Porygon2 (Offensive Trick Room)

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After speaking with Garganator (the user who first posted this set), I've decided to take this analysis over.

Status: Finished

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http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/porygon2

[SET]
name: Offensive Trick Room
move 1: Trick Room
move 2: Ice Beam
move 3: Thunderbolt
move 4: Recover / Tri Attack / Hidden Power Fighting
ability: Download
item: Life Orb
nature: Quiet
evs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
ivs: 0 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>While the majority of Porygon2's movesets focus on its defensive capabilities, this set capitalizes on Porygon2's ability to be a self-supporting Trick Room sweeper. After setting up Trick Room, Porygon2 can begin its BoltBeam assault, hitting everything but Lanturn and Shedinja for at least neutral damage. The fourth moveset comes down to how you would like to play Porygon2. Recover is the more defensive option, allowing Porygon2 to attempt multiple sweeps and shrug off any damage it may take upon switching in. Be wary of using Recover in Trick Room, however; Trick Room only lasts for five turns, during which Porygon2 need to do the majority of its sweeping. Speaking of sweeping, Tri Attack is another useful attack Porygon2 has at its disposal, hitting Lanturn for neutral damage and adding a STAB attack to its arsenal. On the other hand, Hidden Power Fighting is a reliable option to hit Steel- and Dark-types harder and for making a larger dent in Chansey as she switches in (Porygon2 can't KO her, however).</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>If you'd like to make Porygon2 a bit bulkier, an alternate spread of 252 HP / 156 SpA / 100 SpD is available. Utilizing this spread makes setting up Trick Room against the likes of special Venusaur and Milotic much easier. However, Porygon will miss out on a 2HKO against specially defensive Clefable with Tri Attack with this investment.</p>

<p>Porygon2's teammates are quite variable and should depend on how you plan to use Trick Room - for Porygon2's benefit alone or for the team as a whole. While Trick Room is in effect, Pokemon with low Speed such as Trapinch, Hariyama, and Slowbro are all decent options, since all three have a much easier time sweeping in Trick Room. Trapinch is typically only seen on Trick Room teams and can act as a potent revenge killer thanks to Arena Trap, a decent base 100 Attack stat, and Quick Attack. Hariyama's ability allows it to absorb status that might hinder other Pokemon. In fact, while under Trick Room, paralysis boosts both Hariyama's Attack and Speed, since it will quarter Hariyama's already low Speed stat and activate Guts at the same time. Slowbro's ability to set up Trick Room and use Slack Off to recover lost HP makes it an excellent supporting tank on Trick Room teams, although its sibling, Slowking, is a better offensive choice since it can boosts its Special Attack quicker via Nasty Plot.</p>

<p>Should you choose to make Porygon2 a standalone Trick Room sweeper, your options for teammates become much more conventional. Absol makes a great switch-in against Ghost-types who expect Tri Attack, as does Skuntank. If your opponent uses Taunt often, Skuntank may be the better of the two, since it's not weak to the Fighting-type attacks that many Ghost-types carry. Blaziken is able to go on the offensive much easier with the absence of Milotic (whom this set KOes with minimal effort) and can handle any Registeel who may try to stall out Trick Room or attempt to wall Porygon2. This set struggles against Hitmontop - especially the TechniTop set - so plan accordingly. Common checks against Hitmontop include Flying-types such as Swellow, Ghost-types like Spiritomb, and Psychic-types such as the aforementioned Slowbro.</p>
 
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Xia said:
After speaking with Garganator (the user who first posted this set), I've decided to take this analysis over.

