National Dex Ubers Physical Utility Giratina-Origin [QC 2/2] [GP 1/1]

Status
Not open for further replies.
Sami

Sami

formerly S0A0M0I0
is a Metagame Resource Contributor
[SET]
name: Physical Utility
move 1: Poltergeist
move 2: Dragon Tail
move 3: Defog / Rest
move 4: Shadow Sneak / Stone Edge / Will-O-Wisp / Toxic
item: Griseous Core
ability: Levitate
nature: Adamant / Impish
evs: 248 HP / 228 Atk / 20 Def / 12 Spe or 248 HP / 56 Atk / 192 Def / 12 Spe
tera type: Poison / Steel / Rock

[SET COMMENTS]
  • Levitate, paired with a unique typing, solid bulk, and access to various status moves, allows Giratina-O to be a reliable Defogger while also having a good offensive presence, discouraging opposing Pokemon from setting entry hazards. Giratina-O also serves as one of the most reliable switch-ins to Primal Groudon, as well as Primal Kyogre, Mega Salamence, Swords Dance Arceus formes, and Ho-Oh.
  • Poltergeist is Giratina-O's main source of damage, allowing it to do solid damage against non-resistant targets.
  • Dragon Tail can phaze foes, ensuring setup threats like Swords Dance Arceus can't boost for free, although this doesn't work against Fairy-types like Zacian-C and Arceus-Fairy.
  • Defog allows Giratina-O to remove entry hazards for teammates such as Mega Salamence; with its solid defensive profile combined with good status moves and even decent offenses, it is difficult to stop Giratina-O from freely removing hazards, making it an effective Defogger. Alternatively, Rest lets Giratina-O stay healthy throughout a game and removes any status conditions it may have, such as burn and Toxic, if there is already a reliable Defogger on the team.
  • The fourth moveslot is very flexible for Giratina-O. Will-O-Wisp and Toxic are useful status moves, both crippling opposing Pokemon. Will-O-Wisp targets physical attackers like Swords Dance Arceus formes, Zacian-C, and offensive Necrozma-DM, while Toxic limits the effectiveness of Primal Groudon, Ho-Oh, and Zygarde by reducing their longevity. Shadow Sneak can revenge kill frailer Pokemon like Mega Mewtwo Y and Deoxys-A, while Stone Edge 2HKOes both Yveltal, which can OHKO Giratina-O with Dark Pulse, and Ho-Oh, which can inflict status such as Toxic onto Giratina-O.
  • 20 Defense EVs allow Giratina-O to avoid a 2HKO from Mega Mewtwo Y's Psystrike, while 228 Attack EVs ensure that Shadow Sneak is a 2HKO on Mega Mewtwo Y and Ultra Necrozma after taking Stealth Rock damage as Necrozma-DM and that Poltergeist can 3HKO defensive Primal Groudon after Stealth Rock damage. 12 Speed EVs are necessary to always outspeed Calyrex-I and Kingambit. Note that an EV spread of 248 HP / 56 Atk / 192 Def / 12 Spe with an Impish nature can be used if not running Shadow Sneak to avoid the 2HKO from Mega Salamence's Double Edge while still 2HKOing defensive Necrozma-DM with Poltergeist.
  • Tera Poison on Giratina-O provides it with a Fairy resistance against Pokemon like Arceus-Fairy and Zacian-C while also providing it with a Toxic immunity, helping its longevity. Tera Poison is the best option to use with the second EV spread, as it allows Giratina-O to act as a Zacian-C check by letting it avoid the 2HKO from +1 Tera Electric Wild Charge after Stealth Rock damage, allowing Giratina-O to freely phaze it with Dragon Tail or burn it with Will-O-Wisp. Tera Steel has a similar role while also providing resistances to Dragon and Ice for foes such as Eternatus and Calyrex-I, at the cost of giving Giratina-O a weakness to Fire-type attacks such as Primal Groudon's Heat Crash and Ho-Oh's Sacred Fire and Fighting-type attacks such as Zacian-C's Close Combat and Marshadow's Low Kick. Tera Rock keeps the Fire resistance while giving Stone Edge variants a boost, allowing Giratina-O to OHKO Ho-Oh from full health and have a chance to OHKO specially offensive Yveltal. It also allows Giratina-O to handle Flying-types like Mega Salamence and Rayquaza better.
  • Health management is crucial, as it determines Giratina-O's effectiveness at checking certain threats, especially since it has no reliable recovery outside of Rest, so avoiding unnecessary damage, whether it be stray super effective damage like Primal Kyogre's Ice Beam or status conditions like Toxic from Ho-Oh, is key.
  • Giratina-O's typing leaves it weak against common Fairy-, Dark-, Ghost- and Dragon-types, such as Arceus-Fairy, Yveltal, Marshadow, and Eternatus; as such, Necrozma-DM for Fairy- and Dragon-types, Yveltal for Dark- and Ghost-types, and Arceus-Fairy for Dark- and Dragon-types are all good partners.
  • Support Arceus formes like Arceus-Fairy and Pokemon such as Zygarde and Ho-Oh can help Giratina-O more comfortably wall physical threats like Primal Groudon in case it becomes too weakened to effectively serve as a check.
[SET CREDITS]
Set(s) by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/bobsican.434487/
Written by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/s0a0m0i0.604820/
Quality checked by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/bobsican.434487/
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/zrp200.327515/
Grammar checked by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/zinnias.569291/
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/solarbeam.470115/
 
