Ubers Ribombee

katerina

Banned deucer.
[OVERVIEW]

Ribombee is the only viable Sticky Web user in Ubers. It has a niche as a lead for hyper offense teams that is capable of preventing Koraidon from using Scale Shot while potentially paralyzing a threat with Stun Spore. It is just fast enough to outrun Pokemon that commonly run Taunt, like Arceus, while discouraging Koraidon and Miraidon from staying in on it thanks to its STAB Moonblast. Unfortunately for Ribombee, it can be played around by select antileads like Iron Treads and other leads like Glimmora, both of which can prevent Sticky Web from going up pretty consistently. The presence of Zacian-C in the tier can also make Ribombee's job harder, as its user will have to decide to either use Sticky Web or risk Stun Spore missing.

[SET]

Sticky Web (Ribombee) @ Focus Sash
Ability: Shield Dust
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Sticky Web
- Moonblast
- Stun Spore / Psychic Noise
- Tailwind / Pounce

[SET COMMENTS]

Sticky Web keeps threats like Zacian-C, Koraidon, non-Heavy-Duty Boots Miraidon, and most Arceus formes in check and allows for the use of non-Speed boosting natures on common hyper offense teammates like Miraidon. Moonblast targets Pokemon that could try to antilead Ribombee, like Taunt Miraidon; if Miraidon decides to Taunt Ribombee to prevent Sticky Web from going up, it will get 2HKOed by Moonblast. Stun Spore is Ribombee's best option against foes such as Ho-Oh and Arceus formes, as they don't mind Moonblast too much and run Heavy-Duty Boots to negate Sticky Web. Alternatively, Psychic Noise can be used to 2HKO Glimmora while negating Recover from Pokemon like Arceus and Clodsire, as well as Roost from Corviknight. Tailwind is a more immediate option that allows for teammates like Necrozma-DM to be faster than Heavy-Duty Boots foes like Miraidon and Zacian-C, as well as Flying-types like offensive Ho-Oh. Pounce can be used as an alternative, as it helps Ribombee beat Miraidon one-on-one if it uses Taunt instead of breaking Ribombee's Focus Sash with Electro Drift while also helping Ribombee eventually use Sticky Web against Deoxys-S. However, Deoxys-S is not common enough to justify its use.

Tera Steel gives Ribombee a Poison immunity, which helps against Glimmora by not letting it use Mortal Spin to clear Sticky Web.

Ribombee should be only used on hyper offense teams. Good teammates include Koraidon, Miraidon, Necrozma-DM, Zacian-C, Arceus formes, and other threats like Kyurem-B, Chien-Pao, and Kingambit. Kyurem-B and Rayquaza especially like Sticky Web because it lets them outspeed Arceus formes. Grimmsnarl can be another good teammate due to its ability to further support Ribombee's team with dual screens, allowing for an even easier time setting up.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]

Other Options

====

Choice Scarf can be run on Ribombee to outspeed Taunt Miraidon and use Sticky Web before Miraidon can attack. This makes Ribombee consistently able to get Sticky Web up in almost every game. Its only downside, however, is that Ribombee then gets OHKOed by any attack thrown at it, mainly Choice Scarf Koraidon's Flare Blitz.

Quiver Dance is an option for Ribombee to break Zacian-C's Substitute with Moonblast in one turn. However, Substitute Zacian-C is very rare and thus not worth preparing for generally, and Ribombee much prefers using other moves like Stun Spore.

Tera Ghost can be run instead of Tera Steel to prevent Arceus's Extreme Speed from revenge killing Ribombee; this gives the Ribombee user more turns to damage Arceus with Moonblast or cripple it with Stun Spore. However, Ribombee much rather prefers being immune to Glimmora's Mortal Spin, as Arceus can be dealt with very easily.

