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Gen 8 [Peaked #1 GXE 91.7%] Amoonguss Stall

Hit #1 in Gen 6 OU ladder with Mega Gardevoir?


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Amoonguss Stall

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PokePaste

Table of contents:
  • Introduction
  • Proof of peak
  • Team Description
  • Threats
  • Replays
  • Conclusion

Introduction
Hi everyone! A little background, in the last two weeks I have been destroyed by everyone in the SV Ladder and OLT quals, so I wanted to feel myself like a strong player and went laddering in Gen 8. At first i was playing Victini Offense team and hit #6, but after a couple of bad loses, I decided to change the team and create this.

Proof of peak
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Team Description

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Chansey (F) @ Eviolite
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Stealth Rock
- Toxic
- Soft-Boiled
- Seismic Toss

This is the most common Chansey build in SS OU with rocks and toxic.
I chose Chansey over Blissey because Chancey is a more versatile pokemon, capable of walling Scarf Lele Psyshock and many physical threats including.
Save your eviolite and remove possible hazards on the field and you will be immortal.
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Corviknight @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Impish Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Body Press
- Iron Defense
- Defog
- Roost

Corviknight is your only hazards cleaner and also the main physical check with IronPress build.
Always try to go Corv and PP Stalling your opponent with Pressure if possible, leftovers are very helpful in this.

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Clefable @ Leftovers
Ability: Magic Guard
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SpD
Sassy Nature
- Knock Off
- Moonblast
- Stealth Rock
- Soft-Boiled

In most battles, Clefable will be your main way to gain an advantage.
Thanks to Magic Guard, Clefable can beat Ferrothorn 1v1, therefore, you dont need to spend a lot of resources for this.
It is very reliable Knock Off user, which is also the second rocks in the team.
Clefable role is Knock Off/Status Moves absorber, but she can also act as Dragapult check.

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Toxapex @ Shed Shell
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Careful Nature
- Toxic Spikes
- Scald
- Recover
- Knock Off

Not a single stall team without this star.
First of all, I want to say that you need a Shed Shell for a comfortable MU against Heatran, which is a serious threat to any stall team with Magma Storm/Taunt build.
And so, if your opponent has Heatran, you are not allowed to get Knocked. Toxapex is your is your only chance to beat Heatran, use some scalds, switch to Chansey and now you chilling.
In SS Ou, many teams are vulnerable to T-Spikes, so Im using this.
Another Knock Off user and a good SPD wall for a few scary mons like Trick Blacephalon.

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Quagsire @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Unaware
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Impish Nature
- Scald
- Toxic
- Earthquake
- Recover

Since Toxapex does not have Haze in this team, you need a Unaware Quagsire to beat SD/DD users like Garchomp, Weavile, Dragonite and etc
Always remember that this Pokemon has no resistance to status moves and if your opponent has a Bulky Garchomp/Melmetal do not risk getting poisoned.

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Amoonguss @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Giga Drain
- Sludge Bomb
- Clear Smog
- Foul Play

The last choice was Amoonguss, as the second regenerator in the team, another physical check with Clear Smog and Foul Play, and some cheap damage from Rocky Helmet.
This is the best answer to mons like Urshifu, Tapu Koko and etc.

Threats

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Suicune
Due to its features, this pokemon is very annoying, but it is not invincible.
You just need to PP Stalling with Chansey/Pex, if Suicune does not have Protect you can spam Seismic Toss on Chansey.

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Tapu Lele
This is probably the worst matchup for my team, due to Future Sight mons weakness.
If it is Scarf, you can wall any move with Chansey. If Specs try to poison it and wall with Corv/Chansey switch-ins.

Screens Mew variant for good MU vs Lele - Screens Mew Stall

Replays
Some replays:
https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/battle-gen8ou-2177893399-025jq5hdouc8w3lh3z984qc9jhi7qrtpw - vs stall
https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/battle-gen8ou-2177905143-wwwa8x9658s2uxv7pj6msjtfldb4qm5pw - vs balance

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/battle-gen8ou-2177890862-3ihltwxgosvdkj4va85mhc7jcy16omrpw - vs HO
https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/battle-gen8ou-2177884337-adf93j3sdeycsoqhwzhgio6r5nc15q1pw - vs sand team
https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/battle-gen8ou-2177915153-oxwac149ej3pqb77hdih2ooql72gycbpw - just funny team

Conclusion
Thanks for reading! Finally, I want to show you one more team, which I mentioned in the beginning: Victini team
 
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Amoonguss Stall

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PokePaste

Table of contents:
  • Introduction
  • Proof of peak
  • Team Description
  • Threats
  • Replays
  • Conclusion

Introduction
Hi everyone! A little background, in the last two weeks I have been destroyed by everyone in the SV Ladder and OLT quals, so I wanted to feel myself like a strong player and went laddering in Gen 8. At first i was playing Victini Offense team and hit #6, but after a couple of bad loses, I decided to change the team and create this.

