Stuff I'm doing: East of Eden

"The Salinas Valley is in Northern California. It is a long narrow swale between two ranges of mountains, and the Salinas River winds and twists up the center until it falls at last into Monterey Bay.

"I remember my childhood names for grasses and secret flowers. I remember where a toad may live and what time the birds awaken in the summer - and what trees and seasons smelled like - how people looked and walked and smelled even. The memory of odors is very rich."
I used to beeline toward gaming-type threads in this forum. However, I found that I quickly lost interest because the topicality was so broad, so people just put their own chips in the pile. I also tried to get into threads about specific games, but the poorly constructed OPs did little to encourage talking. I wanted discussion. It just so happens, though, that at the time I've thought of posting this thread, it is about a book rather than a game.

Everyone automatically knows about this book now thanks to Oprah. For a long time, I wasn't very interested in contributing to the Oprah Effect, but a few years passed and I came upon the book. I loved Of Mice and Men, so I expected the same out of East of Eden. So far, it has been a great read, but I only use the word "masterpiece" to describe works that I've completed, so that qualifier will have to wait.

I'll keep this short. This book is certainly a very ambitious one. I don't know how many people here have read the Bible, but the experience is very similar to that (not surprising considering it sort of does try to make such connections with the Bible). A big difference is that, being blatantly fictional, the author can go into the thoughts and detailed experiences of the many, many characters. All of the characters manage to have his or her own rich, vibrant personality and wisdom, and every death brings a striking sadness. Maybe it's the similarities to the Bible that make the story so insightful, and not at all in a preachy way, either. It's great to see the deep perspectives of the conservative businessman and the ever-dreaming engineer, the man who only sees good and the woman who only sees evil, and of course the Chinese servant is always a welcome presence.

So I guess if you've also read the book, you can talk about the characters or the scenery or the themes or the wealth of great quotes. There are way too many of each of them, and just when you think it can't go any further, the parrot calls you a bastard.
 
I read this book last year.
It was really, really awful.
Then again one of my friends really liked it so to each his own.
There are a lot of subtle (and not-so-subtle) references to the bible, so if you're a devoted Christian that should help.

Also does this mean every Smogon user can post about what they're up to because I think the repercussions could be disastrous.
 
People already post about what they're "up to". I just tried to give mine a direction and I wasn't afraid to say what it was. Regardless, it's an experiment of sorts. I'm sorry you didn't like the book, though :(
 
For some reason I thought this thread was gonna be about Eden of the Eash, a rather disappointingly boring anime. I'm relieved.
 
I read this back in high school and loved it--definitely one of my favorites. The theme of personal choice/forging your own destiny (might sound a bit cliche but if you haven't read it just trust me it was presented more artfully in the book) has always resonated pretty strongly with me, and I loved all the intricate Biblical and generational parallels/deviations. It's been years since we studied it, so I don't have much more to contribute off the top of my head... I really hope you enjoy the rest, though. It's one of the few required reading books I remember being genuinely moved by.

(was also really excited when my friend hooked me up with Mumford & Sons last year and I realized they referenced it!)
 
This was the book where I found Steinbeck's agenda pushing to be most annoying. I think I've only read grapes of wrath and this one, but that part of this annoyed me.

The Hamiltons? were great, but the other characters I didnt really have much interest in I think. Possibly because the Hamiltons were based on real people..

I did like The Grapes of Wrath a lot more than this one, I have never read Of Mice and Men..

Have a nice day.
 
I think I've read this book, but I'm not sure..... I'll describe the book I'm thinking of:

The book is divided into sections, the sections being named after the characters: The Sheriff, The Wife, The Son, etc. The story is that this newly wed couple wants to have a baby, but they find out that the husband is sterile. Well the wife goes to this witch/medicine women to find away for them to have a baby. They try some things but they didn't work, so the medicine women tells her to bang her neighbor and get her pregnant. She does, some shenanigans happen, the husband finds out and kills the neighbor, some shenanigans happen and they get away with it.(I didn't read all the book or I can't remember how it ends though)
 
I have never been able to get through East of Eden, autobiographical fiction i find to be very hit or miss for me.

I really like Of Mice and Men, and it is the only work by Steinbeck that I actually like. Grapes of Wrath was well-written, but the structure of the novel bothered me, and I wasn't really satisfied by the plot. The intent of Steinbeck in writing Grapes of Wrath wasn't to impress anyone with his plot or structure, but with his harshly real subject matter, and to that end I feel he succeeded. I'm just not a fan of his narration.

What I'm Currently Reading:

Walk in the Light-Tolstoy
Kafka on the Shore-Murakami (people on this site tell me his great, and I read After the Quake, which was well-written and enjoyable even if I found the stories unfulfilling)
The Decline of the English Murder- Giving Orwell a second chance even though I will continue to say that 1984 is a awful.
 
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