Checks and Counters

====

**Taunt**: Taunt Miraidon prevents Ribombee from using Sticky Web, thus nullifying its threat. However, it gets 2HKOed by Moonblast, making the interaction a tricky mindgame. Other Pokemon like Deoxys-S can annoy Ribombee with attacks like Psycho Boost or Extreme Speed after Taunting it while setting free Stealth Rock or Spikes. While weak to Moonblast, Grimmsnarl can prevent Ribombee's Sticky Web with its Prankster Taunt. It also can use Light Screen and Parting Shot to turn Ribombee into setup fodder for one of its teammates.

**Entry Hazard Removal**: Glimmora can keep Sticky Web off the field with Mortal Spin while breaking Ribombee's Focus Sash and potentially forcing it to use Tera Steel to ensure that Mortal Spin fails. Corviknight can comfortably set up on Ribombee with Iron Defense while clearing Sticky Web away with Defog, making it a potential threat to Ribombee's team afterwards if said team has no special attackers.

**Trick Room Users**: Trick Room can turn the tables on Ribombee and its Sticky Web, as the decrease in Speed by one stage can allow for the foe's Trick Room Necrozma-DM to be faster than Ribombee's team. Other Trick Room users like Calyrex-I also work similarly to Necrozma-DM.

**Heavy-Duty Boots**: Pokemon like Miraidon commonly run Heavy-Duty Boots, which renders Sticky Web useless. Other common users of Heavy-Duty Boots include Kyogre, Chien-Pao, Arceus, and Koraidon.

**Hatterene**: Hatterene's Magic Bounce completely nullifies Ribombee's Sticky Web.

**Orthworm**: Orthworm can use Shed Tail to bring a teammate like Zacian-C or Agility Miraidon into play to break through Ribombee's team with extreme ease.

[SET CREDITS]

Written by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/corvere.306317/
Quality checked by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/lasen.273339/
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/aberforth.249382/
Grammar checked by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/aurora.109385/
 
Last edited:
:sv/ribombee:

[OVERVIEW]

Ribombee is the only viable Sticky Web user in Ubers. Its niche in the format is that of a lead for hyper offense teams that is capable of preventing Koraidon from clicking Scale Shot while potentially paralyzing a threat with Stun Spore. It is just fast enough to outrun Pokemon that commonly run Taunt in their moveset, like Arceus, while discouraging Koraidon and Miraidon from staying in on it thanks to its STAB Moonblast. Moreover, Ribombee can also sometimes work as an antilead Pokemon, capable of beating and preventing entry hazards from Glimmora and Deoxys formes.
I'd mention that bee has noticeable weaknesses to Pokemon created to counter-lead it; Iron Treads is a noticeable example and when facing Zacian-C the lead matchup becomes much more difficult.

[SET]

Sticky Web (Ribombee) @ Focus Sash
Ability: Shield Dust
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Sticky Web
- Moonblast
- Stun Spore / Psychic Noise
- Pounce / Tailwind

[SET COMMENTS]

Sticky Web is devastating for offensive teams to deal with, and Ribombee is the best user of the move.
Already brought up in overview and it's more fluff in comments Sticky Web allows to keep threats like Zacian-C, Koraidon, non-Heavy-Duty Boots Miraidon, and most Arceus formes in check and permitting for the use of non-Speed boosting natures on common teammates in hyper offense like Miraidon. Moonblast targets Pokemon that could try to antilead Ribombee, like Taunt Miraidon; if Miraidon decides to Taunt Ribombee to prevent Sticky Web from going up, it will get 2HKOed by Moonblast. Stun Spore is Ribombee's best option against foes such as Ho-Oh and Arceus formes, as those don't mind Moonblast too much and, in the case of EKiller Arceus, while running Heavy-Duty Boots to negate Sticky Web maybe an ESL moment on my part but this last bit doesn't make sense to me?. Instead, Psychic Noise could be used to 2HKO Glimmora while negating Ho-Oh's Regenerator once. Pounce helps Ribombee beat Miraidon one-on-one had it clicked Taunt instead of breaking Ribombee's Focus Sash with Electro Drift, while also helping Ribombee to eventually use Sticky Web in the face of Deoxys-S. Tailwind can be used instead for a more immediate option to allow for teammates like Necrozma-DM to be faster than Heavy-Duty Boots foes like Miraidon or Flying-types like offensive Ho-Oh. I think tailwind is much better and has seen more usage, especially so during ULT so it should be first slash, especially with Deo-S falling out of favor more and more

Tera Steel allows Ribombee to be immune to Poison, which helps against Glimmora by not letting it use Mortal Spin to clear Sticky Web.