Last edited:
Good job, apply the stuff below and this can pass as QC 1/2

Add Remove Comment
[SET]
name: Physical Utility
move 1: Poltergeist
move 2: Dragon Tail
move 3: Defog / Rest
move 4: Will-O-Wisp / Toxic / Shadow Sneak / Stone Edge Shadow Sneak / Stone Edge / Will-O-Wisp / Toxic The default spread demands Shadow Sneak, so it's placed first so it's the default move to import from the dex
item: Griseous Core
ability: Levitate
nature: Adamant / Impish Required for the alternate spread
evs: 248 HP / 228 Atk / 20 Def / 12 Spe or 248 HP / 56 Atk / 192 Def / 12 Spe Was discussed in the server for sets without Shadow Sneak
tera type: Poison / Steel / Rock

[SET COMMENTS]
  • Levitate paired with a unique typing and solid bulk allows Giratina-O to be a reliable Defog user in the tier, while also having a good offensive presence when paired with its access to various status moves, discouraging opposing Pokemon from setting entry hazards. It also serves as one of the most reliable switch-ins to Primal Groudon, as well as Primal Kyogre, Mega Salamence, Swords Dance Arceus formes and Ho-Oh.
  • Poltergeist is Giratina-O's main source of damage, which is also boosted by Griseous Core, allowing it to do solid damage against non-resisted targets. Dragon Tail, also boosted by Griseous Core, can phase opponents out, ensuring Giratina-O is not passive against boosting threats. Defog is what allows Giratina-O to reliably remove hazards. Dragon Tail should be its own bullet point
Add another bullet point regarding how Giratina-O is a good Defogger, then mention Rest for teams that don't need it
  • The fourth moveslot is very flexible for Giratina-O. Will-O-Wisp and Toxic are useful status moves, both being able to cripple opposing Pokemon. For example, Will-O-Wisp targets physical attackers like Swords Dance Arceus formes, Zacian-C, add comma and offensive Necrozma-DM, while Toxic limits Primal Groudon, Ho-Oh and Zygarde by reducing their longevity. Shadow Sneak is able to revenge kill frailer Pokemon like Mega Mewtwo Y and Deoxys-A, while Stone Edge is able to hit Yveltal and Ho-Oh super-effectively remove hyphen.
  • 20 Defense allows Giratina-O to avoid a 2HKO from Mega Mewtwo Y's Psystrike, while the 228 Attack ensures a 2HKO on Ultra Necrozma after taking Stealth Rock damage as Necrozma-DM, and Mega Mewtwo Y with Shadow Sneak after Stealth Rock damage You don't need hazards to 2HKO MMY with that spread. 12 Speed is necessary to always outspeed Calyrex-Ice and Kingambit. Note that an EV spread of 248 HP / 56 Atk / 192 Def / 12 Spe with an Impish nature can be used if not running Shadow Sneak, to avoid the 2HKO from Mega Salamence's Double Edge while 2HKOing defensive Necrozma-DM with Poltergeist.
  • Tera Poison on Giratina-O provides it with a Fairy-type resistance against Pokemon like Arceus-Fairy and Xerneas, while also providing with a Toxic immunity, helping its longevity. Tera Steel has a similar role, while also providing more resistances, at the cost of being weak to Fire-type moves such as Primal Groudon's Heat Crash or Ho-Oh's Sacred Fire. Tera Rock keeps the Fire-type resistance, while giving Stone Edge variants a boost. It also allows Giratina-O to handle Flying-types like Mega Salamence and Rayquaza better. Add a mention over Tera Poison with the second spread being a good Zacian-C answer even if it Terastallizes, namely avoiding a 2HKO from Tera Electric Wild Charge after SR
  • Health management, similar to Primal Groudon, Usually it's not to be demanded for the reader to read other analyses to get this one is crucial as it determines Giratina-O's effectiveness at checking certain threats, especially since it has no reliable recovery, so avoiding unnecessary damage, whether it be stray super-effective remove hyphen damage like Primal Kyogre's Ice Beam, or status conditions like Toxic from who?, is key.
  • Giratina-O's typing leaves it with weaknesses to common types like Fairy-, Dark-, Ghost- and Dragon-types, such as Xerneas, Yveltal, Marshadow and Eternatus. As such, Necrozma-DM for Fairy- and Dragon-types, Yveltal for Dark- and Ghost-types and Arceus-Fairy for Dark- and Dragon-types are all good partners to help mitigate Giratina-O's exploitable weaknesses.
  • Support Arceus formes like Arceus-Fairy, plus Pokemon such as Zygarde and Ho-Oh can all help Giratina-O more comfortably wall physical threats like Primal Groudon in case Giratina-O becomes too weak to effectively serve as a check.
[SET CREDITS]
Written by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/s0a0m0i0.604820/
Quality checked by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/bobsican.434487/
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/user3.103/
Grammar checked by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/user4.104/
 
Last edited:
I'd like to see this one more time before stamping.

add
remove/rework
comment
[SET]
name: Physical Utility
move 1: Poltergeist
move 2: Dragon Tail
move 3: Defog / Rest
move 4: Shadow Sneak / Stone Edge / Will-O-Wisp / Toxic / Shadow Sneak / Stone Edge
item: Griseous Core
ability: Levitate
nature: Adamant / Impish
evs: 248 HP / 228 Atk / 20 Def / 12 Spe or 248 HP / 56 Atk / 192 Def / 12 Spe
tera type: Poison / Steel / Rock

