XY OU Pinsir Shall Sweep

Heya, Today I shall be doing my 2nd Ever RMT (OMG WHY AM I EXCITED)............Anyways, I've been using this team for quite a while on multiple alts, trying to ladder it on my "NotZoro" Alt. Although not my best team, but I had fun using it so GIMME MOAR OF DEM SUGGESTIONS


Say Hello To Pinsir

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Scythe (Pinsir) @ Pinsirite
Ability: Mold Breaker
Happiness: 0
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Quick Attack
- Swords Dance
- Frustration
- Earthquake

This guy is just an ABSOLUTE MONSTER, able to destroy Heatran + Venusaur Core and after one swords dance, it will tear you apart. And when paired with Keldeo, omaigod they make such a great offensive core :3 Anyways....Movesets are self explanatory:

Quick Attack: Basic priority move, Able to OHKO greninja after 1 SD.

Swords Dance: Your typical Set Up Move, After 1-2 Boost it becomes unstoppable, well, until Skarmory comes in.

Frustration: STAB Move. Frustration since most dittos have 255 Happiness, Frustration will have 1 Damage.

Earthquake: Basic coverage move. Especially to hit Aegislash and Heatran.


Welcoming The Majestic Pony........Keldeo

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Matey (Keldeo) @ Choice Specs
Ability: Justified
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Scald
- Hydro Pump
- Hidden Power [Flying] (Suggested by Dalai_Drama)
- Secret Sword

(Omaigod Sorry for the large picture) ALL HAIL KELDEO, THE MAJESTIC PONY SHALL DESTROY EVERYONE IN ITS WAY. Okay, Here we have the last half of the offensive core. Keldeo is one of the best, if not, the best wallbreaker in OU. Keldeo can easily OHKO Landorus-T, Gliscor, Skarmory and any physical boundaries that Mega Pinsir might have trouble facing.

Scald: Main STAB move for me. Does enough damage to OHKO Gliscor and Landorus-T.

Hydro Pump: The Wallbreaking move. I swear, Hydro Pump does too much damage with specs, OHKOs or 2OHKOs pokemon who gets hit neutrally.

Hidden Power [Flying]: This thing has saved me from Venusaurs and that mushroom..ummm amoonguss right?

Secret Sword: Basic Secondary STAB. Not much to explain here.


THE LEGENDARY......HEATRAN (NOT THE BEST I KNOW)

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Hot Mama (Heatran) @ Leftovers
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
- Lava Plume
- Stealth Rock
- Protect
- Taunt (By Unbirthday)

omaigod Heatran, Even though I wasn't a fan of this pokemon, but after using it, I can see why it is very common. This thing is just a tank, taking hits back and fourth and not giving a damn. Even if there's a physical Pokemon, It will just stay in and burn it alive with Lava Plume. Just..This thing is AMAZING.

Lava Plume: Basic "burner"? Well you know what I mean, 30% Chance of burn and it has STAB bonus.

Stealth Rock: Your Typical Hazards, Rocks comes really handy and just destroys Talonflame and Charizard.

Protect: This is more of a scouting move. Comes really handy if the opponent has gimmicky movesets.

Taunt: This is for stall teams....I seriously want to kill myself when I see one.

THE HOLY JESUS BIRD.....ZAPDOS.

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Zappy (Zapdos) @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 248 HP / 244 Def / 16 Spe
Bold Nature
- Discharge
- Roost
- Toxic
- Heat Wave
Say Hello to your friendly neighbour hood Bird Jesus. Zapdos is a great physical wall you don't understand, taking hits from Talonflame and Pinsir and able to heal back with roost is just wonderful. Heat Wave to destroy steel types like Scizor, This thing is the ultimate Bird Jesus.

Discharge: Basic STAB move. Able to paralyze, what else can I ask for? Well..Maybe except a good rock type move which have 100% accuracy.

Roost: Recovery Move. Self-Explanatory right here.

Toxic: Normal Status move. Just to damage Quagsire and non-ChestoResto Rotom-Wash

Heat Wave: To Hit Steel types for nice damage.

Behold...LATIAS.

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Touchy (Latias) (F) @ Life Orb
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Psyshock
- Defog
- Healing Wish

Oh Man..This thing is just fantastic. Great defogger and Special attacker, What else can you ask for. It destroy rotom-wash with draco meteor while being able to hit Chansey and Blissey with Psyshock. EVs are normal. Being able to damage almost everything in the Meta is truly a gift.

Draco Meteor: Destructive STAB move. This thing destroys Rotom-wash and other dragons such as Garchomp and Dragonite.