Ribombee should be only used in hyper offense teams. Good teammates include Koraidon, Miraidon, Kingambit, Necrozma-DM, Zacian-C, Arceus formes, and other threats like Kyurem-B, Chien-Pao, and Calyrex-I hard to recommend the TR Pokemon to be used next to a Sticky Web setter, even if it makes sense on higher levels of play. Grimmsnarl can be another good teammate due to its ability to further support Ribombee's team with dual screens, allowing for an even easier time setting up.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
====

Choice Scarf can be run for Ribombee to outspeed Taunt Miraidon and use Sticky Web before Miraidon can attack. This makes Ribombee consistently able to get Sticky Web almost in every game. Its only downside, however, comes from making Ribombee now able to get OHKOed by any attack thrown at it. Bring up losing to Flare Blitz from Choice Scarf Koraidon here

Quiver Dance is an option for Ribombee to break Zacian-C's Substitute with Moonblast in one turn. However, Substitute Zacian-C is very rare and thus not worth preparing for generally, and Ribombee much rather prefers using other moves like Stun Spore.

Tera Ghost mention here and why it's sub-optimal
Checks and Counters
====

**Taunt**: Taunt Miraidon prevents Ribombee from using Sticky Web, thus nullifying its threat. However, it gets 2HKOed by Moonblast, making the interaction a tricky mindgame. Other Pokemon like Deoxys-S can annoy Ribombee with attacks like Psycho Boost or Extreme Speed after Taunting it while having free Stealth Rock or Spikes. Grimmsnarl mention goes here

**Entry Hazard Removal**: Glimmora can keep Sticky Web off the field with Mortal Spin while breaking Ribombee's Focus Sash and potentially forcing a Tera Steel to ensure it can't remove the Sticky Web. Corviknight can comfortably setup on Ribombee with Iron Defense while cleaning Sticky Web away with Defog, making it a potential threat to Ribombee's team afterwards if said team has no special attackers.

**Trick Room Users**: While not directly threatening Ribombee itself, foes like Necrozma-DM and Calyrex-I can benefit from Sticky Web by making potential Speed ties go their way in TR.

**Hatterene**: Bounce


maybe mention Orthworm here which can make a slow Shed Tail pass to a teammate like DD Miraidon and make your life hell. another option is Toxic Spikes setters because things like Clodsire and Toxapex can be a huge nuisance, especially so if you're not running Psychic Noise.


[SET CREDITS]
Written by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/corvere.306317/
Quality checked by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/lasen.273339/
[QC checker 2's profile link]
Grammar checked by:
[GP checker's profile link]

1/2
QC_stamp.gif
 
:sv/ribombee:

[OVERVIEW]

Ribombee is the only viable Sticky Web user in Ubers. Its niche in the format is that of a lead for hyper offense teams that is capable of preventing Koraidon from clicking Scale Shot while potentially paralyzing a threat with Stun Spore. It is just fast enough to outrun Pokemon that commonly run Taunt in their moveset, like Arceus, while discouraging Koraidon and Miraidon from staying in on it thanks to its STAB Moonblast. Moreover, Ribombee can also sometimes work as an antilead Pokemon, capable of beating and preventing entry hazards from Glimmora and Deoxys formes.
I'd mention that bee has noticeable weaknesses to Pokemon created to counter-lead it; Iron Treads is a noticeable example and when facing Zacian-C the lead matchup becomes much more difficult.