[SET COMMENTS]
  • Levitate paired with a unique typing and solid bulk allows Giratina-O to be a reliable Defog user in the tier, remove comma while also having a good offensive presence when paired with its access to various status moves, discouraging opposing Pokemon from setting entry hazards. It also serves as one of the most reliable switch-ins to Primal Groudon, as well as Primal Kyogre, Mega Salamence, Swords Dance Arceus formes and Ho-Oh.
  • Poltergeist is Giratina-O's main source of damage, which is also boosted by Griseous Core, (1)this is the first time you've mentioned Griseous Core (2) this is extraneous information; if you want to mention Griseous Core mention it in the first paragraph allowing it to do solid damage against non-resisted targets.
  • Dragon Tail, also boosted by Griseous Core, this is extraneous info, especially on such a weak move can phase phaze opponents out, ensuring Giratina-O is not passive against boosting threats. (1) give examples of notable threats that this denies -- e.g. extreme killer arceus should be mentioned since it's immune to Poltergeist (2) do mention that it fails against fairy types like Zacian-C
  • Defog is what allows Giratina-O to remove hazards for teammates such as Mega Salamence,; replace comma with semicolon with its solid defensive profile combined with good status moves, and even solid offenses, it is difficult to stop Giratina-O from freely removing hazards, making it an effective Defog user. On the other hand, Rest lets Giratina-O stay healthy throughout a game and remove any status conditions it may have, such as burns or Toxic, if there is already a reliable Defog user on the team. Rest causes Giratina-O to serve a different role, it's not just a straight sidegrade, it relies on having an alternate defogger. Feel free to reword that if you desire.
  • The fourth moveslot is very flexible for Giratina-O. Will-O-Wisp and Toxic are useful status moves, both being able to cripple opposing Pokemon. For example, Will-O-Wisp targets physical attackers like Swords Dance Arceus formes, Zacian-C, and offensive Necrozma-DM, while Toxic limits Primal Groudon, Ho-Oh and Zygarde by reducing their longevity. Shadow Sneak is able to revenge kill frailer Pokemon like Mega Mewtwo Y and Deoxys-A, while Stone Edge is able to hit Yveltal and Ho-Oh super effectively. (1)state that Stone Edge 2HKOes these targets, rather than just saying 'super effectively' (2) mention why this is important, considering that this is the only move on the set not boosted by Griseous Core, and what these 2HKOes allow Giratina-O to do
  • 20 Defense EVs allows Giratina-O to avoid a 2HKO from Mega Mewtwo Y's Psystrike, while the 228 Attack ensures 228 Attack EVs ensure that Shadow Sneak is a 2HKO on Ultra Necrozma after taking Stealth Rock damage as Necrozma-DM, remove comma and that Shadow Sneak 2HKOes Mega Mewtwo Y Mega Mewtwo Y with Shadow Sneak Please give at least one poltergeist calc. For example, Poltergeist with this level of investment will 2HKO a poisoned Ho-Oh and usually 3HKO defensive pdon (the other spread is a 4hko). 12 Speed is EVs are necessary to always outspeed Calyrex-I and Kingambit. Note that an EV spread of 248 HP / 56 Atk / 192 Def / 12 Spe with an Impish nature can be used if not running Shadow Sneak, remove comma to avoid the 2HKO from Mega Salamence's Double Edge while still 2HKOing defensive Necrozma-DM with Poltergeist.
  • Tera Poison on Giratina-O provides it with a Fairy-type resistance against Pokemon like Arceus-Fairy and Xerneas, while also providing with a Toxic immunity, helping its longevity. Tera Poison is the best option to use with the second EV spread, as it allows Giratina-O to act as a Zacian-C check, remove comma by avoiding the 2HKO from +1 Tera Electric Wild Charge after Stealth Rock damage, allowing Giratina-O to freely Dragon Tail or set Will-O-Wisp against it. Tera Steel has a similar role, while also providing more resistances mention additional things that it checks --- calyrex-i, perhaps?, at the cost of being weak to Fire-type moves such as Primal Groudon's Heat Crash or Ho-Oh's Sacred Fire mention being weak to Close Combat from Zacian-C. Tera Rock keeps the Fire-type resistance, while giving Stone Edge variants a boost Mention OHKOes that this provides. It also allows Giratina-O to handle Flying-types like Mega Salamence and Rayquaza better.
  • Health management is crucial as it determines Giratina-O's effectiveness at checking certain threats, especially since it has no reliable recovery outside of Rest, so avoiding unnecessary damage, whether it be stray super effective damage like Primal Kyogre's Ice Beam, remove comma or status conditions like Toxic from Ho-Oh, is key.
  • Giratina-O's typing leaves it with weaknesses to common types like Fairy-, Dark-, Ghost- and Dragon-types, such as Xerneas, Yveltal, Marshadow and Eternatus. As such, Necrozma-DM for Fairy- and Dragon-types, Yveltal for Dark- and Ghost-types and Arceus-Fairy for Dark- and Dragon-types are all good partners to help mitigate Giratina-O's exploitable weaknesses.
  • Support Arceus formes like Arceus-Fairy, plus Pokemon such as Zygarde and Ho-Oh, add comma can all help Giratina-O more comfortably wall physical threats like Primal Groudon in case Giratina-O becomes too weak to effectively serve as a check.
[SET CREDITS]
Written by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/s0a0m0i0.604820/
Quality checked by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/bobsican.434487/
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/zrp200.327515/
Grammar checked by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/user4.104/
 
You forgot the "Set(s) by" part, as formatted above.