Status: Proofreading Stage

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http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/porygon2

[SET]
name: Offensive Trick Room
move 1: Trick Room
move 2: Ice Beam
move 3: Thunderbolt
move 4: Recover / Tri Attack / Hidden Power Fighting
ability: Download
item: Life Orb
nature: Quiet
evs: 252 HP / 100 SpD / 156 SpA

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>While the majority of Porygon2's movesets focus on its defensive capabilities, this set capitalizes on Porygon2's ability to be a self-supported Trick Room sweeper. After setting up Trick Room, Porygon2 can begin its BoltBeam assault, hitting everything but Lanturn and Shedinja for neutral damage. The fourth moveset comes down to how you'd like to play Porygon2. Recover is the more defensive option, allowing Porygon2 to attempt multiple sweeps and shrug off any damage it may take upon switching in. Be wary of using recover in Trick Room, however; Trick Room only lasts for five turns, during which you'll need to do the majority of your sweeping. Speaking of sweeping, Tri Attack is another useful attack Porygon2 has at its disposal, hitting Lanturn for neutral damage and adding a STAB attack to its arsenal. On the other hand, Hidden Power Fighting is a reliable option to hit Steel- and Dark-types harder and for making larger dents in Chansey as it switches in (Porygon2 can't KO it, however).</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>The allocated Special Attack EVs provide Porygon2's attacks with some added bite, while the defensive EVs help Porygon2 tank attacks from the more popular end of the spectrum. Doing so makes taking down the likes of special Venusaur and Milotic much easier. However, a full sweeper spread of 252 HP / 252 SpA with a Quiet nature and Speed IV of zero will help Porygon2 reach its maximum potential; just don't expect it to tank as many special attacks.</p>

<p>Porygon2's teammates are quite variable, as it depends on whether you plan on using a full team dependent on Trick Room or just Porygon2. While Trick Room is in effect, Pokemon with low Speed, such as Trapinch, Hariyama, and Slowbro, are all decent options, since all three have a much easier time sweeping with twisted dimensions. Trapinch is typically only seen on Trick Room teams, and can act as a strong revenge killer, thanks to Arena Trap, a decent base 100 Attack stat, and Quick Attack. Hariyama's ability, Guts, allows it to absorb statuses that may hinder other Pokemon. In fact, while under Trick Room, paralysis boosts both Hariyama's Attack and Speed, since it will quarter Hariyama's already low Speed stat. Slowbro's ability to set up Trick Room and Slack Off damage makes it an excellent tank on Trick Room teams, although its sibling, Slowking, is a better offensive choice since it can boosts its Special Attack with much more ease.</p>

<p>Should you choose to make Porygon2 a stand-alone Trick Room sweeper, your options for teammates become much more conventional. Absol makes a great switch-in against Ghost-types who expect Tri Attack, as does Skuntank. If your opponent heavily uses Taunt a lot, Skuntank may be the better of the two, since it doesn't need to use Swords Dance to boost its Attack. Blaziken is able to go on the offensive much easier in the absence of Milotic (whom this set KOes with minimal effort) and can handle any Steelix who may try to take advantage of Trick Room or attempt to wall off Porygon2. This set does struggle against Hitmontop - especially the TechniTop set - so plan accordingly. Common checks against Hitmontop include Flying-types, such as Swellow, Ghost-types like Spiritomb, and Psychic-types, such as the aforementioned Slowbro.</p>
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Good job; I couldn't find a space to put the "heavily" part in, so I just replaced it with "a lot" and moved it back, as shown.
 
Xia said:
After speaking with Garganator (the user who first posted this set), I've decided to take this analysis over.

Status: Proofreading Stage

233.png

http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/porygon2

[SET]
name: Offensive Trick Room
move 1: Trick Room
move 2: Ice Beam
move 3: Thunderbolt
move 4: Recover / Tri Attack / Hidden Power Fighting
ability: Download
item: Life Orb
nature: Quiet
evs: 252 HP / 100 SpD / 156 SpA