[SET]

Sticky Web (Ribombee) @ Focus Sash
Ability: Shield Dust
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Sticky Web
- Moonblast
- Stun Spore / Psychic Noise
- Pounce / Tailwind

[SET COMMENTS]

Sticky Web is devastating for offensive teams to deal with, and Ribombee is the best user of the move. Already brought up in overview and it's more fluff in comments Sticky Web allows to keep threats like Zacian-C, Koraidon, non-Heavy-Duty Boots Miraidon, and most Arceus formes in check and permitting for the use of non-Speed boosting natures on common teammates in hyper offense like Miraidon. Moonblast targets Pokemon that could try to antilead Ribombee, like Taunt Miraidon; if Miraidon decides to Taunt Ribombee to prevent Sticky Web from going up, it will get 2HKOed by Moonblast. Stun Spore is Ribombee's best option against foes such as Ho-Oh and Arceus formes, as those don't mind Moonblast too much and, in the case of EKiller Arceus, while running Heavy-Duty Boots to negate Sticky Web maybe an ESL moment on my part but this last bit doesn't make sense to me?. Instead, Psychic Noise could be used to 2HKO Glimmora while negating Ho-Oh's Regenerator once. Pounce helps Ribombee beat Miraidon one-on-one had it clicked Taunt instead of breaking Ribombee's Focus Sash with Electro Drift, while also helping Ribombee to eventually use Sticky Web in the face of Deoxys-S. Tailwind can be used instead for a more immediate option to allow for teammates like Necrozma-DM to be faster than Heavy-Duty Boots foes like Miraidon or Flying-types like offensive Ho-Oh. I think tailwind is much better and has seen more usage, especially so during ULT so it should be first slash, especially with Deo-S falling out of favor more and more

Tera Steel allows Ribombee to be immune to Poison, which helps against Glimmora by not letting it use Mortal Spin to clear Sticky Web.

Ribombee should be only used in hyper offense teams. Good teammates include Koraidon, Miraidon, Kingambit, Necrozma-DM, Zacian-C, Arceus formes, and other threats like Kyurem-B, Chien-Pao, and Calyrex-I hard to recommend the TR Pokemon to be used next to a Sticky Web setter, even if it makes sense on higher levels of play. Grimmsnarl can be another good teammate due to its ability to further support Ribombee's team with dual screens, allowing for an even easier time setting up.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
====

Choice Scarf can be run for Ribombee to outspeed Taunt Miraidon and use Sticky Web before Miraidon can attack. This makes Ribombee consistently able to get Sticky Web almost in every game. Its only downside, however, comes from making Ribombee now able to get OHKOed by any attack thrown at it. Bring up losing to Flare Blitz from Choice Scarf Koraidon here

Quiver Dance is an option for Ribombee to break Zacian-C's Substitute with Moonblast in one turn. However, Substitute Zacian-C is very rare and thus not worth preparing for generally, and Ribombee much rather prefers using other moves like Stun Spore.

Tera Ghost mention here and why it's sub-optimal
Checks and Counters
====

**Taunt**: Taunt Miraidon prevents Ribombee from using Sticky Web, thus nullifying its threat. However, it gets 2HKOed by Moonblast, making the interaction a tricky mindgame. Other Pokemon like Deoxys-S can annoy Ribombee with attacks like Psycho Boost or Extreme Speed after Taunting it while having free Stealth Rock or Spikes. Grimmsnarl mention goes here

**Entry Hazard Removal**: Glimmora can keep Sticky Web off the field with Mortal Spin while breaking Ribombee's Focus Sash and potentially forcing a Tera Steel to ensure it can't remove the Sticky Web. Corviknight can comfortably setup on Ribombee with Iron Defense while cleaning Sticky Web away with Defog, making it a potential threat to Ribombee's team afterwards if said team has no special attackers.