Also, as this has been given a pass by Zrp, after this please update to QC 2/2 then add the Copyediting lable, then ping in this thread GP Team.
 
AMGP Add remove comment
[SET]
name: Physical Utility
move 1: Poltergeist
move 2: Dragon Tail
move 3: Defog / Rest
move 4: Shadow Sneak / Stone Edge / Will-O-Wisp / Toxic
item: Griseous Core
ability: Levitate
nature: Adamant / Impish
evs: 248 HP / 228 Atk / 20 Def / 12 Spe or 248 HP / 56 Atk / 192 Def / 12 Spe (one spread is used here, and the second spread is already in the analysis)
tera type: Poison / Steel / Rock

[SET COMMENTS]
  • Levitate, (AC) paired with a unique typing and solid bulk, (AC) allows Giratina-O to be a reliable Defogger user in the tier while also having a good offensive presence when paired with its access to various status moves, discouraging opposing Pokemon from setting entry hazards. It also serves as one of the most reliable switch-ins to Primal Groudon, as well as Primal Kyogre, Mega Salamence, Swords Dance Arceus formes, (AC) and Ho-Oh.
  • Poltergeist is Giratina-O's main source of damage, (AC) allowing it to do solid damage against non-resisted non-resistant targets.
  • Dragon Tail can phaze opponents out foes, ensuring setup boosting (redundant with "setup") threats like Swords Dance Arceus can't boost for free, although this doesn't work with Fairy-types like Zacian-C or and Arceus-Fairy.
  • Defog is what allows Giratina-O to remove entry hazards for teammates such as Mega Salamence; with its solid defensive profile combined with good status moves (RC) and even solid decent (synonym to avoid repetition) offenses, it is difficult to stop Giratina-O from freely removing hazards, making it an effective Defogger. user. On the other hand, Alternatively, Rest lets Giratina-O stay healthy throughout a game and remove any status conditions it may have, such as burns or and Toxic, if there is already a reliable Defogger user on the team.
  • The fourth moveslot is very flexible for Giratina-O. Will-O-Wisp and Toxic are useful status moves, both being able to cripple crippling opposing Pokemon. For example, Will-O-Wisp targets physical attackers like Swords Dance Arceus formes, Zacian-C, and offensive Necrozma-DM, while Toxic limits Primal Groudon, Ho-Oh, (AC) and Zygarde by reducing their longevity. Shadow Sneak is able to can revenge kill frailer Pokemon like Mega Mewtwo Y and Deoxys-A, while Stone Edge is able to 2HKOes both Yveltal, who which can OHKO Giratina-O with Dark Pulse, and Ho-Oh, who which can inflict status such as Toxic onto you Giratina-O.
