specs
Ability: Infiltrator
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Shadow Ball
- Flamethrower
- U-turn
Dragapult has continued off from SS OU with a dominant presence, whether it's Choice Specs, Choice Band or HDB, Dragapult always proposes a threat to its opponents. It's fast, strong and has great coverage. How will you deal with this monster?
Submissions end Friday!
Wigglytuff @ Leftovers / Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Competitive
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 248 HP / 8 SpA / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Wish
- Protect
- Thunder Wave
- Dazzling Gleam
Say hello to the ultimate counter. Immune to both STABs, and takes next to nothing on coverage. Can contribute to the team with Wish and TWave support while threatening to 2HKO Dragapult with Dazzling Gleam.
252 SpA Choice Specs Dragapult Flamethrower vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Wigglytuff: 133-157 (27.5 - 32.5%) -- 67.4% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
8 SpA Wigglytuff Dazzling Gleam vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Dragapult: 192-228 (60.5 - 71.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
All praise the better Scream Tail.
Here's this fatass as a Check
Ting-Lu @ Leftovers
Ability: Vessel of Ruin
Tera Type: Poison
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Careful Nature
- Earthquake
- Whirlwind
- Stealth Rock
- Spikes
This thing doesn't care at all about anything Dragapult does, easily tanking anything Dragapult can throw at it and freely set up hazards or just go for the good chance of the 2HKO, forcing it to U-turn out.
252 SpA Choice Specs Dragapult Draco Meteor over 2 turns vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Vessel of Ruin Ting-Lu: 250-295 (48.6 - 57.3%) -- not a KO
252 SpA Choice Specs Tera Ghost Dragapult Flamethrower vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Vessel of Ruin Ting-Lu: 77-91 (14.9 - 17.7%) -- possible 9HKO after Leftovers recovery
0 Atk Ting-Lu Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Dragapult: 148-175 (46.6 - 55.2%) -- 68.8% chance to 2HKO
Ting-Lu @ Leftovers
Ability: Vessel of Ruin
Tera Type: Poison
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Careful Nature
- Earthquake
- Whirlwind
- Stealth Rock
- Spikes
This thing doesn't care at all about anything Dragapult does, easily tanking anything Dragapult can throw at it and freely set up hazards or just go for the good chance of the 2HKO, forcing it to U-turn out.
252 SpA Choice Specs Dragapult Draco Meteor over 2 turns vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Vessel of Ruin Ting-Lu: 250-295 (48.6 - 57.3%) -- not a KO
252 SpA Choice Specs Tera Ghost Dragapult Flamethrower vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Vessel of Ruin Ting-Lu: 77-91 (14.9 - 17.7%) -- possible 9HKO after Leftovers recovery
0 Atk Ting-Lu Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Dragapult: 148-175 (46.6 - 55.2%) -- 68.8% chance to 2HKO
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Meowscarada @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Protean
Tera Type: Dark / Grass
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Knock Off
- Play Rough
- U-turn
- Flower Trick
In a meta where the viable Choice Scarf user meta starts at outspeeding Specs Dragapult and continues climbing up, Meowscarada is in a pretty good position as a Scarfer that outspeeds and OHKOs other Scarfers. Of course, since this Dragapult is Tera Ghost, Meowscarada makes quick work of it:
252+ Atk Meowscarada Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Dragapult: 392-464 (123.6 - 146.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
(252 SpA Choice Specs Dragapult Draco Meteor vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Meowscarada: 354-417 (120.8 - 142.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO)
Bonus points for also outspeeding and OHKOing Scarf Gholdengo and making anyone who wants to try Scarf Hydreigon or Sandy Shocks really regret their choices.
Meowscarada @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Protean
Tera Type: Dark / Grass
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Knock Off
- Play Rough
- U-turn
- Flower Trick
In a meta where the viable Choice Scarf user meta starts at outspeeding Specs Dragapult and continues climbing up, Meowscarada is in a pretty good position as a Scarfer that outspeeds and OHKOs other Scarfers. Of course, since this Dragapult is Tera Ghost, Meowscarada makes quick work of it:
252+ Atk Meowscarada Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Dragapult: 392-464 (123.6 - 146.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
(252 SpA Choice Specs Dragapult Draco Meteor vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Meowscarada: 354-417 (120.8 - 142.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO)
Bonus points for also outspeeding and OHKOing Scarf Gholdengo and making anyone who wants to try Scarf Hydreigon or Sandy Shocks really regret their choices.