Ubers CM Ogre (overview, set, oo, and c&c)

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[OVERVIEW]
Kyogre is one of the most threatening, if not the most threatening, Pokemon in Ubers. Between its great Special Attack, Drizzle, and good coverage in Ice Beam and Thunder, nothing is truly safe switching into it. Its pure Water typing, good natural bulk, and Drizzle also give it valuable defensive utility against premier physical attackers like Koraidon, Zacian-C, and Arceus-Ground, as well as special attackers like Lunala, Arceus-Fairy, and Arceus-Flying. This defensive utility allows Kyogre to consistently find opportunities to threaten bulky teams despite its below-average Speed. Kyogre is also one of the best Choice item users in the tier thanks to its Speed being good enough to threaten every defensive Pokemon in the tier, and its Water Spout is able to rip through even Water-resistant Pokemon like Eternatus and Giratina-O. However, many teams are able to stack Water-resistant Pokemon like Koraidon, Eternatus, Kyogre, and Kyurem-B, which can limit its effectiveness to a degree. Kyogre has below-average Speed and no recovery, so it is prone to being overwhelmed quickly. Kyogre's biggest drawback, though, is being constantly at odds with Koraidon, the best Pokemon in the tier. While Koraidon does not appreciate Kyogre switching into it, as the rain cuts Koraidon's power, Koraidon's Water resistance and ability to set up sun allows it to pivot into Kyogre's Water-type STAB moves, cutting its power and effectiveness greatly. Kyogre also cannot check Koraidon on its own without Terastallization, as it fears +2 Scale Shot or Wild Charge.

[SET]
Calm Mind (Kyogre) @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Drizzle
Tera Type: Poison / Fairy
EVs: 248 HP / 164 Def / 80 SpA / 16 Spe
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Calm Mind
- Origin Pulse
- Ice Beam
- Thunder / Thunder Wave

[SET COMMENTS]
Kyogre can leverage Calm Mind in conjunction with its naturally great power to become a fierce sweeper and wallbreaker. Origin Pulse is chosen for its higher power, which allows Kyogre to have a chance to OHKO Ho-Oh and always OHKOes Zacian-C at +1. Ice Beam is Kyogre's best weapon against Koraidon, Eternatus, and Giratina-O. Thunder is useful to hit Kyogre and Arceus-Water and is generally hard to switch into, as Kyogre's checks hate getting paralyzed. Thunder Wave is useful against faster sweepers like Koraidon, Zacian-C, Arceus formes, and Eternatus. Kyogre is a great user of Thunder Wave, as it naturally threatens Ting-Lu and Arceus-Ground, which are immune to Thunder Wave, and is ruinous to most of Kyogre's checks. The HP and Defense EVs and a Bold Nature allow Kyogre to survive +2 Low Kick from non-Life Orb Koraidon in rain and +1 Tera Ground Earthquake from Arceus-Ground, while the Speed EVs allow Kyogre to outrun paralyzed Deoxys-A and Zacian-C. Tera Poison gives Kyogre an immunity to Toxic from Eternatus, letting Kyogre set up on it. Tera Poison also gives Kyogre resistances to Fairy and Fighting, which are useful against Zacian-C, Arceus-Fairy, and Choice Scarf Koraidon. Tera Fairy provides both a Fighting resistance and a Dragon immunity, which, in conjunction with Drizzle, allow Kyogre to become a solid check to Swords Dance Koraidon, though it must be careful against Iron Head variants. Tera Fairy also provides a Dark resistance, which can be used to handle Kingambit late-game in a pinch.

