Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [PALAFIN RETEST]

My honest reaction (real.):
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Lessgo now I can bring Walking Woke back with the tera-less meta- wait a minute.. this is OU, lame :/
I'm outta here (what do you mean someone is behind me?)
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Now give me haha's or else I will have a Max Design Pro gifs in one of my next messages with no context
 
pika pal said:
Yeah, just wanted to confirm where to ask if the initial rules post had anything I didn't quite follow (EX: Reaction Score is equivalent to Likes vs excluding things like Angry/Sad/Haha ones that weren't "Like" reactions specifically)

The Suspect one is a funny experiment because of the number of steps it goes through to work: Besides getting everyone to pool behind picking an option, subsequently it'd also have to actually make the 60% threshold to change anything, so raw numbers first and then ratio on the next step.
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UT replied in the thread confirming that it's all reaction score, not just Likes.

UT said:
Reaction score in general yes
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EDIT: Yes give me my likes, I will gamble it all away in the store.
 
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powergo1 said:
Tera (blast) is a lame suspect (unless its for tera preview or tera cap then its fine), go radical and give us something like Lugia (or whatever else derails the conversation here)
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Palafin and Solgaleo were cited as things that could be chosen, Lugia might not actually be as farfetched a derail as it seemed before in that context.

Meanwhile me trying to determine if it would be funnier to try Landorus or a Giratina if I had any sway over such a Suspect vote.
 
pika pal said:
Palafin and Solgaleo were cited as things that could be chosen, Lugia might not actually be as farfetched a derail as it seemed before in that context.

Meanwhile me trying to determine if it would be funnier to try Landorus or a Giratina if I had any sway over such a Suspect vote.
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Dumb idea: suspect all of them at the same time
 
Why don't we just.... have a survey/vote on the next suspect.... then just do that.
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This splintered community isn't going to kumbaya around a campfire holding hands and pool together an obscene amount of resources to have a suspect. When you factor in the rewards for cashing in points for yourself, the thought of potentially wasting them all if the suspect like threshold isn't reached is just another road block towards getting this done.

The Likeshop is cute but lacks transparency and relies on a "just trust me bro" system when it comes to gambling and mystery boxes, but funny enough I do trust bro lol so it's fine actually.

The suspect idea is cool but the execution of the idea is off. If we don't want to have a standard survey and want to try out this "spending likes" thing there are better ways to do it. There could be a separate thread where players can spend their likes on a list of predetermined suspect choices and we go from there. This wouldn't affect spending likes for yourself in the shop. There's definitely something cool here but needs a little work. I appreciate the novel approach to tiering and the community interaction but this needs to be polished a bit more for it to work properly. At least a little bit of structure would be helpful.

Has anyone even done the math on this? 500,000? What does the average user have, like 3k? We can even steel-man this argument and say the average person has 10,000 reaction score (they don't) that's 50 people cashing in all their points- all agreeing on the same suspect, forgoing the cool rewards for cashing in for themselves, and praying 49 other people do the same... Can we tighten this up please dude.
 
we have the power to suspect test literally anything and you guys are really choosing we unban the most boring uber
it's 500k likes, go crazy. unban chi-yu, ban moves above 100 bp, ban status, ban blissey/dozo/stallmon of your choice, literally whatever you can think of

edit: "wasting everyone's time" only counts as an argument if "everyone" agrees that their time has been wasted. therefore, a dondozo suspect is on the table based on vibes alone. checkmate finchpilled oumaxxers
 
LoseToRU? said:
Why don't we just.... have a survey/vote on the next suspect.... then just do that.
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This splintered community isn't going to kumbaya around a campfire holding hands and pool together an obscene amount of resources to have a suspect. When you factor in the rewards for cashing in points for yourself, the thought of potentially wasting them all if the suspect like threshold isn't reached is just another road block towards getting this done.

The Likeshop is cute but lacks transparency and relies on a "just trust me bro" system when it comes to gambling and mystery boxes, but funny enough I do trust bro lol so it's fine actually.

The suspect idea is cool but the execution of the idea is off. If we don't want to have a standard survey and want to try out this "spending likes" thing there are better ways to do it. There could be a separate thread where players can spend their likes on a list of predetermined suspect choices and we go from there. This wouldn't affect spending likes for yourself in the shop. There's definitely something cool here but needs a little work. I appreciate the novel approach to tiering and the community interaction but this needs to be polished a bit more for it to work properly. At least a little bit of structure would be helpful.

Has anyone even done the math on this? 500,000? What does the average user have, like 3k? We can even steel-man this argument and say the average person has 10,000 reaction score (they don't) that's 50 people cashing in all their points- all agreeing on the same suspect, forgoing the cool rewards for cashing in for themselves, and praying 49 other people do the same... Can we tighten this up please dude.
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Man wrote an essay complaining about Likeshop integrity of all things

It’s incredibly possible to get to 500k likes if people were remotely together and tactical about it. If you spend your time being lame like this, then obviously it’ll be over before it begins.
 
AerionT said:
So the thing that was going to put OU in a frenzy is the remote possibility of doing a random suspect test? With all due respect, this is disappointing and lame.
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Same with shit like this. You cannot say a potential retest of Palafin or test of Tera Blast wouldn’t be a big metagame mover. And the possibility clearly isn’t remote if you just do a little math into how many active users are on the site.
 
TheDuckChris said:
Attention: I have officially started the campaign for a Tera Blast Suspect Test. With my own likes we are 0.5% of the way there. Please consider contributing in the thread.

Tera blast is a controversial element that brings back shades of Hidden Power, and a test on this element could notably reduce tera variance to be more restricted by a Pokemon's movepool. No more tera electric DD Kyurem

Tera blast ban could also possibly open up usage of some banned pokemon such as Regieleki
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The link you attached doesn't work for me but I'm all in for cashing in for a tera blast suspect if that's what it takes
 
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