Bold School was the one who claimed to have game design knowledge (and thus claimed to understand it better than the average person) before anyone so I don't know why you're singling Buzzwole out for this.
It's kinda hard for surprise factor alone to hold up for more than 2 or 3 switches since most of the times a low tier mon in OU is gonna be choiced and if its not you'll catch on really fast. Bulkier mons also have the issue of just being a worse version of an OU defensive mon and you can play around it as such. The mon needa to have a consistent gameplan and a legitimate role as if it was a bad OU/UUBL mon instead of just "haha here's an ru shitmon guess what item it has"
Still doesn't make it a valid argument. Catching on and consistency doesn't matter as much within tour use, but is true on the ladder.
I'm not talking about a single game, I mean in general. A good set with surprise factor will function even when it's known about, because it has practical applications and isn't gimmicky or just running a set that's worse than an existing mon. Yes, surprise factor will wear off after a couple switches I'm not arguing against that. I'm just pointing out that you can't rely solely on surprise factor to carry something.
I'm not saying it does, I'm saying it's silly to criticize one person for using it when another person did it first.
True, doesn't mean a set is completely unviable. Av on bulky fast offense mon will always have applications
Fair. Both are out of their depths.
Why are people still stuck on this? It was a small part of a response relating to a very specific discussion from the purely hypothetical Koko OU debate awhile back. One you continued with me in DMs until you got tired of it or whatever. If you have some feelings about it, feel free to DM me.
I thought you were originally criticizing him for one upping or something. His context was quite different than mine. Anyways...
Well, that isn't a very nice thing to say... Garganacl has feelings, too. He's just trying to make do in a meta where everyone is against him.
This thread seems to get derailed really easily for whatever reason, and it always ends up going in the same way - a page or two of discourse before recentering on discussion... before going back to discourse.
Ogerpon-Cornerstone is honestly a really fun pokemon to play with for me. It can just break bulky teams wide open after a +2 with its STAB combination and knock off. It takes a lot of effort to get it on the field with its shaky typing, but the rewards are well worth it.
I swear I am not copying the mcribs guy, but Ogerpon-Cornerstone is my favorite Pokemon in SV OU. Having the rare access to a consistent Rock stab move complimented by good immediate power and utility with stuff like Encore Spikes, it's a super good breaker who's set can be pretty personalized to the team it's on. Sturdy also is a nice thing to play with, having to keep off hazards to keep up sturdy or have grassy terrain up to get it back after Stealth Rocks makes it an interesting aspect of an already unique Pokemon. There's a lot more stuff I could talk about but I think you guys get the gist already lol.
Choice Band Hoopa-Unbound. Tera Dark blows everything up with no fear of contact punishment (Hyperspace Fury is non contact, bypasses Sub and Protect). Protect is the biggest non-tera-Dark counter to Future Sight combos, so this is awesome. Also screw
Ok now that im thinking of AV, yknow what would be really neat and can bring a mon back from the brink? AV Moltres-Galar(this sounds kinda dumb but hear me out)
Hold on, this is just almost saucy enough to make me wonder...
Meowscarada. I love my silly cat who does silly poses for me to clap at. We have rough times but we will survive. #MeowForOU4Ever
Even though I use so much different stuff it’s hard for me to really get used to a “favourite”, whenever I do use it I love Samurott-Hisui. My favourite starter’s regional form that also happens to be a strong attacker that always makes progress with every move it clicks. Especially Ceaseless Edge. Swords Dance sets are underexplored imo
Mixed LO D-speed with 4 attacks and Tera Dark Knock Off. Outrun the entire unboosted metagame with very few checks besides the metal birds and some Fairy types. You only a + speed nature. Put the rest into the attacking stats or even put roughly 200 into each offensive stat and save the leftover EVs for speed to outrun some + 1 things.
Probably Hydrapple, I'm really glad it's getting right now the attention and merit it always deserved. It was already decent and perfectly viable before Kyurem's ban, and the ban just made it that people will appreciate it even more.
Iron Crown is the absolute goat
For clarity, is this with potential for a Suspect within a foreseeable time frame, or more along the lines of "these are the subjects to watch for Suspect Worthiness" as things continue to develop? I know we have a couple mons for which people probably have stuff to talk about, but I also remember a sentiment of giving time after Kyurem and Gouging since their disappearance definitely eases the Teambuilder.
I kind of hope it is tera blast, because I think now would be a good time to suspect it as I think it has gotten a lot more support recently
We are discussing the possibility of a Gliscor suspect in the near future. That does not guarantee it will happen, but that’s my most transparent account of the situation.
Garg needs to go away forever.