Kyogre is best used on bulky offense teams as a way to play around several problematic Pokemon like Koraidon, Zacian-C, and Ho-Oh while being threatening to opposing bulky cores. Because Koraidon is a big limiting factor for Kyogre, teammates that can pressure Koraidon in sun are imperative. Arceus-Fairy and Kyogre together make for a generally safe core against Koraidon, and Arceus-Fairy is both a good user of Stealth Rock and Thunder Wave and a strong Calm Mind sweeper that appreciates Kyogre pressuring Ho-Oh, Zacian-C, and Eternatus. Landorus-T can switch into both Koraidon and Zacian-C thanks to Intimidate, set up Stealth Rock to free up Arceus-Fairy to run Calm Mind, and provide Kyogre free switches with its slow U-turn. Ho-Oh is a great partner to help Kyogre not get overwhelmed by several attackers, taking on special sweepers like Arceus-Fairy, Arceus-Ghost, and Lunala as well as physical attackers like Koraidon, Zacian-C, and Extreme Killer Arceus.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
====

Tera Ghost can be used on Calm Mind Kyogre to block Extreme Speed from Extreme Killer Arceus in a pinch and has the added bonus of blocking Koraidon's Fighting-type STAB moves and Blissey's Seismic Toss. However, these upsides are generally not worth giving up Tera Poison or Tera Fairy, especially because partner Choice Scarf Koraidon can use Tera Ghost much more effectively. Thunder Wave with three attacks can be used to paralyze faster Pokemon without being walled by Kyogre and Arceus-Water, but without Calm Mind, Kyogre's ability to reliably get past Pokemon like Eternatus, Calm Mind Arceus-Fairy, and Stored Power Necrozma-DM is compromised.

Checks and Counters
====

**Dragon-types**: Koraidon both resists Kyogre's STAB movesand Thunder and overrides rain with sun, making Kyogre significantly less threatening and threatening it with big damage. Koraidon can even U-turn as Kyogre switches out. Specially defensive Eternatus and Giratina-O are bulky enough to survive two unboosted Ice Beams and can threaten Kyogre trying to set up with Dragon Tail and status. Kyurem-B resists Water and Electric while not being weak to Ice Beam, threatens Kyogre with Fusion Bolt, and can set up Dragon Dances on non-Thunder Wave Kyogre. However, all of these Pokemon fear Ice Beam, Thunder Wave, or Choice Specs-boosted attacks. Koraidon's power is also cut by Kyogre's rain, often forcing it to switch out.

**Water-types**: Arceus-Water and Kyogre resist Origin Pulse and Ice Beam, allowing them to pivot into Koraidon or Eternatus much more safely. However, both must watch for Thunder and attacks from Choice Specs Kyogre.

**Entry Hazards**: Choice item Kyogre needs to remain at high health to be threatening with Water Spout, so they can be limited with entry hazards. However, teams with Choice item Kyogre have ways to prevent or clear hazards, like Hatterene and Giratina-O.

**Blissey**: Blissey shrugs off even boosted Origin Pulses from Kyogre, has reliable recovery, matches Kyogre's boosts with its own Calm Mind, and threatens Kyogre with Seismic Toss. However, even Blissey cannot withstand Tera Water or Choice Specs Water Spout. Furthermore, limited Soft-Boiled PP means if Kyogre forces Blissey to heal too much, it can be overwhelmed by other Calm Mind users like Arceus-Fairy and Lunala.

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[OVERVIEW]
Kyogre is one of, if not the most threatening Pokemon in Ubers. Between its great Special Attack, Drizzle, and good coverage in Ice Beam and Thunder, nothing is truly safe switching into it. Its pure-Water typing, good natural bulk, and Drizzle also gives it valuable defensive utility against premier physical attackers like Koraidon, Zacian-C, and Arceus-Ground, as well as special attackers like Lunala, Arceus-Fairy, and Arceus-Flying. This defensive utility allows Kyogre to consistently find opportunities to threaten bulky teams despite its below-average Speed. Kyogre is also one of the best Choice item users in the tier thanks to its Speed being good enough to threaten every defensive Pokemon in the tier, and its Water Spout being able to rip through even Water-resistant Pokemon like Eternatus and Giratina-O. However, Kyogre is reliant on its powerful Water STAB to be threatening. Many teams are able to stack Water-resistant Pokemon like Koraidon, Eternatus, Kyogre, and Kyurem-B, which can limit its effectiveness to a degree. Kyogre has below-average Speed and no recovery, so it is prone to being overwhelmed quickly. However, Kyogre's biggest drawback is being constantly at odds with Koraidon, the best Pokemon in the tier. Koraidon not only resists Kyogre's Water STAB, its Orichalcum Pulse sets up sun, cutting Kyogre's power and effectiveness greatly. Nevertheless, Kyogre is an excellent Pokemon that every team must have a plan against. this is true yes, but ig korai and kyogre kinda act as checks to each other with weather, so maybe rephrasing that would help

