Ubers Shuckle

[LBDC]

[SET]
name: Sticky Web setter
move 1: Sticky Web
move 2: Stealth Rock
move 3: Encore
move 4: Final Gambit
item: Mental Herb
ability: Sturdy
nature: Impish
evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]
Shuckle's ability to set up Stealth Rock allows it to differentiate from Ribombee, the other common Sticky Web user in the Ubers metagame. Access to Encore and Final Gambit help to prevent setup sweepers, such as Swords Dance Zacian-C, from taking advantage of Shuckle's passivity. Final Gambit also allows Shuckle to escape from Shadow Tag users such as Gothitelle, though it does require Shuckle to sacrifice itself. Mental Herb allows Shuckle to set up Sticky Web against Taunt users such as Mew, and Sturdy allows Shuckle to avoid being OHKOed by a very powerful move such as Zacian-C's Behemoth Blade. Maximum investment into HP and Defense is run to avoid the 2HKO of from Zacian-C's Play Rough almost all of the time. However, Shuckle's lack of any offensive pressure makes it struggle against Magic Bounce users such as Hatterene. Moreover, as way to prevent setup, Encore is quite unreliable, since it relies on prediction and can be bypassed by the foe through Dynamaxing. Zacian-C, for example, can force you into an unfavorable mindgame between setting Sticky Web or using Encore to prevent a potential Sword Dance or Substitute. The prevalence of Corviknight as the main Defogger is also unfavorable, since it can spam Defog and stall out Sticky Web's PP thanks to Pressure without being affected by Shuckle.

Shuckle's Sticky Web and Stealth Rock are appreciated by any hyper offense team. However, it is important in a Sticky Web team to have some countermeasures to Ditto, since it ignores the Speed drop from Sticky Web thanks to Imposter and can revenge kill setup sweepers. Since Substitute prevents Imposter from working, users of Substitute like Zacian-C and Gyarados are good partners for Shuckle. Trappers such as Dugtrio and Gothitelle are good teammates, since they can remove problematic Pokemon for Sticky Web teams, such as Zacian-C for Dugtrio case and Corviknight for Gothitelle.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[LaBalladeDesCieux, 464398]]
- Quality checked by: [[Cynara, 224455], [Nayrz, 212134]]
- Grammar checked by: [[Estronic, 240732]]

 

[Cynara]

Stealth Rock is really the only thing Shuckle gets over Ribombee, its not very fantastic in comparison otherwise.

Final Gambit is also a gain momentum for Shuckle's teammates, by sacrificing Shuckle.

One useful application of Final Gambit is its ability to escape trappers Like Gothitelle. Which is usually more practical than this mention.

A full investment into physical bulk is running to avoid the 2HKO of Zacian-C's Play Rough almost always, allowing Shuckle to potentially Encore the Zacian-C after that Sticky Web has been settle. However, even with move like Encore or Final Gambit, Shuckle is still passive, struggle to deal any damage. Therefore, Shuckle is totally blocked by Magic Bounce users such as Hatterene, which can set up on Shuckle freely.

This kinda is fluff and makes it a long preview analysis for something that is simply a suicide lead. This can be really cut and the Important information can be reduced to something like the following: "Shuckle is completely reliant on status moves and therefore very passive, and is shut down by Magic Bounce users such as Hatterene with no real means of posing a threat" please rewrite this into your own words.

Encoring a Zacian-C isn't really the best of uses of Encore either so these mentions can just be removed.

Everything else looks ok in my opinion.

implement for QC: 1/2

 

[LBDC]

Implemented the QC Check! (I have also edited a bit the overall prose) Should be ready for QC#2.

 

[Nayrz]

i really dislike webs in this meta and shuckle as a user of it even more but ill roll with it for now

while Sturdy allow Shuckle to avoid OHKO from very powerful move such as Life Orb Excadrill's Max Steelspike under Dynamaxing.

I'd just note Zacian-C's Behemoth Blade, this mention is a mouthful

However, it is important in a Sticky Web-based team to have some countermeasures to Ditto, since Ditto ignores the Speed drop from Sticky Web thank to Imposter and can revenge kill set up sweeper.