Psyshock: Secondary STAB. Allowing it to hit Chansey since Chansey is one of the most annoying walls in the Meta is truly a gift.

Defog: Basic Hazard Removal move. Allowing Pinsir to switch in safely and not worry about SR.

Healing Wish: This move have saved me more than it should, especially when I'm about to get Pursuit Trapped, immediately healing one of my teammates is great.

AMERICA'S NEW TOP MODEL....LANDORUS-T

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Rocky (Landorus-Therian) (M) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- U-turn
- Earthquake
- Knock Off
- Rock Slide


Catwalk like a Bae. This thing is a great scouter. Knock off is a great move after receiving a boost.
And with 145 base attack..This thing is destined to destroy and kill. U-turn is a great scouting move and rock slide is just for coverage.

U-Turn: Basic Scouting Move, Does a decent chunk to types it's SE against.

Earthquake: Typical STAB move. Does a Huge load and a great revenge killing move.

Knock Off: Coverage. Got a Huge boost this gen and makes choiced pokemon like Talonflame useless.

Rock Slide: Coverage again. Self-Explanatory.


So that's all I have, Please suggest and any criticism is allowed. Thanks :)

Threat List:

Greninja- If it has extransensory....The only thing that can take it down is Lando-T but it also means sacrificing one of my pokes.

Landorus-T- Not a huge threat but is still dangerous after Lando-T and Keldeo is gone.

Stall Teams- I HAVE NOTHING TO TAKE THIS KINDS OF TEAM DOWN...EXCEPT TAUNT FROM HEATRAN UNDER THEN THAT I'M SCREWED
 
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Your team feels a little weak against steel types. Please elaborate on how you are going to check people like ferrothorn, Aegi and excadrill.
Also, you seem to have poor coverage. You don't have any way of killing Dragons or people who can ridiculously dent your all guns blazing Pinsir like Bisharp.
 
Love your team, but i think you should get volt switch Instead of Discharge in the sense you get stuck in a situation and need a way out of getting out without switching into something and letting it take a hit it can't really take that well
 
Hey, your team is pretty solid but I think replacing your Zapdos with a Mandibuzz would do you a lot of good. As it stands, your team is very weak to Aegislash (who has to muscle past Heatran but doesn't have any huge trouble doing so) and especially Earthquake Latios. With Mandibuzz, you have a solid check for both and if Latios reveals to have Thunderbolt then Heatran won't have much trouble taking it on, so that's not a big deal. It also gives you a better response than just Scarf Landorus-T and Zapdos for Sand Rush Excadrill and also does exceptionally well against DD Dragonite with Earthquake, despite not resisting their STAB moves like Zapdos does, it still handles Pinsir and Talonflame. With Mandibuzz, you become a bit more susceptible to Mega Gyarados but that can be patched up by replacing Knock Off on Landorus-T with Superpower. Superpower also gives you a way to OHKO Mega Tyranitar, which Earthquake fails to do. I would also use Stone Edge over Rock Slide to OHKO Thundurus-I, but that's up to your preference. Azumarill is a little bit more troublesome but between Keldeo and Heatran inviting it in and spreading their status, it really doesn't live for too long against your team. Not to mention that everything bar Mandibuzz can hit it for a lot of damage or the prevously mentioned status. I would also consider using Taunt on Heatran over Toxic as a burn from Lava Plume cripples its usual switch-ins, as even Rotom-W despises Burn won't it usually won't stay in long enough for Toxic to rack up that much more damage. Taunt has some situations in which it is incredibly valuable such as against Magic Guard Calm Mind Clefable which only really needs Pinsir gone to sweep. It also means Pokemon such as Chansey can't set up SR to hinder your Pinsir for free.

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Heatran @ Leftovers
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Lava Plume
- Stealth Rock
- Protect
- Taunt

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Mandibuzz (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Overcoat
EVs: 240 HP / 252 Def / 16 Spd
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Foul Play
- Taunt
- Roost
- Toxic / Knock Off / Defog

(The first two moves cripple Azumarill and some other would-be-counters on the switch while Defog means you can give Latias Roost and have more survivability against Pokemon such as Keldeo, check what works best for you)

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Landorus-Therian (M) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- U-turn
- Earthquake
- Superpower
- Rock Slide / Stone Edge
 