[SET]
Calm Mind (Kyogre) @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Drizzle
Tera Type: Poison / Fairy
EVs: 248 HP / 164 Def / 80 SpA / 16 Spe
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Calm Mind
- Origin Pulse
- Ice Beam
- Thunder / Thunder Wave


[SET COMMENTS]
Kyogre can leverage Calm Mind in conjunction with its naturally great power to become a fierce sweeper and wallbreaker. Origin Pulse is chosen for its higher power, which allows Kyogre to have a chance to OHKO Ho-Oh and always OHKOs Zacian-C at +1. Ice Beam is Kyogre's best weapon against Koraidon, Eternatus, and Giratina-O. Thunder is useful to hit Kyogre and Arceus-Water, and the paralysis chance is useful against dangerous setup sweepers like Calm Mind Arceus-Fairy. Thunder Wave is useful against faster sweepers like Koraidon, Zacian-C, Calm Mind Arceus-Fairy, and Eternatus. Kyogre is a great user of Thunder Wave as it naturally threatens Ting-Lu and Arceus-Ground, which are immune to Thunder Wave, and means Kyogre is still threatening even when rain is not up. The HP and Defense EVs and a Bold Nature allows Kyogre to survive +2 Low Kick from non-Life Orb Koraidon in rain and +1 Tera Ground Earthquake from Arceus-Ground, while the Speed EVs allow Kyogre to outrun paralyzed Deoxys-A and Zacian-C. Tera Poison gives Kyogre an immunity to Toxic from Eternatus, letting Kyogre set up on it. Tera Poison also gives Kyogre resistances to Fairy and Fighting, which is useful against Zacian-C, Arceus-Fairy, and Choice Scarf Koraidon. Tera Fairy provides both a Fighting resistance and a Dragon immunity, which, in conjunction with Drizzle, allows Kyogre to become a solid check to Swords Dance Koraidon, though it must be careful against Iron Head variants. Tera Fairy also provides a Dark resistance, which can be used to handle Kingambit late-game in a pinch.

Kyogre is best used on bulky offense teams as a way to play around several problematic Pokemon like Koraidon, Zacian-C, and Ho-Oh, while being threatening to opposing bulky cores. Because Koraidon is a big limiting factor for Kyogre, teammates that can pressure Koraidon in sun are imperative. Arceus-Fairy and Kyogre together make for a gerenally safe two-Pokemon core against Koraidon, and Arceus-Fairy is both a good user of Stealth Rock and Thunder Wave, and a strong Calm Mind sweeper that appreciates Kyogre pressuring Ho-Oh, Zacian-C, and Eternatus. Landorus-T can switch into both Koraidon and Zacian-C thanks to Intimidate, set up Stealth Rock to free up Arceus-Fairy to run Calm Mind, and provide Kyogre free switches with its slow U-turn. Ho-Oh is a great partner to help Kyogre not get overwhelm by several attackers, taking on special sweepers like Arceus-Fairy, Arceus-Ghost, and Lunala, as well as physical attackers like Koraidon, Zacian-C, and Extreme Killer Arceus.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
====

Tera Ghost can be used on Calm Mind Kyogre to block Extreme Speed from Extreme Killer Arceus in a pinch and has the added bonus of blocking Koraidon's Fighting STAB and Blissey's Seismic Toss. However, these upsides are generally not worth giving up Tera Poison or Tera Fairy, especially because partner Choice Scarf Koraidon can use Tera Ghost much more effectively. i'd liike a mention of 3a + twave over calm mind as an option, as not every team can fit cm, and some teams want thunder + twave for temporary ogre pivot as well.