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>While the majority of Porygon2's movesets focus on its defensive capabilities, this set capitalizes on Porgon2's ability to be a self-supported Trick Room sweeper. After setting up Trick Room, Porygon2 can begin its BoltBeam assault, hitting everything but Lanturn and Shedinja for neutral damage. The fourth moveslot comes down to how you'd like to play Porygon2. Recover is the more defensive option, allowing Porygon2 to attempt multiple sweeps and shrug off any damage it may take upon switching in. Be wary of using Recover in Trick Room, however; Trick Room only lasts for five turns, during which you'll need to do the majority of your sweeping. Speaking of sweeping, Tri Attack is another useful attack Porygon2 has at its disposal, hitting Lanturn for neutral damage and adding a STAB attack to its arsenal. On the other hand, Hidden Power Fighting is a reliable option to hit Steel- and Dark-types harder and for making larger dents in Chansey as it switches in (Porygon2 can't KO it, however).</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>The allocated Special Attack EVs add some bite to Porygon2's attacks, while the defensive EVs help Porygon2 tank attacks from the more popular end of the spectrum. Doing so makes taking down the likes of special Venusaur and Milotic much easier. However, a full sweeper spread of 252 HP / 252 SpA with a Quiet nature and Speed IV of zero will help Porygon2 reach its maximum potential, just don't expect it to tank as many special attacks.</p>

<p>Porygon2's teammates are quite variable and should depend on how you plan to use Trick Room - for Porygon's benefit alone or for the team as a whole. While Trick Room is in effect, Pokemon with low Speed, such as Trapinch, Hariyama, and Slowbro, are all decent options, since all three have a much easier time sweeping with twisted dimensions. Trapinch is typically only seen on Trick Room teams, and can act as a strong revenge killer, thanks to its ability Arena Trap, a decent base 100 Attack stat, and Quick Attack. Hariyama's ability, Guts, allows it to absorb statuses that might hinder other Pokemon. In fact, while under Trick Room, paralysis boosts both Hariyama's Attack and Speed, since it will halve Hariyama's already low Speed stat. Slowbro's ability to set up Trick Room and Slack Off damage makes it an excellent tank on Trick Room teams, although its sibling, Slowking, is a better offensive choice since it can boosts its Special Attack much quicker.</p>

<p>Should you choose to make Porygon2 a stand-alone Trick Room sweeper, your options for teammates become much more conventional. Absol makes a great switch-in against Ghost-types who expect Tri Attack, as does Skuntank. If your opponent uses Taunt often, Skuntank may be the better of the two, since it doesn't need to use Swords Dance to boost its Attack. Blaziken is able to go on the offensive much easier in the absence of Milotic (whom this set KOes with minimal effort) and can handle any Steelix who may try to take advantage of Trick Room or attempts to wall off Porygon2. This set struggles against Hitmontop - especially the TechniTop set - so plan accordingly. Common checks against Hitmontop include Flying-types, such as Swellow, Ghost-types like Spiritomb, and Psychic-types, such as the aforementioned Slowbro.</p>
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Pretty nice.
 
I mixed and matched both of your suggestions in the OP. Thank you both for helping me out.
 
[SET]
name: Offensive Trick Room
move 1: Trick Room
move 2: Ice Beam
move 3: Thunderbolt
move 4: Recover / Tri Attack / Hidden Power Fighting
ability: Download
item: Life Orb
nature: Quiet
evs: 252 HP / 100 SpD / 156 SpA

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>While the majority of Porygon2's movesets focus on its defensive capabilities, this set capitalizes on Porygon2's ability to be a self-supporting Trick Room sweeper. After setting up Trick Room, Porygon2 can begin its BoltBeam assault, hitting everything but Lanturn and Shedinja for neutral damage. The fourth moveset comes down to how you would like to play Porygon2. Recover is the more defensive option, allowing Porygon2 to attempt multiple sweeps and shrug off any damage it may take upon switching in and setting up Trick Room. Be wary of using Recover in Trick Room, however; Trick Room only lasts for five turns, during which Porygon2 need to do the majority of its sweeping. Speaking of sweeping, Tri Attack is another useful attack Porygon2 has at its disposal, hitting Lanturn for neutral damage and adding a STAB attack to its arsenal. On the other hand, Hidden Power Fighting is a reliable option to hit Steel- and Dark-types harder and for making a larger dent in Chansey as she [Chansey is always female] switches in (Porygon2 can't KO her, however).</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>The allocated Special Attack EVs provide Porygon2's attacks with some added bite, while the defensive EVs help Porygon2 tank attacks from the physical end of the spectrum. Doing so makes taking down the likes of special Venusaur and Milotic much easier. However, a full sweeper spread of 252 HP / 252 SpA with a Quiet nature and Speed IV of zero will allow Porygon2 to reach its maximum potential; just don't expect it to tank as many special attacks.</p>