I think dealing with Zac leads and Corviknight pressure are the most annoying things. If Zacian leads vs Shuckle you have to encore or it could Sub or SD, which is a really big problem for the kinda mons Webs uses (relies on offensive pressure/Dugtrio/Zacian being slowed). If you Encore on its attacks then Behemoth Blade will kill you before webs go up. Then there's keeping webs vs Corviknight which is almost impossible in the long run. There's also the issue where mons generally dont need webs to succeed or webs is useless (see any slightly fatter mu). Webs is gambling on similar levels to moody or baton pass teams in my opinion. See if this preview can be more accurately worded to reflect its meta status before i stamp.

 

[LBDC]

Edited, mentioned Zacian/Corvi issues at the end of the first paragraph, not the second.

 

[Nayrz]

A Zacian-C can for example forcing Shuckle user into unfavorable mindgame between set the Sticky Web and do Encore to prevent potential Sword Dance or Substitute.

add this bit for clarity

Powerful Pokemon such as Choice Band Zamazenta, are also good options for teammates thank to their natural wallbreaking power, allowing to break commons walls such as Quagsire. Finally, Ghost-types like Polteageist can block Rapid Spin, preventing Sticky Web from being removed.

I'd drop these mentions (CB Zama doesn't need webs to be good, spinblocking is a rare practice) and replace it with trappers. Webs teams need trappers to function. Goth can trap Corviknight, Dugtrio can trap a bunch of annoying offensive mons, etc.

implement for QC 2/2

 

[Astra]

add remove (comments)

shucks

[SET]
name: Sticky Web setter
move 1: Sticky Web
move 2: Stealth Rock
move 3: Encore
move 4: Final Gambit
item: Mental Herb
ability: Sturdy
nature: Impish
evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]
As Sticky Web setter, Shuckle's ability to set up Stealth Rock allows it Shuckle to differentiate from Ribombee, the other common Sticky Web user in the Ubers metagame. Access to Encore and Final Gambit help to prevent set up sweeper setup sweepers, such as Swords Dance Zacian-C, to take from taking advantage of Shuckle's passivity. Final Gambit, (RC) by sacrificing Shuckle, (RC) also allows Shuckle to escape from Shadow Tag users such as Gothitelle, (AC) though it does require Shuckle to sacrifice itself (better flow and more clarity tbh). In addition to that, (RC) Mental Herb allows Shuckle to set up Sticky Web against Taunt users such as Mew, while and Sturdy allows Shuckle to avoid being OHKOed by a from very powerful move such as Zacian-C's Behemoth Blade. A full Maximum investment into physical bulk HP and Defense is running to avoid the 2HKO of from Zacian-C's Play Rough almost always all of the time. However, Shuckle's lack of any offensive pressure outside Encore and makes it struggle against Magic Bounce users such as Hatterene (i wouldn't really call encore "offensive pressure," plus magic bounce reflects encore anyways). Moreover, as way to prevent setup (no space), Encore is quite unreliable, since it is relies on prediction-reliant and can be bypassed by the foe through Dynamaxing. A Zacian-C, (AC) can for example, (AC) can force you forcing Shuckle user into an unfavorable mindgame between setting the Sticky Web and do or using Encore to prevent a potential Sword Dance or Substitute. The prevalence of Corviknight as the main Defogger isn't also unfavorable, since it can spam Defog and PP stall out Sticky Web's PP thanks to Pressure, (RC) without being affected by Shuckle.

Shuckle's Sticky Web, and potentially and Stealth Rock, (RC) (rocks isn't slashed with anything so you're assumed to have it) are appreciated by any hyper offensive offense team. However, it is important in a Sticky Web-based team to have some countermeasures to Ditto, since Ditto it ignores the Speed drop from Sticky Web thanks to Imposter and can revenge kill setup (no space) sweepers. Since Substitute prevents Imposter from working, users of Substitute like Zacian-C and Gyarados are good partners for Shuckle. Trappers such as Dugtrio and Gothitelle are good teammates, since they can remove problematic Pokemon to for Sticky Web teams, like such as Zacian-C in for Dugtrio case and Corviknight for Gothitelle.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[LaBalladeDesCieux, 464398]]
- Quality checked by: [[Cynara, 224455], [Nayrz, 212134]]
- Grammar checked by: [[username1, userid1]]

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[LBDC]

Thanks Estronic

Done, ready for upload!