  • 20 Defense EVs allows Giratina-O to avoid a 2HKO from Mega Mewtwo Y's Psystrike, while 228 Attack EVs ensure that Shadow Sneak is a 2HKO on Ultra Necrozma after taking Stealth Rock damage as Necrozma-DM and that Shadow Sneak a 2HKOes on Mega Mewtwo Y (RC) while also ensuring Poltergeist can 3HKO defensive Primal Groudon after Stealth Rock damage. 12 Speed EVs are necessary to always outspeed Calyrex-I and Kingambit. Note that an EV spread of 248 HP / 56 Atk / 192 Def / 12 Spe with an Impish nature can be used if not running Shadow Sneak to avoid the 2HKO from Mega Salamence's Double Edge while still 2HKOing defensive Necrozma-DM with Poltergeist.
  • Tera Poison on Giratina-O provides it with a Fairy-type resistance against Pokemon like Arceus-Fairy and Xerneas (RC) while also providing it with a Toxic immunity, helping its longevity. Tera Poison is the best option to use with the second EV spread, as it allows Giratina-O to act as a Zacian-C check by avoiding the 2HKO from +1 Tera Electric Wild Charge after Stealth Rock damage, allowing Giratina-O to freely phaze it with Dragon Tail or set burn it with Will-O-Wisp. against it. Tera Steel has a similar role (RC) while also providing resistances to Dragon- and Ice-types, such as Eternatus and Calyrex-I, at the cost of being weak gaining a weakness to Fire-type moves attacks such as Primal Groudon's Heat Crash or and Ho-Oh's Sacred Fire (RC) alongside and Fighting-type moves attacks such as Zacian-C's Close Combat or and Marshadow's Low Kick. Tera Rock keeps the Fire-type resistance (RC) while giving Stone Edge variants a boost, allowing Giratina-O to OHKO Ho-Oh from full health and have a chance to OHKO specially offensive Yveltal. It also allows Giratina-O to handle Flying-types like Mega Salamence and Rayquaza better.
  • Health management is crucial, (AC) as it determines Giratina-O's effectiveness at checking certain threats, especially since it has no reliable recovery outside of Rest, so avoiding unnecessary damage, whether it be stray super effective damage like Primal Kyogre's Ice Beam or status conditions like Toxic from Ho-Oh, is key.
  • Giratina-O's typing leaves it with weaknesses to common types like Fairy-, Dark-, Ghost- and Dragon-types, such as Xerneas, Yveltal, Marshadow, (AC) and Eternatus; (semi-colon > period) As as such, Necrozma-DM for Fairy- and Dragon-types, Yveltal for Dark- and Ghost-types, (AC) and Arceus-Fairy for Dark- and Dragon-types are all good partners. (AP) to help mitigate Giratina-O's exploitable weaknesses.
  • Support Arceus formes like Arceus-Fairy, plus and Pokemon such as Zygarde and Ho-Oh (RC) can all help Giratina-O more comfortably wall physical threats like Primal Groudon in case Giratina-O becomes too weakened to effectively serve as a check.
[SET CREDITS]
Set(s) by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/bobsican.434487/
Written by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/s0a0m0i0.604820/
Quality checked by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/bobsican.434487/
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/zrp200.327515/
Grammar checked by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/user4.104/
 