**Trick Room Users**: While not directly threatening Ribombee itself, foes like Necrozma-DM and Calyrex-I can benefit from Sticky Web by making potential Speed ties go their way in TR.

**Hatterene**: Bounce


maybe mention Orthworm here which can make a slow Shed Tail pass to a teammate like DD Miraidon and make your life hell. another option is Toxic Spikes setters because things like Clodsire and Toxapex can be a huge nuisance, especially so if you're not running Psychic Noise.


[SET CREDITS]
Written by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/corvere.306317/
Quality checked by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/lasen.273339/
[QC checker 2's profile link]
Grammar checked by:
[GP checker's profile link]

1/2
View attachment 636452
implemented
 
Psychic Noise doesnt stop Ho-oh's Regenerator so use a different example there if you're keeping Psychic Noise on. Maybe an Arceus as an example.

Emphasise the teammates that appreciate Sticky Web support as a core factor rather than just normal HO mons. For example, I would not put Kingambit above Dusk Mane given how few mons it outspeeds even with Webs support, and I would prob focus more on the Kyurem-B example or Rayquaza as good synergistic teammates for it given the proportional benefit they have from Webs (esp being faster than non-boots Arcs).

In Checks and Counters you say:
**Trick Room Users**: Calyrex-I and Trick Room Necrozma-DM benefit from Ribombee's Sticky Web.

This isnt clear enough that Trick Room turns the Strength of Sticky Webs into a weakness, and almost reads to me like you're saying that they're good teammates for a Webs Ribombee team.

I would also throw a mention of Boots into the Checks and Counters section, specifically for pokemon like Miraidon or Chien Pao where they ignore the detriment of Sticky Webs when they are up.

EDIT: Also dont mention Ribombee being an anti-lead, I dont think thats true in this meta anymore.

QC 2/2 after these are cleared up.
 
Last edited:
add
remove
comments


[OVERVIEW]

Ribombee is the only viable Sticky Web user in Ubers. Its niche in the format is that of It has a niche as a lead for hyper offense teams that is capable of preventing Koraidon from clicking using Scale Shot while potentially paralyzing a threat with Stun Spore. It is just fast enough to outrun Pokemon that commonly run Taunt in their moveset, like Arceus, while discouraging Koraidon and Miraidon from staying in on it thanks to its STAB Moonblast. Unfortunately for Ribombee, it can be played around by select antileads Pokemon like Iron Treads and others other leads like Glimmora, both of which can prevent Sticky Web from going up pretty consistently. The presence of Zacian-C in the tier can also make Ribombee's job harder, as its user will have to decide to either use Sticky Web or risk Stun Spore missing.

[SET]

Sticky Web (Ribombee) @ Focus Sash
Ability: Shield Dust
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Sticky Web
- Moonblast
- Stun Spore / Psychic Noise
- Tailwind / Pounce

[SET COMMENTS]

Sticky Web allows to keep keeps threats like Zacian-C, Koraidon, non-Heavy-Duty Boots Miraidon, and most Arceus formes in check and permitting allows for the use of non-Speed boosting natures on common hyper offense teammates in hyper offense like Miraidon. Moonblast targets Pokemon that could try to antilead Ribombee, like Taunt Miraidon; if Miraidon decides to Taunt Ribombee to prevent Sticky Web from going up, it will get 2HKOed by Moonblast. Stun Spore is Ribombee's best option against foes such as Ho-Oh and Arceus formes, as those they don't mind Moonblast too much and run Heavy-Duty Boots to negate Sticky Web. Instead Alternatively, Psychic Noise could can be used to 2HKO Glimmora while negating Recover from Pokemon like Arceus, and Clodsire, and even as well as Roost from Corviknight. Tailwind is a more immediate option that allows for teammates like Necrozma-DM to be faster than Heavy-Duty Boots foes like Miraidon, and Zacian-C, as well as or Flying-types like offensive Ho-Oh. Pounce can be used instead as an alternative, as it helps Ribombee beat Miraidon one-on-one had it clicked if it uses Taunt instead of breaking Ribombee's Focus Sash with Electro Drift, (remove comma) while also helping Ribombee to eventually use Sticky Web in the face of against Deoxys-S. However, Deoxys-S is not common enough to justify its use.

