Power of Kalos! (Napoleon's Army) XY OU team

One day, I got bored of stereotypical mainstream OU teams. That was like 3 days after I started playing on Pokemon Showdown. So, I looked at Aegislash and Greninja and thought "OMG KALOS! CHALLENGE ACCEPTED BITCHES!" So I just pulled the following team out of my ass and assembled it and all it's moves, EVs, natures, etc. in under 7 minutes. I have not edited the team AT ALL since then. This team has gone 4-1 on OU, so I thought ah what the heck, make an RMT on it and see what people think. I thought this team would crash and burn. Instead, it sprang up as a team destined for greatness, and took down every enemy it faced, save for one.
Here's an example of the team in action: http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-94539052

THE TEAM

Talonflame
4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
Nature: Adamant (+Atk -SpAtk)
Item: Choice Band
Ability: Gale Wings
Moves:
Brave Bird
Flare Blitz
U-Turn
Will-O-Wisp

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Chicken

Talonflame is the lead of my team, and completely invaluable. Standard Talonflame set, except for Will-O-Wisp which tends to catch enemies by surprise for the most part, which is exactly what I was going for. I don't know what else to say about it, mainly cause she's pretty standard and straightforward. I found that as far as a Choice Band goes, I love it. Way better than Life Orb, and if you use Brave Bird with this, it does extreme amounts of damage. I'm too lazy to crunch out the numbers myself, but take my word for it, the damage is more than impressive. Anything she can't take care of, well, that's what U-Turn is for!


Greninja
4 Atk/252 SpAtk/252 Spd
Nature: Hasty (+Spd -Def)
Item: Life Orb
Ability: Protean
Moves:
Hydro Pump
Ice Beam
Dark Pulse
U-Turn

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Libre

Did I sacrifice accuracy for power? Yes. Has it paid off? Mostly. The occasional turn when Hydro Pump miss is always a vital one, since, obviously, Greninja relies on it to do its job in order to survive. But when these moves hit, which is the vast majority of the time, they definitely pay off in their sheer amount of power. I've been considering replacing Hydro for Scald, so let me know about your thoughts on that. I already know what everyone's gonna say, go with better accuracy and burn, blah blah blah, but I want to hear your reasoning and opinions anyways. Anyways, again, a pretty standard set for a pretty standard Pokemon. Normally I don't like mainstream but these guys with these typical movesets get the job done for sure.


Aegislash
4 HP/252 Atk/252 SpAtk
IVs: 0 Speed
Nature: Brave (+Atk -Spd)
Item: Sitrus Berry / Leftovers
Ability: Stance Change
Moves:
King's Shield
Shadow Sneak
Shadow Ball
Gyro Ball

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King

This guy has been pretty good overall, as far as pulling his own weight. King's Shield for protection, Shadow Sneak for priority, Shadow Ball and Gyro Ball for pretty good coverage. He's also my counter against Trick Room teams, which almost really screwed over this team once, but I still won with a lot of thanks to a very handily slow Aegislash. As for items, I've been using Sitrus Berry on him. A few people have been surprised and said Leftovers was a better idea, but the Sitrus Berry has worked out extremely well for me and I'm unsure if leftovers would do a better job in this case. Let me know what you think, but Sitrus Berry has definitely been helping a LOT.


Goodra
252 HP/252 SpAtk/4 SpDef
Nature: Modest (+SpAtk -Atk)
Item: Choice Scarf
Ability: Gooey
Moves:
Dragon Pulse
Fire Blast
Focus Blast
Thunderbolt

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Grease

Man oh man, I had my doubts at first, but now I know. Goodra is an amazing special tank, and definitely has my respect. With a wide move pool and great stats for its purpose, it tanks some serious hits and dishes it right back out. Gooey is extremely useful because while Goodra's special defence is great, it's normal defence doesn't stand out as much at all. And that's where Gooey comes in. Any physical sweepers trying to take him out might succeed, but not without a cost. Goodra is very well set up, and I'd almost dare to say he defines the class known as Special Tanks. Again, it's moves give it awesome coverage, they all hit hard, Choice Scarf is so that he can just say "Screw it" and run in full speed with Dragon Pulse or Thunderbolt. Pretty good if you ask me.