Also, add back the other spread onto the analysis's set, it's not "other options" material, and is simply talked about in the analysis as there's no better way to refer to it, plus that way upon publication it's simpler to pick one spread and nature combination over the other, rather than having to manually type out the second spread.
 
1/1, GP Team done
Crediting Zinnias too.
blue = add
red = remove
(orange) = comment

[SET]
name: Physical Utility
move 1: Poltergeist
move 2: Dragon Tail
move 3: Defog / Rest
move 4: Shadow Sneak / Stone Edge / Will-O-Wisp / Toxic
item: Griseous Core
ability: Levitate
nature: Adamant / Impish
evs: 248 HP / 228 Atk / 20 Def / 12 Spe or 248 HP / 56 Atk / 192 Def / 12 Spe
tera type: Poison / Steel / Rock

[SET COMMENTS]
  • Levitate, paired with a unique typing, (AC) and solid bulk, and access to various status moves, allows Giratina-O to be a reliable Defogger while also having a good offensive presence when paired with its access to various status moves, discouraging opposing Pokemon from setting entry hazards. It Giratina-O also serves as one of the most reliable switch-ins to Primal Groudon, as well as Primal Kyogre, Mega Salamence, Swords Dance Arceus formes, and Ho-Oh.
  • Poltergeist is Giratina-O's main source of damage, allowing it to do solid damage against non-resistant targets.
  • Dragon Tail can phaze foes, ensuring setup threats like Swords Dance Arceus can't boost for free, although this doesn't work with against Fairy-types like Zacian-C and Arceus-Fairy.
  • Defog allows Giratina-O to remove entry hazards for teammates such as Mega Salamence; with its solid defensive profile combined with good status moves and even decent offenses, it is difficult to stop Giratina-O from freely removing hazards, making it an effective Defogger. Alternatively, Rest lets Giratina-O stay healthy throughout a game and remove removes any status conditions it may have, such as burns burn and Toxic, if there is already a reliable Defogger on the team.
  • The fourth moveslot is very flexible for Giratina-O. Will-O-Wisp and Toxic are useful status moves, both crippling opposing Pokemon. For example, (not really an example, it's an explanation) Will-O-Wisp targets physical attackers like Swords Dance Arceus formes, Zacian-C, and offensive Necrozma-DM, while Toxic limits the effectiveness of Primal Groudon, Ho-Oh, and Zygarde by reducing their longevity. Shadow Sneak can revenge kill frailer Pokemon like Mega Mewtwo Y and Deoxys-A, while Stone Edge 2HKOes both Yveltal, which can OHKO Giratina-O with Dark Pulse, and Ho-Oh, which can inflict status such as Toxic onto Giratina-O.