<p>Porygon2's teammates are quite varying, and should depend on how you plan to use Trick Room; for Porygon2's benefit alone or for the team as a whole. While Trick Room is in effect, Pokemon with low Speed, such as Trapinch, Hariyama, and Slowbro, are all decent options, since all three have a much easier time sweeping with Trick Room in effect. Trapinch is typically only seen on Trick Room teams, and can act as a strong revenge killer, thanks to Arena Trap, a decent base 100 Attack stat, and Quick Attack. Hariyama's Guts ability allows it to absorb status that might hinder other Pokemon. In fact, while under Trick Room, paralysis boosts both Hariyama's Attack and Speed, since it will quarter Hariyama's already low Speed stat. Slowbro's ability to set up Trick Room and and use Slack Off to heal damage makes it an excellent tank on Trick Room teams, although its sibling, Slowking, is a better offensive choice since it can boost its Special Attack more quickly.</p>

<p>Should you choose to make Porygon2 a stand-alone Trick Room sweeper, your options for teammates become much more conventional. Absol makes a great switch-in against Ghost-types who expect Tri Attack, as does Skuntank. If your opponent uses Taunt often, Skuntank may be the better of the two, since it doesn't need to use Swords Dance to boost its Attack. [this sentence doesn't make a lot of sense to me as Absol already has a higher Attack stat than Skuntank as it stands] Blaziken is able to go on the offensive much more easily with the absence of Milotic (whom this set KOes with minimal effort) and can handle any Steelix who may try to take advantage of Trick Room or attempt to wall off Porygon2. This set struggles against Hitmontop (especially the TechniTop set) so plan accordingly. Common checks against Hitmontop include Flying-types, such as Swellow, Ghost-types like Spiritomb, and Psychic-types, such as the aforementioned Slowbro.</p>

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Good job!
 
"and can handle any Steelix who may try to take advantage of Trick Room or attempt to wall off Porygon2."

It's a little nitpick. Porygon2 with 156 SpA EVs and Download boost deals minimum 59% to Max HP/Max SpD Careful with Ice Beam, so I don't think he can wall it (the best thing that Steelix can do is to explode while taking one Ice Beam). Maybe it would be better to replace it for Registeel here ?

Otherwise good job. Now I know how it's supposed to look like.
 
Edited in the majority of your changes Snorlaxe (anything I didn't edit in was more or less just stylistic changes) and fixed that sentence Garganator. Thank you.
 
Hi Xia!

Xia said:
[SET]
name: Offensive Trick Room
move 1: Trick Room
move 2: Ice Beam
move 3: Thunderbolt
move 4: Recover / Tri Attack / Hidden Power Fighting
ability: Download
item: Life Orb
nature: Quiet
evs: 252 HP / 100 SpD / 156 SpA