Klefki
252 HP/128 Def/128 SpDef
Nature: Calm (+SpDef -Atk)
Item: Toxic Orb
Ability: Prankster
Moves:
Thunder Wave
Dazzling Gleam
Protect
Switcheroo

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Locke

The infamous Kefki. This little guy right here is incredible. Prankster combined with Thunder Wave takes out sweepers in a heartbeat. Switcheroo and Protect are for poison stall, not something he goes for a lot, but damage definitely adds up. Dazzling Gleam does nice damage too. Overall this little guy has impressed me; he can really take on almost every challenge. The only issue so far has been Ground types with Earthquake/Earth Power, mainly Nidoking. If anyone has suggestions for this I'm all ears.


Sylveon
252 HP/252 Def/4 SpAtk
Nature: Bold (+Def -Atk)
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Pixilate
Moves:
Baton Pass
Calm Mind
Wish
Hyper Voice

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Perry

Sylveon, the final member. She's the team cleric and support, as Heal Bell has saved me many times. I know Sylveons a special wall but I mean, come on people, let's be a little less predictable here. So gave her mixed wall stats instead, and it had worked out very well. Calm Mind and Baton Pass works well for everyone except Talonflame, but since he's a lead it usually makes no difference anyways. Wish is awesome cause well, I can heal any poke I want, which is extremely useful for members like Talonflame who are gonna have some serious recoil add up. Pixilate and Hyper Voice... Pretty standard on a Sylveon, and for good reason. I know I should have put Protect somewhere here but it's worked out the way it is. All in all pretty good.



Anyways, there's the team. Leave your comments and suggestions below and I'll let you know what I think. I really feel this team is a little more unique than what you'd normally see in the OU metagame, which is exactly what I wanted. No mainstream crap like Tentacruel and Breloom, I like a little change. Thanks for reading, hope you liked it, or inspired you to make your own more unique team, or even just use this one, I don't care. Just change up the metagame a bit, get some interesting fights around here. Thank you!
Example video of team: http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-94539052
 
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Hi there, I may not be the most pro here but here's my opinion X.

as for talonflame, banded and will-o-wisp sounds weird because you will be locked into it and forced to switch and it gets really bad when your opponent lay stealth rock considering this is a no spinner team. Maybe change it to life orb or if the recoil is too much, you can maybe try leftover, or for a non popular one, you can use flying gem to unleash a very powerful brave bird, making it able to OHKO things that usually it can't.

as for greninja, hyrdo pump good, but I think blizzard should be replaced by Ice beam, most dragons are 2HKO by it anyways might as well go for a more reliable one and more spammable, at least that's what I think.

Aegislash is really good, but I think leftover is a more reliable source of recovery and can be used to regain some HP in conjunction with King's Shield, the idea of mixed attacked attacker is good or if you want to try another set you can try the swords dance set. then you can move the EV in special attack to get more bulk so you can fare better against trick room team. Maybe invest some in HP so that you recover more from leftover if you choose to use it.

Klefki is good in this one, I like it, although I prefer my little cotton ball as my supporter XD (whimsicott), but I like the idea of switcheroo and toxic orb. You can also put flame orb to screw up physical sweeper such as scizor or even azumarill ! it would be hella hilarious XD. And flame orb also screws the like of poison heal breloom and poison heal gliscor. But toxic orb is also a better kinda anti tank / stall since it builds up in damage. the choice is yours :D

as for sylveon, I recommend the pixilate ability over cute charm and use hyper voice instead of moon blast. Why ? because simply it hits through substitute which is kinda cool, and also due to the ability it makes hyper voice hits harder than moon blast due to addition 1.3x boost, hitting dragon type harder. I do agree tho that cute charm is an annoying ability IF it activates XD. Combination of wish+protect is also available for sylveon, and it is pretty successful on my bulky offense team and for reliable recovery.