Checks and Counters
====

**Dragon-types**: Koraidon both resists Kyogre's STAB and Thunder and overrides rain with sun, making Kyogre significantly less threatening and threatening it with big damage. Koraidon can even U-turn as Kyogre switches out. Specially defensive Eternatus and Giratina-O are bulky enough to survive two unboosted Ice Beams, and can threaten Kyogre trying to set up with Dragon Tail and status. Kyurem-B resists Water and Electric while not being weak to Ice Beam, threatens Kyogre with Fusion Bolt, and can set up Dragon Dances on non-Thunder Wave Kyogre. However, all of these Pokemon fear Ice Beam, Thunder Wave, or Choice Specs. Koraidon's power is also cut by Kyogre's rain, often forcing it to switch out.

**Water-types**: Arceus-Water and Kyogre resist Origin Pulse and Ice Beam, allowing them to pivot into Koraidon or Eternatus much more safely. However, both must watch for Thunder and Choice Specs.

**Entry Hazards**: Choice item Kyogre needs to remain at high health to be threatening with Water Spout, so they can be limited with entry hazards. However, teams with Choice item Kyogre have ways to prevent or clear hazards, like Hatterene and Giratina-O.

**Blissey**: Blissey can shrug off even boosted Origin Pulses from Kyogre, has reliable recovery, and can match Kyogre's boosts with its own Calm Mind and threaten Kyogre with Seismic Toss. However, even Blissey cannot withstand Tera Water or Choice Specs Water Spout. Furthermore, limited Softboiled PP means if Kyogre forces Blissey to heal too much, it can be overwhelmed by other Calm Mind users like Arceus-Fairy and Lunala.

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[OVERVIEW]
Kyogre is one of, if not the most threatening Pokemon in Ubers. Between its great Special Attack, Drizzle, and good coverage in Ice Beam and Thunder, nothing is truly safe switching into it. Its pure-Water typing, good natural bulk, and Drizzle also gives it valuable defensive utility against premier physical attackers like Koraidon, Zacian-C, and Arceus-Ground, as well as special attackers like Lunala, Arceus-Fairy, and Arceus-Flying. This defensive utility allows Kyogre to consistently find opportunities to threaten bulky teams despite its below-average Speed. Kyogre is also one of the best Choice item users in the tier thanks to its Speed being good enough to threaten every defensive Pokemon in the tier, and its Water Spout being able to rip through even Water-resistant Pokemon like Eternatus and Giratina-O. However, Kyogre is reliant on its powerful Water STAB to be threatening. you can keep the next line but I dont agree with this line in particular - yes it needs it water stab but before koraidon is low / chipped youre always just gonna ice beam or twave since both are relatively free clicks Many teams are able to stack Water-resistant Pokemon like Koraidon, Eternatus, Kyogre, and Kyurem-B, which can limit its effectiveness to a degree. Kyogre has below-average Speed and no recovery, so it is prone to being overwhelmed quickly. However, Kyogre's biggest drawback is being constantly at odds with Koraidon, the best Pokemon in the tier. While Koraidon does not appreciate Kyogre switching into it as the rain cuts Koraidon's power, Koraidon's Water resistance and ability to set up sun allows it to pivot into Kyogre's Water STAB, cutting its power and effectiveness greatly. do mention that kyogre is often forced to burn tera vs koraidon since it fears +2 scale shot or wild charge, so it cant check koraidon on its own. Nevertheless, Kyogre is an excellent Pokemon that every team must have a plan against.

[SET]
Calm Mind (Kyogre) @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Drizzle
Tera Type: Poison / Fairy
EVs: 248 HP / 164 Def / 80 SpA / 16 Spe
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Calm Mind
- Origin Pulse
- Ice Beam
- Thunder / Thunder Wave