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>While the majority of Porygon2's movesets focus on its defensive capabilities, this set capitalizes on Porygon2's ability to be a self-supporting Trick Room sweeper. After setting up Trick Room, Porygon2 can begin its BoltBeam assault, hitting everything but Lanturn and Shedinja for neutral or super effective damage [You don't hit everything neutrally.]. The fourth moveset comes down to how you would like to play Porygon2. Recover is the more defensive option, allowing Porygon2 to attempt multiple sweeps and shrug off any damage it may take upon switching in. Be wary of using Recover in Trick Room, however; Trick Room only lasts for five turns, during which Porygon2 need to do the majority of its sweeping. Speaking of sweeping, Tri Attack is another useful attack Porygon2 has at its disposal, hitting Lanturn for neutral damage and adding a STAB attack to its arsenal. On the other hand, Hidden Power Fighting is a reliable option to hit Steel- and Dark-types harder and for making a larger dent in Chansey as she switches in (Porygon2 can't KO her, however).</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>The allocated Special Attack EVs provide Porygon2's attacks with some added bite, while the defensive EVs help Porygon2 tank attacks from the more popular end of the spectrum [I thought we stopped using "spectrum" in our analyses?]. Doing so makes taking down the likes of special Venusaur and Milotic much easier. However, a full sweeper spread of 252 HP / 252 SpA with a Quiet nature and Speed IV of zero will help Porygon2 reach its maximum potential; just don't expect it to tank as many special attacks. [Why is it important for this Porygon2 to take special attacks from the likes of Venusaur and Milotic? Both of these are threatened by Ice Beam and Thunderbolt, respectively. Why is 100 EVs used anyway? Does it let it survive something specific?]</p>

<p>Porygon2's teammates are quite variable and should depend on how you plan to use Trick Room - for Porygon2's benefit alone or for the team as a whole. While Trick Room is in effect, Pokemon with low Speed such as Trapinch, Hariyama, and Slowbro are all decent options, since all three have a much easier time sweeping in Trick Room. Trapinch is typically only seen on Trick Room teams and can act as a potent revenge killer thanks to Arena Trap, a decent base 100 Attack stat, and Quick Attack. Hariyama's ability allows it to absorb status that might hinder other Pokemon. In fact, while under Trick Room, paralysis boosts both Hariyama's Attack and Speed, since it will quarter Hariyama's already low Speed stat and activate Guts at the same time. Slowbro's ability to set up Trick Room and use Slack Off to recover lost HP makes it an excellent supporting tank on Trick Room teams, although its sibling, Slowking, is a better offensive choice since it can boosts its Special Attack quicker via Nasty Plot.</p>

<p>Should you choose to make Porygon2 a standalone Trick Room sweeper, your options for teammates become much more conventional. Absol makes a great switch-in against Ghost-types who expect Tri Attack, as does Skuntank. If your opponent uses Taunt often, Skuntank may be the better of the two, since it's not weak to Hidden Power Fighting that many Ghost-types carry. Blaziken is able to go on the offensive much easier with the absence of Milotic (whom this set KOes with minimal effort) and can handle any Registeel who may try to stall out Trick Room or attempt to wall Porygon2. This set struggles against Hitmontop - especially the TechniTop set - so plan accordingly. Common checks against Hitmontop include Flying-types such as Swellow, Ghost-types like Spiritomb, and Psychic-types such as the aforementioned Slowbro.</p>
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Nice job Xia. I've used this set a lot on my Trick Room team and it's awesome.
 
Thanks Fuzznip. As far as the EV spread's 100 SpD investment goes, it just allows Porygon to set up Trick Room without dying on the spot. If there's enough people that would rather see the full sweeper spread put as the main option and the bulkier spread listed in AC I'd have no problems swapping them; this is th espread Garganator posted, so I didn't mess with it.
 
Thanks Fuzznip. As far as the EV spread's 100 SpD investment goes, it just allows Porygon to set up Trick Room without dying on the spot. If there's enough people that would rather see the full sweeper spread put as the main option and the bulkier spread listed in AC I'd have no problems swapping them; this is th espread Garganator posted, so I didn't mess with it
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156 SpA Evs + Download + Life Orb guarrantees 2OHKO on Max HP/Max SpD Steelix no matter what with SR up (minimum 50%, counting Leftovers and SR, so yeah, those EVs have specific purpose, while helping Porygon2 keep his walling abilities). But when I think of it, Max HP/Max SpA is better choice, especially if you use Tri Attack (Specially defensive Clefable is 2OHKOed after Download Boost by Tri Attack).
 
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