Anyway that's my thought and hope it helps,

Don't trust me too much I'm not that good XD but that's what I would do if it was my own team ^^
 
Hi there, I may not be the most pro here but here's my opinion X.

as for talonflame, banded and will-o-wisp sounds weird because you will be locked into it and forced to switch and it gets really bad when your opponent lay stealth rock considering this is a no spinner team. Maybe change it to life orb or if the recoil is too much, you can maybe try leftover, or for a non popular one, you can use flying gem to unleash a very powerful brave bird, making it able to OHKO things that usually it can't.

as for greninja, hyrdo pump good, but I think blizzard should be replaced by Ice beam, most dragons are 2HKO by it anyways might as well go for a more reliable one and more spammable, at least that's what I think.

Aegislash is really good, but I think leftover is a more reliable source of recovery and can be used to regain some HP in conjunction with King's Shield, the idea of mixed attacked attacker is good or if you want to try another set you can try the swords dance set. then you can move the EV in special attack to get more bulk so you can fare better against trick room team. Maybe invest some in HP so that you recover more from leftover if you choose to use it.

Klefki is good in this one, I like it, although I prefer my little cotton ball as my supporter XD (whimsicott), but I like the idea of switcheroo and toxic orb. You can also put flame orb to screw up physical sweeper such as scizor or even azumarill ! it would be hella hilarious XD. And flame orb also screws the like of poison heal breloom and poison heal gliscor. But toxic orb is also a better kinda anti tank / stall since it builds up in damage. the choice is yours :D

as for sylveon, I recommend the pixilate ability over cute charm and use hyper voice instead of moon blast. Why ? because simply it hits through substitute which is kinda cool, and also due to the ability it makes hyper voice hits harder than moon blast due to addition 1.3x boost, hitting dragon type harder. I do agree tho that cute charm is an annoying ability IF it activates XD. Combination of wish+protect is also available for sylveon, and it is pretty successful on my bulky offense team and for reliable recovery.

Anyway that's my thought and hope it helps,

Don't trust me too much I'm not that good XD but that's what I would do if it was my own team ^^
Thanks, that helped a lot, especially with Sylveon. I'll take it all into consideration! Physical Aegislash might actually be a really good idea, I'll test it out!
 
Thanks, that helped a lot, especially with Sylveon. I'll take it all into consideration! Physical Aegislash might actually be a really good idea, I'll test it out!
Just make sure if you use Swords Dance Aegislash, you watch out for common users of Will-O-Wisp like Rotom-W, Trevenant, and Jellicent. As King's Shield does not block out status moves... which would be totally overpowered if it did.
 
Hey there Van! This team looks really solid and has threats that would be hard to beat, but as always, no team is perfect and could always have edits. Here are some of my opinions:

Talonflame: The standard set, which is always good. I don't see any change with it as Tailwind doesn't help the majority of your team barring Greninja

Greninja: Ice Beam > Blizzard. STAB Ice Beam already OHKO's the majority of Dragon Type Pokemon as shown here:

252 SpA Life Orb Protean Greninja Ice Beam vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Garchomp: 749-879 (209.2 - 245.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 SpA Life Orb Protean Greninja Ice Beam vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Multiscale Dragonite: 328-385 (101.2 - 118.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 SpA Life Orb Protean Greninja Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Flygon: 785-925 (260.7 - 307.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 SpA Life Orb Protean Greninja Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Salamence: 785-925 (237.1 - 279.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Otherwise, nothing really to change.