[SET COMMENTS]
Kyogre can leverage Calm Mind in conjunction with its naturally great power to become a fierce sweeper and wallbreaker. Origin Pulse is chosen for its higher power, which allows Kyogre to have a chance to OHKO Ho-Oh and always OHKOs Zacian-C at +1. Ice Beam is Kyogre's best weapon against Koraidon, Eternatus, and Giratina-O. Thunder is useful to hit opposing Kyogre and Arceus-Water, and the paralysis chance is useful against dangerous setup sweepers like Calm Mind Arceus-Fairy. fishing for para vs cm fariy arc is not so viable since you only get one chance to para, should instead just mention that its tough to switch into because most things hate a para Thunder Wave is useful against faster sweepers like Koraidon, Zacian-C, Calm Mind Arceus formes -Fairy, and Eternatus. Kyogre is a great user of Thunder Wave as it naturally threatens Ting-Lu and Arceus-Ground, which are immune to Thunder Wave, and most of its checks hate getting paralyzed. means Kyogre is still threatening even when rain is not up. The HP and Defense EVs and a Bold Nature allows Kyogre to survive +2 Low Kick from non-Life Orb Koraidon in rain and +1 Tera Ground Earthquake from Arceus-Ground, while the Speed EVs allow Kyogre to outrun paralyzed Deoxys-A and Zacian-C. Tera Poison gives Kyogre an immunity to Toxic from Eternatus, letting Kyogre set up on it. Tera Poison also gives Kyogre resistances to Fairy and Fighting, which is useful against Zacian-C, Arceus-Fairy, and Choice Scarf Koraidon. Tera Fairy provides both a Fighting resistance and a Dragon immunity, which, in conjunction with Drizzle, allows Kyogre to become a solid check to Swords Dance Koraidon, though it must be careful against Iron Head variants. Tera Fairy also provides a Dark resistance, which can be used to handle Kingambit late-game in a pinch.

Kyogre is best used on bulky offense teams as a way to play around several problematic Pokemon like Koraidon, Zacian-C, and Ho-Oh, while being threatening to opposing bulky cores. Because Koraidon is a big limiting factor for Kyogre, teammates that can pressure Koraidon in sun are imperative. Arceus-Fairy and Kyogre together make for a gerenally safe two-Pokemon core against Koraidon, and Arceus-Fairy is both a good user of Stealth Rock and Thunder Wave, and a strong Calm Mind sweeper that appreciates Kyogre pressuring Ho-Oh, Zacian-C, and Eternatus. Landorus-T can switch into both Koraidon and Zacian-C thanks to Intimidate, set up Stealth Rock to free up Arceus-Fairy to run Calm Mind, and provide Kyogre free switches with its slow U-turn. Ho-Oh is a great partner to help Kyogre not get overwhelm by several attackers, taking on special sweepers like Arceus-Fairy, Arceus-Ghost, and Lunala, as well as physical attackers like Koraidon, Zacian-C, and Extreme Killer Arceus. Mention Hatterene - she can effectively chip down koraidon and has hwish to heal kyogre back up after it trades itself with kora or etern. Mention Etern - he likes kyogre being able to chip down stuff and spreading paras.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
====

Tera Ghost can be used on Calm Mind Kyogre to block Extreme Speed from Extreme Killer Arceus in a pinch and has the added bonus of blocking Koraidon's Fighting STAB and Blissey's Seismic Toss. However, these upsides are generally not worth giving up Tera Poison or Tera Fairy, especially because partner Choice Scarf Koraidon can use Tera Ghost much more effectively. Thunder Wave with 3 attacks can be used to paralyze faster Pokemon without being walled by Kyogre and Arceus-Water, but without Calm Mind, Kyogre's ability to reliably get past Pokemon like Eternatus, Calm Mind Arceus-Fairy, and Stored Power Necrozma-DM is compromised. this will probably be a different set. I tagged QC members so we can discuss it. you may add this back if we decide against having a different analysis for the set

Checks and Counters
====

**Dragon-types**: Koraidon both resists Kyogre's STAB and Thunder and overrides rain with sun, making Kyogre significantly less threatening and threatening it with big damage. Koraidon can even U-turn as Kyogre switches out. Specially defensive Eternatus and Giratina-O are bulky enough to survive two unboosted Ice Beams, and can threaten Kyogre trying to set up with Dragon Tail and status. Kyurem-B resists Water and Electric while not being weak to Ice Beam, threatens Kyogre with Fusion Bolt, and can set up Dragon Dances on non-Thunder Wave Kyogre. However, all of these Pokemon fear Ice Beam, Thunder Wave, or Choice Specs. Koraidon's power is also cut by Kyogre's rain, often forcing it to switch out.