  • 20 Defense EVs allow Giratina-O to avoid a 2HKO from Mega Mewtwo Y's Psystrike, while 228 Attack EVs ensure that Shadow Sneak is a 2HKO on Mega Mewtwo Y (want to apply the 2HKO to both, but awk if MMY is after UN because of the specification) and Ultra Necrozma after taking Stealth Rock damage as Necrozma-DM and a 2HKO on Mega Mewtwo Y while also ensuring and that Poltergeist can 3HKO defensive Primal Groudon after Stealth Rock damage. 12 Speed EVs are necessary to always outspeed Calyrex-I and Kingambit. Note that an EV spread of 248 HP / 56 Atk / 192 Def / 12 Spe with an Impish nature can be used if not running Shadow Sneak to avoid the 2HKO from Mega Salamence's Double Edge while still 2HKOing defensive Necrozma-DM with Poltergeist.
  • Tera Poison on Giratina-O provides it with a Fairy-type resistance against Pokemon like Arceus-Fairy and Zacian-C while also providing it with a Toxic immunity, helping its longevity. Tera Poison is the best option to use with the second EV spread, as it allows Giratina-O to act as a Zacian-C check by avoiding letting it avoid the 2HKO from +1 Tera Electric Wild Charge after Stealth Rock damage, allowing Giratina-O to freely phaze it with Dragon Tail or burn it with Will-O-Wisp. Tera Steel has a similar role while also providing resistances to Dragon- and Ice-types Dragon and Ice for foes (RC) such as Eternatus and Calyrex-I, at the cost of gaining giving Giratina-O a weakness to Fire-type attacks such as Primal Groudon's Heat Crash and Ho-Oh's Sacred Fire and Fighting-type attacks such as Zacian-C's Close Combat and Marshadow's Low Kick. Tera Rock keeps the Fire-type resistance while giving Stone Edge variants a boost, allowing Giratina-O to OHKO Ho-Oh from full health and have a chance to OHKO specially offensive Yveltal. It also allows Giratina-O to handle Flying-types like Mega Salamence and Rayquaza better.
  • Health management is crucial, as it determines Giratina-O's effectiveness at checking certain threats, especially since it has no reliable recovery outside of Rest, so avoiding unnecessary damage, whether it be stray super effective damage like Primal Kyogre's Ice Beam or status conditions like Toxic from Ho-Oh, is key.
  • Giratina-O's typing leaves it with weaknesses to weak against common Fairy-, Dark-, Ghost- and Dragon-types, such as Arceus-Fairy, Yveltal, Marshadow, and Eternatus; as such, Necrozma-DM for Fairy- and Dragon-types, Yveltal for Dark- and Ghost-types, and Arceus-Fairy for Dark- and Dragon-types are all good partners.
  • Support Arceus formes like Arceus-Fairy and Pokemon such as Zygarde and Ho-Oh can help Giratina-O more comfortably wall physical threats like Primal Groudon in case Giratina-O it becomes too weakened to effectively serve as a check.
[SET CREDITS]
Set(s) by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/bobsican.434487/
Written by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/s0a0m0i0.604820/
Quality checked by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/bobsican.434487/
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/zrp200.327515/
Grammar checked by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/zinnias.569291/
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/solarbeam.470115/
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top