Aegislash: I think you should change the set completely as you'll want a wallbreaker. Rotom-W already beats both of your main mons, Aegislash should be your counter. Try this set for testing, it's a set I use a lot and works like a charm when used correctly ^-^
Aegislash @ Weakness Policy
Ability: Stance Change
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 SAtk
Brave Nature
IVs: 0 Spd
- King's Shield
- Sacred Sword
- Shadow Ball
- Shadow Sneak

First lets start with the EV/IV spread. We have obvious 252 is both stats to deal massive damage, 4 HP as the extra little health. Weakness Policy is my personal favourite Aegislash Item. It strikes fear into your opponents heart once they realize that they gave you more power. King's Shield for obvious reasons, Sacred Sword > Iron Head personally, otherwise we're walled like hell by Bisharp, and Chansey. Others are our main Ghost moves and Shadow Ball does a hell of a lot of damage to anything not resisting it.

Goodra, Klefki, and Sylveon: I'll leave this to other people, I have almost never used these three Pokes.

That's my rate! Good luck!
 
Hey, I have one minor suggestion to make. You have two special walls, despite sylveon being mixed it is still heavily special based. So my suggestion is simply to switch goodra to a Physical wall so you have a more rounded team. Possible replacement pokemon include Mandibuzz and Tyranitar. Each one would bring something to your team.
Mandibuzz would provide your team with Defog which would greatly help your talonflame, it would also provide a large amount of bulk and Can be equipped with taunt to stop setup sweepers or stallers.
Mandibuzz @ Leftovers
Ability: Overcoat
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SDef [If playing on cartridge use 252 HP / 252 DEF / 4 SDef]
Bold Nature
- Foul Play
- Taunt
- Defog / Toxic
- Roost


Tyranitar Would provide you with a very bulky attacker or a setup sweeper. Optionally it could be used as a mega as well which you do not have on your team.
http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/tyranitar.3490010/
The recommended sets are available to look at there.

There are of course other defensive pokemon you could choose but with two steel types already in your team, most common physically defensive pokemon are steel type.

Hope it helps :)
 
Hey there Van! This team looks really solid and has threats that would be hard to beat, but as always, no team is perfect and could always have edits. Here are some of my opinions:

Talonflame: The standard set, which is always good. I don't see any change with it as Tailwind doesn't help the majority of your team barring Greninja

Greninja: Ice Beam > Blizzard. STAB Ice Beam already OHKO's the majority of Dragon Type Pokemon as shown here:

252 SpA Life Orb Protean Greninja Ice Beam vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Garchomp: 749-879 (209.2 - 245.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 SpA Life Orb Protean Greninja Ice Beam vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Multiscale Dragonite: 328-385 (101.2 - 118.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 SpA Life Orb Protean Greninja Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Flygon: 785-925 (260.7 - 307.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 SpA Life Orb Protean Greninja Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Salamence: 785-925 (237.1 - 279.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Otherwise, nothing really to change.

Aegislash: I think you should change the set completely as you'll want a wallbreaker. Rotom-W already beats both of your main mons, Aegislash should be your counter. Try this set for testing, it's a set I use a lot and works like a charm when used correctly ^-^
Aegislash @ Weakness Policy
Ability: Stance Change
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 SAtk
Brave Nature
IVs: 0 Spd
- King's Shield
- Sacred Sword
- Shadow Ball
- Shadow Sneak

First lets start with the EV/IV spread. We have obvious 252 is both stats to deal massive damage, 4 HP as the extra little health. Weakness Policy is my personal favourite Aegislash Item. It strikes fear into your opponents heart once they realize that they gave you more power. King's Shield for obvious reasons, Sacred Sword > Iron Head personally, otherwise we're walled like hell by Bisharp, and Chansey. Others are our main Ghost moves and Shadow Ball does a hell of a lot of damage to anything not resisting it.

Goodra, Klefki, and Sylveon: I'll leave this to other people, I have almost never used these three Pokes.

That's my rate! Good luck!
Nice! Tried out your suggestions, and they were an improvement. Thanks!
 