**Water-types**: Arceus-Water and Kyogre resist Origin Pulse and Ice Beam, allowing them to pivot into Koraidon or Eternatus much more safely. However, both must watch for Thunder and Choice Specs.

**Entry Hazards**: Choice item Kyogre needs to remain at high health to be threatening with Water Spout, so they can be limited with entry hazards. However, teams with Choice item Kyogre have ways to prevent or clear hazards, like Hatterene and Giratina-O.

**Blissey**: Blissey can shrug off even boosted Origin Pulses from Kyogre, has reliable recovery, and can match Kyogre's boosts with its own Calm Mind and threaten Kyogre with Seismic Toss. However, even Blissey cannot withstand Tera Water or Choice Specs Water Spout. Furthermore, limited Softboiled PP means if Kyogre forces Blissey to heal too much, it can be overwhelmed by other Calm Mind users like Arceus-Fairy and Lunala.

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[OVERVIEW]
Kyogre is one of the most threatening, if not the most threatening, (AC) Pokemon in Ubers. Between its great Special Attack, Drizzle, and good coverage in Ice Beam and Thunder, nothing is truly safe switching into it. Its pure-Water pure Water typing, good natural bulk, and Drizzle also gives give it valuable defensive utility against premier physical attackers like Koraidon, Zacian-C, and Arceus-Ground, as well as special attackers like Lunala, Arceus-Fairy, and Arceus-Flying. This defensive utility allows Kyogre to consistently find opportunities to threaten bulky teams despite its below-average Speed. Kyogre is also one of the best Choice item users in the tier thanks to its Speed being good enough to threaten every defensive Pokemon in the tier, and its Water Spout being is able to rip through even Water-resistant Pokemon like Eternatus and Giratina-O. However, many teams are able to stack Water-resistant Pokemon like Koraidon, Eternatus, Kyogre, and Kyurem-B, which can limit its effectiveness to a degree. Kyogre has below-average Speed and no recovery, so it is prone to being overwhelmed quickly. Kyogre's biggest drawback, though, is being constantly at odds with Koraidon, the best Pokemon in the tier. While Koraidon does not appreciate Kyogre switching into it, (AC) as the rain cuts Koraidon's power, Koraidon's Water resistance and ability to set up sun allows it to pivot into Kyogre's Water Water-type STAB moves, cutting its power and effectiveness greatly, (RC) though it. (AP) Kyogre also cannot check Koraidon on its own without Terastallization, (AC) as it fears +2 Scale Shot or Wild Charge. Nevertheless, Kyogre is an excellent Pokemon that every team must have a plan against. (RP)

[SET]
Calm Mind (Kyogre) @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Drizzle
Tera Type: Poison / Fairy
EVs: 248 HP / 164 Def / 80 SpA / 16 Spe
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Calm Mind
- Origin Pulse
- Ice Beam
- Thunder / Thunder Wave

[SET COMMENTS]
Kyogre can leverage Calm Mind in conjunction with its naturally great power to become a fierce sweeper and wallbreaker. Origin Pulse is chosen for its higher power, which allows Kyogre to have a chance to OHKO Ho-Oh and always OHKOs OHKOes Zacian-C at +1. Ice Beam is Kyogre's best weapon against Koraidon, Eternatus, and Giratina-O. Thunder is useful to hit Kyogre and Arceus-Water, (RC) and is generally hard to switch into, (AC) as Kyogre's checks hate getting paralyzed. Thunder Wave is useful against faster sweepers like Koraidon, Zacian-C, Arceus formes, and Eternatus. Kyogre is a great user of Thunder Wave, (AC) as it naturally threatens Ting-Lu and Arceus-Ground, which are immune to Thunder Wave, and is ruinous to most of Kyogre's checks. The HP and Defense EVs and a Bold Nature allows allow Kyogre to survive +2 Low Kick from non-Life Orb Koraidon in rain and +1 Tera Ground Earthquake from Arceus-Ground, while the Speed EVs allow Kyogre to outrun paralyzed Deoxys-A and Zacian-C. Tera Poison gives Kyogre an immunity to Toxic from Eternatus, letting Kyogre set up on it. Tera Poison also gives Kyogre resistances to Fairy and Fighting, which is are useful against Zacian-C, Arceus-Fairy, and Choice Scarf Koraidon. Tera Fairy provides both a Fighting resistance and a Dragon immunity, which, in conjunction with Drizzle, allows allow Kyogre to become a solid check to Swords Dance Koraidon, though it must be careful against Iron Head variants. Tera Fairy also provides a Dark resistance, which can be used to handle Kingambit late-game in a pinch.