Tera Steel gives Ribombee a Poison immunity, allows Ribombee to be immune to Poison, which helps against Glimmora by not letting it use Mortal Spin to clear Sticky Web.

Ribombee should be only used in on hyper offense teams. Good teammates include Koraidon, Miraidon, Necrozma-DM, Zacian-C, Arceus formes, and other threats like Kyurem-B, Chien-Pao, and Kingambit. Kyurem-B and and Rayquaza especially like Sticky Web because they can now it lets them outspeed Arceus formes. Grimmsnarl can be another good teammate due to its ability to further support Ribombee's team with dual screens, allowing for an even easier time setting up.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
====

Choice Scarf can be run for on Ribombee to outspeed Taunt Miraidon and use Sticky Web before Miraidon can attack. This makes Ribombee consistently able to get Sticky Web up in almost in every game. Its only downside, however, comes from making is that Ribombee then gets now able to get OHKOed by any attack thrown at it, mainly Choice Scarf Koraidon's Flare Blitz.

Quiver Dance is an option for Ribombee to break Zacian-C's Substitute with Moonblast in one turn. However, Substitute Zacian-C is very rare and thus not worth preparing for generally, and Ribombee much rather prefers using other moves like Stun Spore.

Tera Ghost can be ran run instead of Tera Steel to prevent Arceus's Extreme Speed from revenge killing Ribombee; this gives the Ribombee user more turns to damage Arceus with Moonblast or cripple it with Stun Spore. However, Ribombee much rather prefers being immune to Glimmora's Mortal Spin, (add comma) as Arceus can be dealt with very easily.

Checks and Counters
====

**Taunt**: Taunt Miraidon prevents Ribombee from using Sticky Web, thus nullifying its threat. However, it gets 2HKOed by Moonblast, making the interaction a tricky mindgame. Other Pokemon like Deoxys-S can annoy Ribombee with attacks like Psycho Boost or Extreme Speed after Taunting it while having setting free Stealth Rock or Spikes. While weak to Moonblast, Glimmora Grimmsnarl can prevent Ribombee's Sticky Web with its Prankster Taunt. It also can use Light Screen and Parting Shot to turn Ribombee into setup fodder for one of its teammates.

**Entry Hazard Removal**: Glimmora can keep Sticky Web off the field with Mortal Spin while breaking Ribombee's Focus Sash and potentially forcing a it to use Tera Steel to ensure that Mortal Spin fails. it can't remove the Sticky Web. Corviknight can comfortably setup set up on Ribombee with Iron Defense while cleaning clearing Sticky Web away with Defog, making it a potential threat to Ribombee's team afterwards if said team has no special attackers.

**Trick Room Users**: Trick Room can turn the tables on Ribombee and its Sticky Web, as the -1 decrease in Speed by one stage Speed can allow for the foe's Trick Room Necrozma-DM to be faster than its Ribombee's team. Other Trick Room users like Calyrex-I also work similarly to Necrozma-DM.

**Heavy-Duty Boots**: Pokemon like Miraidon commonly run Heavy-Duty Boots, which renders Sticky Web useless. Other common users of Heavy-Duty Boots can include Kyogre, Chien-Pao, Arceus, and Koraidon.

**Hatterene**: Hatterene's Magic Bounce completely nullifies Ribombee's Sticky Web attempts.

**Orthworm**: Orthworm can use Shed Tail to bring a teammate like Zacian-C or Agility Miraidon into the field play to break through Ribombee's team with extreme ease.

[SET CREDITS]
Written by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/corvere.306317/
Quality checked by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/lasen.273339/
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/aberforth.249382/
Grammar checked by:
[GP checker's profile link]

GP Team done
 
Last edited:
Back
Top