Hey, I have one minor suggestion to make. You have two special walls, despite sylveon being mixed it is still heavily special based. So my suggestion is simply to switch goodra to a Physical wall so you have a more rounded team. Possible replacement pokemon include Mandibuzz and Tyranitar. Each one would bring something to your team.
Mandibuzz would provide your team with Defog which would greatly help your talonflame, it would also provide a large amount of bulk and Can be equipped with taunt to stop setup sweepers or stallers.
Mandibuzz @ Leftovers
Ability: Overcoat
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SDef [If playing on cartridge use 252 HP / 252 DEF / 4 SDef]
Bold Nature
- Foul Play
- Taunt
- Defog / Toxic
- Roost


Tyranitar Would provide you with a very bulky attacker or a setup sweeper. Optionally it could be used as a mega as well which you do not have on your team.
http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/tyranitar.3490010/
The recommended sets are available to look at there.

There are of course other defensive pokemon you could choose but with two steel types already in your team, most common physically defensive pokemon are steel type.

Hope it helps :)
This is why people should read the thread before commenting....
 
Just make sure if you use Swords Dance Aegislash, you watch out for common users of Will-O-Wisp like Rotom-W, Trevenant, and Jellicent. As King's Shield does not block out status moves... which would be totally overpowered if it did.
Nice touch. Will do Solar, thanks for the tips! :D
 
Don't put Pokebank OU in title if you don't want pokebank pokemon. You could still possibly benefit from a defensive pokemon such as gourgeist/chesnaught/Avalugg despite another Fire weakness. Otherwise Zygarde would possibly fill a similar role to Goodra whilst being physical defence rather than special.
 
You got bored of 'the same stereotypical Pokémon' and use 3 of the 5 most used OU Pokémon?

As far as your team goes, sticking to Kalos Mon only means no spinner/defogger other than Avalugg which has a lot of issues due to bad typing and awful special bulk.

This cuts down on Talonflame's durability significantly so I'd suggest running a fast taunter (Talonflame gets it) and/or running roost on Talonflame to prevent rocks from going up or recover some health, this unfortunately means no band so maybe go for a sharp beak or leftovers, even Sitrus Berry+Acrobatics is an option.

Because of Gale Wings Talonflame doesn't need that much speed investment, I'd recommend 60 EVs to outspeed Jolly Excadrill with Flare Blitz.

Blizzard is an awful move on just about everything that's not Abomasnow as Ice Beam is much more reliable, Hydro Pump is another story as it has considerably better accuracy than Blizzard.

Gyro Ball is outclassed by Iron Head on Aegislash against almost everything and both are generally outclassed by Sacred Sword which, while not STAB, provides perfect coverage with ghost, Quiet Nature is preferred due to Shadow Ball being the main attacking move on the set.

Your Klefki set is awful, protect is completely out of place, why use Switcheroo Toxic Orb when Toxic accomplishes more or less the same if you wanna cripple something with switcheroo run something like choice scarf/specs/band or lagging tail, Dazzling Gleam is pretty weak with Klefki's SpA, Foul Play is the only attack move Klefki should be running.

Your Sylveon set is all over the place, calm mind sets should run at least two attack moves (Pixilate Hyper Voice and Shadow Ball give the best coverage) a cleric set should run Wish. I'd drop the whole Baton Pass thing and just run a Cleric Set.
 
You got bored of 'the same stereotypical Pokémon' and use 3 of the 5 most used OU Pokémon?

As far as your team goes, sticking to Kalos Mon only means no spinner/defogger other than Avalugg which has a lot of issues due to bad typing and awful special bulk.

This cuts down on Talonflame's durability significantly so I'd suggest running a fast taunter (Talonflame gets it) and/or running roost on Talonflame to prevent rocks from going up or recover some health, this unfortunately means no band so maybe go for a sharp beak or leftovers, even Sitrus Berry+Acrobatics is an option.

Because of Gale Wings Talonflame doesn't need that much speed investment, I'd recommend 60 EVs to outspeed Jolly Excadrill with Flare Blitz.

Blizzard is an awful move on just about everything that's not Abomasnow as Ice Beam is much more reliable, Hydro Pump is another story as it has considerably better accuracy than Blizzard.