Kyogre is best used on bulky offense teams as a way to play around several problematic Pokemon like Koraidon, Zacian-C, and Ho-Oh, (RC) while being threatening to opposing bulky cores. Because Koraidon is a big limiting factor for Kyogre, teammates that can pressure Koraidon in sun are imperative. Arceus-Fairy and Kyogre together make for a gerenally generally safe two-Pokemon core against Koraidon, and Arceus-Fairy is both a good user of Stealth Rock and Thunder Wave, (RC) and a strong Calm Mind sweeper that appreciates Kyogre pressuring Ho-Oh, Zacian-C, and Eternatus. Landorus-T can switch into both Koraidon and Zacian-C thanks to Intimidate, set up Stealth Rock to free up Arceus-Fairy to run Calm Mind, and provide Kyogre free switches with its slow U-turn. Ho-Oh is a great partner to help Kyogre not get overwhelm overwhelmed by several attackers, taking on special sweepers like Arceus-Fairy, Arceus-Ghost, and Lunala, (RC) as well as physical attackers like Koraidon, Zacian-C, and Extreme Killer Arceus.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
====

Tera Ghost can be used on Calm Mind Kyogre to block Extreme Speed from Extreme Killer Arceus in a pinch and has the added bonus of blocking Koraidon's Fighting Fighting-type STAB moves and Blissey's Seismic Toss. However, these upsides are generally not worth giving up Tera Poison or Tera Fairy, especially because partner Choice Scarf Koraidon can use Tera Ghost much more effectively. Thunder Wave with 3 three attacks can be used to paralyze faster Pokemon without being walled by Kyogre and Arceus-Water, but without Calm Mind, Kyogre's ability to reliably get past Pokemon like Eternatus, Calm Mind Arceus-Fairy, and Stored Power Necrozma-DM is compromised.

Checks and Counters
====

**Dragon-types**: Koraidon both resists Kyogre's STAB moves and Thunder and overrides rain with sun, making Kyogre significantly less threatening and threatening it with big damage. Koraidon can even U-turn as Kyogre switches out. Specially defensive Eternatus and Giratina-O are bulky enough to survive two unboosted Ice Beams, (RC) and can threaten Kyogre trying to set up with Dragon Tail and status. Kyurem-B resists Water and Electric while not being weak to Ice Beam, threatens Kyogre with Fusion Bolt, and can set up Dragon Dances on non-Thunder Wave Kyogre. However, all of these Pokemon fear Ice Beam, Thunder Wave, or Choice Specs Specs-boosted attacks. Koraidon's power is also cut by Kyogre's rain, often forcing it to switch out.

**Water-types**: Arceus-Water and Kyogre resist Origin Pulse and Ice Beam, allowing them to pivot into Koraidon or Eternatus much more safely. However, both must watch for Thunder and attacks from the Choice Specs variant.

**Entry Hazards**: Choice item Kyogre needs to remain at high health to be threatening with Water Spout, so they can be limited with entry hazards. However, teams with Choice item Kyogre have ways to prevent or clear hazards, like Hatterene and Giratina-O.

**Blissey**: Blissey can shrug shrugs off even boosted Origin Pulses from Kyogre, has reliable recovery, and can match matches Kyogre's boosts with its own Calm Mind, (AC) and threaten threatens Kyogre with Seismic Toss. However, even Blissey cannot withstand Tera Water or Choice Specs Water Spout. Furthermore, limited Softboiled Soft-Boiled PP means if Kyogre forces Blissey to heal too much, it can be overwhelmed by other Calm Mind users like Arceus-Fairy and Lunala.

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