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Hey, your team is pretty solid but I think replacing your Zapdos with a Mandibuzz would do you a lot of good. As it stands, your team is very weak to Aegislash (who has to muscle past Heatran but doesn't have any huge trouble doing so) and especially Earthquake Latios. With Mandibuzz, you have a solid check for both and if Latios reveals to have Thunderbolt then Heatran won't have much trouble taking it on, so that's not a big deal. It also gives you a better response than just Scarf Landorus-T and Zapdos for Sand Rush Excadrill and also does exceptionally well against DD Dragonite with Earthquake, despite not resisting their STAB moves like Zapdos does, it still handles Pinsir and Talonflame. With Mandibuzz, you become a bit more susceptible to Mega Gyarados but that can be patched up by replacing Knock Off on Landorus-T with Superpower. Superpower also gives you a way to OHKO Mega Tyranitar, which Earthquake fails to do. I would also use Stone Edge over Rock Slide to OHKO Thundurus-I, but that's up to your preference. Azumarill is a little bit more troublesome but between Keldeo and Heatran inviting it in and spreading their status, it really doesn't live for too long against your team. Not to mention that everything bar Mandibuzz can hit it for a lot of damage or the prevously mentioned status. I would also consider using Taunt on Heatran over Toxic as a burn from Lava Plume cripples its usual switch-ins, as even Rotom-W despises Burn won't it usually won't stay in long enough for Toxic to rack up that much more damage. Taunt has some situations in which it is incredibly valuable such as against Magic Guard Calm Mind Clefable which only really needs Pinsir gone to sweep. It also means Pokemon such as Chansey can't set up SR to hinder your Pinsir for free.

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Heatran @ Leftovers
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
- Lava Plume
- Stealth Rock
- Protect
- Taunt

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Mandibuzz (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Overcoat
EVs: 240 HP / 252 Def / 16 Spd
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Foul Play
- Taunt
- Roost
- Toxic / Knock Off / Defog
(The first two moves cripple Azumarill and some other would-be-counters on the switch while Defog means you can give Latias Roost and have more survivability against Pokemon such as Keldeo, check what works best for you)

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Landorus-Therian (M) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- U-turn
- Earthquake
- Superpower
- Rock Slide / Stone Edge
I disagree, I think Zapdos is the best option for this team that already has too much suffering against other Pinsir and flyng spam sincerely.
my suggestion is to change evs spread to Latias with 4 evs defense instead of 4 hp and 29 ivs hp to take only 9% damage by life orb, Every pokemon in this team have a super effective move 4 aegislash except 4 latias:
Zapdos Heat Wave
Landorus, EQ
Heatran Lava Plume
Pinsir EQ
Keldeo does about 70% damage with hydro pump
 
+2 252 Atk Aerilate Mega Pinsir Return vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Mandibuzz: 345-406 (81.3 - 95.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock Pinsir is strong.... Mandibuzz cannot win with him.... Zapdos is the perfect choice 4 this team
 
i think that you really don't know what you're talking about. First, we're not talking about your team, but this team. Second if you look carefully we Pinsir, Keldeo who die quickly against Thundurus, Zapdos is some physical defense and can not get over it, adding mandibuzz we will have another pokemon that flees thundy, giving always free switch. 3 of 6 pokemon is not cheap, also (as I said) Zapdos blocks flyng spam. One other thing, I see others Scarf Landorus, and Landorus Defensive dangerous for this team, they flee Heatran and Pinsir and may switch on Landorus stuck on EQ. You could try Zapdos Hp ice> Toxic.
 
If I were you I would switched Pinsir's ability with either Moxie or Hyper Cutter and swap the filler EV points in defense. Reason why is because Pinsir / Mega-Pinsir is weak to Stealth Rocks So you can come in take odd HP damage from entry hazards
 
Your team feels a little weak against steel types. Please elaborate on how you are going to check people like ferrothorn, Aegi and excadrill.
Also, you seem to have poor coverage. You don't have any way of killing Dragons or people who can ridiculously dent your all guns blazing Pinsir like Bisharp.
Yeah I didn't have time to put in the threat list, which I'm going to do right after I finish replying.