Gyro Ball is outclassed by Iron Head on Aegislash against almost everything and both are generally outclassed by Sacred Sword which, while not STAB, provides perfect coverage with ghost, Quiet Nature is preferred due to Shadow Ball being the main attacking move on the set.

Your Klefki set is awful, protect is completely out of place, why use Switcheroo Toxic Orb when Toxic accomplishes more or less the same if you wanna cripple something with switcheroo run something like choice scarf/specs/band or lagging tail, Dazzling Gleam is pretty weak with Klefki's SpA, Foul Play is the only attack move Klefki should be running.

Your Sylveon set is all over the place, calm mind sets should run at least two attack moves (Pixilate Hyper Voice and Shadow Ball give the best coverage) a cleric set should run Wish. I'd drop the whole Baton Pass thing and just run a Cleric Set.
You really just aren't good at this game are you. Either that or your the lamest, most boring person I've ever met. I think it's both. You should get some exercise and stop eating chips and chocolate all the time, it helps with the grumpiness :)
 
Don't put Pokebank OU in title if you don't want pokebank pokemon. You could still possibly benefit from a defensive pokemon such as gourgeist/chesnaught/Avalugg despite another Fire weakness. Otherwise Zygarde would possibly fill a similar role to Goodra whilst being physical defence rather than special.
Read the beginning. I want 6 gen pokemon ONLY. If you have any suggestions that follow those guidelines I'm open to them, but make sure to READ THE DESCRIPTION OF THE TEAM BEFORE YOU COMMENT.
 
You really just aren't good at this game are you. Either that or your the lamest, most boring person I've ever met. I think it's both. You should get some exercise and stop eating chips and chocolate all the time, it helps with the grumpiness :)

I'm not good at this game? Look at your team man, this is laughable, you post your team up as a RMT and the choose to ignore the advice and instead insult people that try to help you?

What is wrong with you?
 
I'm not good at this game? Look at your team man, this is laughable, you post your team up as a RMT and the choose to ignore the advice and instead insult people that try to help you?

What is wrong with you?
Yeah when they completely ignore the description of the team. The point was 6th gen pokemon only, so this chick over here apparently can't read. On top of that I've got you now, typical cranky never-leaves-the-house that tries to insult decent teams to make himself feel better cause he can't make his own team for shit. If you look at ALL the comments before making comments like the bonehead you are, you'd see the majority of people think this IS as a matter of fact a fairly solid team, in need of only a few tweaks and edits. This team wasn't even originally meant to be legitimately competitive, I was just having fun and made it as I went along. SO THANK YOU MITCHHHHHH FOR YOUR CONTRIBUTION TO SOCIETY. THAT WILL BE ALL. MITCH.
 
Yeah when they completely ignore the description of the team. The point was 6th gen pokemon only, so this chick over here apparently can't read. On top of that I've got you now, typical cranky never-leaves-the-house that tries to insult decent teams to make himself feel better cause he can't make his own team for shit. If you look at ALL the comments before making comments like the bonehead you are, you'd see the majority of people think this IS as a matter of fact a fairly solid team, in need of only a few tweaks and edits. This team wasn't even originally meant to be legitimately competitive, I was just having fun and made it as I went along. SO THANK YOU MITCHHHHHH FOR YOUR CONTRIBUTION TO SOCIETY. THAT WILL BE ALL. MITCH.
You realize I corrected myself with 6th gen Pokemon on my 2nd post, which either YOU didn't read or you chose to ignore out of spite, and mitch is definitely right about some of his suggestions so you can ignore his suggestions all you want but they are there to help improve your team.
 
You realize I corrected myself with 6th gen Pokemon on my 2nd post, which either YOU didn't read or you chose to ignore out of spite, and mitch is definitely right about some of his suggestions so you can ignore his suggestions all you want but they are there to help improve your team.
He has ONE good suggestion. It would help his case a lot if he wasn't such a chode. I mean come on, are you saying this guy doesn't come off as a completely immature dick right from the start? I didn't mean to insult you btw, you were actually trying to be nice and helpful. So my apologies.
 
He has ONE good suggestion. It would help his case a lot if he wasn't such a chode. I mean come on, are you saying this guy doesn't come off as a completely immature dick right from the start? I didn't mean to insult you btw, you were actually trying to be nice and helpful. So my apologies.
I would say he had a couple good suggestions although his opening comment wasn't the best way of starting his post, Sylveon really needs Wish especially when you have talonflame who most of the time recoils himself to death.Klefki I never use so I have no idea what that set is like. My personal choice for Aegislash would be:
Nature: Brave (+Atk -Spd)
Item: Weakness Policy
Ability: Stance Change
Moves:
King's Shield
Shadow Sneak
Shadow Ball
Iron Head
Only minor changes and they are just preference really.

Goodra get's destroyed by almost every other dragon available hence my suggestion for using Zygarde as a test, No idea how good zygarde is but it provides some Physical Bulk and can run some good team supporting move sets. Your final two pokemon are just down to preference again as the will-o-wisp and u-turn are more filler moves than anything else in my opnion. A 6th gen defogger/spinner could prove useful but I have no idea if any 6th gen pokemon use it.
 
I would say he had a couple good suggestions although his opening comment wasn't the best way of starting his post, Sylveon really needs Wish especially when you have talonflame who most of the time recoils himself to death.Klefki I never use so I have no idea what that set is like. My personal choice for Aegislash would be:
Nature: Brave (+Atk -Spd)
Item: Weakness Policy
Ability: Stance Change
Moves:
King's Shield
Shadow Sneak
Shadow Ball
Iron Head
Only minor changes and they are just preference really.

Goodra get's destroyed by almost every other dragon available hence my suggestion for using Zygarde as a test, No idea how good zygarde is but it provides some Physical Bulk and can run some good team supporting move sets. Your final two pokemon are just down to preference again as the will-o-wisp and u-turn are more filler moves than anything else in my opnion. A 6th gen defogger/spinner could prove useful but I have no idea if any 6th gen pokemon use it.
Fair enough. I really like the Sylveon Wish idea, so thanks for that, and Aegislash with that set looks good. I found this team really struggles with Trick Room sweeper teams, so that's why I put the slow/Gyro Ball thing on him. You think I should just change Iron Head or give him speed too??? And I'll try putting defence EVs on Goodra and see how it goes, if it doesn't work out I'll consider Zygarde. Thanks!
 
Fair enough. I really like the Sylveon Wish idea, so thanks for that, and Aegislash with that set looks good. I found this team really struggles with Trick Room sweeper teams, so that's why I put the slow/Gyro Ball thing on him. You think I should just change Iron Head or give him speed too??? And I'll try putting defence EVs on Goodra and see how it goes, if it doesn't work out I'll consider Zygarde. Thanks!
I would switch to Flashcannon, most fairy types are rather slow and gyro ball is too situational making iron head more reliable of those two. flash cannon allows you to run Special Attack EV's which would also help out shadowball and attack EV's aren't really needed for shadow sneak which I consider a finishing move rather than Killing move.
 
I would switch to Flashcannon, most fairy types are rather slow and gyro ball is too situational making iron head more reliable of those two. flash cannon allows you to run Special Attack EV's which would also help out shadowball and attack EV's aren't really needed for shadow sneak which I consider a finishing move rather than Killing move.
Fair enough. However, arguably the most common OU fairy atm is Sylveon who specializes in SpDef. Would it be better to go with Swords Dance Iron Head??
 
Iron Head hits everything as fast as starmie or slower as hard or harder than Gyro Ball.

Gyro Ball is quite possibly the worst move you could use against trick room teams:

252+ Atk Aegislash-Blade Gyro Ball (12 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Cofagrigus: 18-22 (5.6 - 6.8%)

Vs:
252+ Atk Aegislash-Blade Iron Head vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Cofagrigus: 117-138 (36.5 - 43.1%)

Both are bad moves in this example the point is Gyro Ball is significantly worse vs slow foes.

And you really need to learn how to handle criticism.
 
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