Hey, your team is pretty solid but I think replacing your Zapdos with a Mandibuzz would do you a lot of good. As it stands, your team is very weak to Aegislash (who has to muscle past Heatran but doesn't have any huge trouble doing so) and especially Earthquake Latios. With Mandibuzz, you have a solid check for both and if Latios reveals to have Thunderbolt then Heatran won't have much trouble taking it on, so that's not a big deal. It also gives you a better response than just Scarf Landorus-T and Zapdos for Sand Rush Excadrill and also does exceptionally well against DD Dragonite with Earthquake, despite not resisting their STAB moves like Zapdos does, it still handles Pinsir and Talonflame. With Mandibuzz, you become a bit more susceptible to Mega Gyarados but that can be patched up by replacing Knock Off on Landorus-T with Superpower. Superpower also gives you a way to OHKO Mega Tyranitar, which Earthquake fails to do. I would also use Stone Edge over Rock Slide to OHKO Thundurus-I, but that's up to your preference. Azumarill is a little bit more troublesome but between Keldeo and Heatran inviting it in and spreading their status, it really doesn't live for too long against your team. Not to mention that everything bar Mandibuzz can hit it for a lot of damage or the prevously mentioned status. I would also consider using Taunt on Heatran over Toxic as a burn from Lava Plume cripples its usual switch-ins, as even Rotom-W despises Burn won't it usually won't stay in long enough for Toxic to rack up that much more damage. Taunt has some situations in which it is incredibly valuable such as against Magic Guard Calm Mind Clefable which only really needs Pinsir gone to sweep. It also means Pokemon such as Chansey can't set up SR to hinder your Pinsir for free.

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Heatran @ Leftovers
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
- Lava Plume
- Stealth Rock
- Protect
- Taunt

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Mandibuzz (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Overcoat
EVs: 240 HP / 252 Def / 16 Spd
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Foul Play
- Taunt
- Roost
- Toxic / Knock Off / Defog
(The first two moves cripple Azumarill and some other would-be-counters on the switch while Defog means you can give Latias Roost and have more survivability against Pokemon such as Keldeo, check what works best for you)

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Landorus-Therian (M) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- U-turn
- Earthquake
- Superpower
- Rock Slide / Stone Edge
Hmm..The heatran set intrigues me..I think i'm gonna try it out, but as for Zapdos..I'm gonna stick with Nuanda :)

i think that you really don't know what you're talking about. First, we're not talking about your team, but this team. Second if you look carefully we Pinsir, Keldeo who die quickly against Thundurus, Zapdos is some physical defense and can not get over it, adding mandibuzz we will have another pokemon that flees thundy, giving always free switch. 3 of 6 pokemon is not cheap, also (as I said) Zapdos blocks flyng spam. One other thing, I see others Scarf Landorus, and Landorus Defensive dangerous for this team, they flee Heatran and Pinsir and may switch on Landorus stuck on EQ. You could try Zapdos Hp ice> Toxic.
Hmm HP Ice......I'm gonna test it out since I do have problems with Lando-T if I lose Keldeo and Lando-T
 
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If I were you I would switched Pinsir's ability with either Moxie or Hyper Cutter and swap the filler EV points in defense. Reason why is because Pinsir / Mega-Pinsir is weak to Stealth Rocks So you can come in take odd HP damage from entry hazards
Wtf! XD I did not notice this detail it for granted, he's right, invest the 4 evs hp Pinsir, in defense or in SPDEF. He's right! XD
 
Ok. You really don't know what you're talking about. I've been using a team with Mandibuzz on it for months and have never had a problem with Pinsir. The team received tons of tour play and I actually peaked #1 with it along with around 7 other alts in the top 15 on PO. I kind of know what i'm talking about!!

First of all you are rating a team and no one cares about what u play or what u do in your free time.

Superpower is simply a wasted slot on landoge for hitting megados, and is so gen 5. We don't know if aegislash will be banned, i don't see the sense of judging a team by him. Mandibuzz or latios ar similar for typing and recovery, defog, etc.

Tell me who is so stupid to set up with pinsir if mandibuzz is around. Zapdos handle better skarmory than mandibuzz.

For the rate:

Matey (Keldeo) @ Choice Specs
Ability: Justified
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Scald
- Hydro Pump
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Secret Sword

The HP flying isn't only for megasaur.

This guy
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is really popular right now, and he walls u. Give free switches means pokemon that goes to sleep or get a foul play on latias.
 
First of all you are rating a team and no one cares about what u play or what u do in your free time.

Superpower is simply a wasted slot on landoge for hitting megados, and is so gen 5. We don't know if aegislash will be banned, i don't see the sense of judging a team by him. Mandibuzz or latios ar similar for typing and recovery, defog, etc.

Tell me who is so stupid to set up with pinsir if mandibuzz is around. Zapdos handle better skarmory than mandibuzz.

For the rate:

Matey (Keldeo) @ Choice Specs
Ability: Justified
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Scald
- Hydro Pump
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Secret Sword

The HP flying isn't only for megasaur.

This guy
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is really popular right now, and he walls u. Give free switches means pokemon that goes to sleep or get a foul play on latias.
Thanks for the suggestion, Gonna try it out since that mushroom has been annoying me
 
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