Proof of peak

Team Description

chansey.gif

Chansey (F) @ Eviolite
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Stealth Rock
- Toxic
- Soft-Boiled
- Seismic Toss

This is the most common Chansey build in SS OU with rocks and toxic.
I chose Chansey over Blissey because Chancey is a more versatile pokemon, capable of walling Scarf Lele Psyshock and many physical threats including.
Save your eviolite and remove possible hazards on the field and you will be immortal.
corviknight.gif

Corviknight @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Impish Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Body Press
- Iron Defense
- Defog
- Roost

Corviknight is your only hazards cleaner and also the main physical check with IronPress build.
Always try to go Corv and PP Stalling your opponent with Pressure if possible, leftovers are very helpful in this.

clefable.gif


Clefable @ Leftovers
Ability: Magic Guard
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SpD
Sassy Nature
- Knock Off
- Moonblast
- Stealth Rock
- Soft-Boiled

In most battles, Clefable will be your main way to gain an advantage.
Thanks to Magic Guard, Clefable can beat Ferrothorn 1v1, therefore, you dont need to spend a lot of resources for this.
It is very reliable Knock Off user, which is also the second rocks in the team.
Clefable role is Knock Off/Status Moves absorber, but she can also act as Dragapult check.

toxapex.gif


Toxapex @ Shed Shell
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Careful Nature
- Toxic Spikes
- Scald
- Recover
- Knock Off

Not a single stall team without this star.
First of all, I want to say that you need a Shed Shell for a comfortable MU against Heatran, which is a serious threat to any stall team with Magma Storm/Taunt build.
And so, if your opponent has Heatran, you are not allowed to get Knocked. Toxapex is your is your only chance to beat Heatran, use some scalds, switch to Chansey and now you chilling.
In SS Ou, many teams are vulnerable to T-Spikes, so Im using this.
Another Knock Off user and a good SPD wall for a few scary mons like Trick Blacephalon.

quagsire.gif


Quagsire @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Unaware
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Impish Nature
- Scald
- Toxic
- Earthquake
- Recover

Since Toxapex does not have Haze in this team, you need a Unaware Quagsire to beat SD/DD users like Garchomp, Weavile, Dragonite and etc
Always remember that this Pokemon has no resistance to status moves and if your opponent has a Bulky Garchomp/Melmetal do not risk getting poisoned.

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Amoonguss @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Giga Drain
- Sludge Bomb
- Clear Smog
- Foul Play

The last choice was Amoonguss, as the second regenerator in the team, another physical check with Clear Smog and Foul Play, and some cheap damage from Rocky Helmet.
This is the best answer to mons like Urshifu, Tapu Koko and etc.

Threats

suicune.gif

Suicune
Due to its features, this pokemon is very annoying, but it is not invincible.
You just need to PP Stalling with Chansey/Pex, if Suicune does not have Protect you can spam Seismic Toss on Chansey.

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Tapu Lele
This is probably the worst matchup for my team, due to Future Sight mons weakness.
If it is Scarf, you can wall any move with Chansey. If Specs try to poison it and wall with Corv/Chansey switch-ins.

Replays
Some replays:
https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/battle-gen8ou-2177893399-025jq5hdouc8w3lh3z984qc9jhi7qrtpw - vs stall
https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/battle-gen8ou-2177905143-wwwa8x9658s2uxv7pj6msjtfldb4qm5pw - vs balance

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/battle-gen8ou-2177890862-3ihltwxgosvdkj4va85mhc7jcy16omrpw - vs HO
https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/battle-gen8ou-2177884337-adf93j3sdeycsoqhwzhgio6r5nc15q1pw - vs sand team
https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/battle-gen8ou-2177915153-oxwac149ej3pqb77hdih2ooql72gycbpw - just funny team

Conclusion
Thanks for reading! Finally, I want to show you one more team, which I mentioned in the beginning: Victini team
tapu Lele generally packs psyshock, this team kinda crumbles if they get some reads right.
oh and don't forget about calm mind sets too
 
tapu Lele generally packs psyshock, this team kinda crumbles if they get some reads right.
oh and don't forget about calm mind sets too
Have you read the explanations?
252+ SpA Tapu Lele Psyshock vs. 4 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey in Psychic Terrain: 247-292 (38.4 - 45.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
Cm sets does nothing, just toxic lol
Specs and Fsight sets are problem, but its stall team (or not?) specs Lele is one of the best stallbreakers in gen8
If u cant win Lele, change Amoonguus to Mandibuzz, ok
 
Have you read the explanations?
252+ SpA Tapu Lele Psyshock vs. 4 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey in Psychic Terrain: 247-292 (38.4 - 45.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
Cm sets does nothing, just toxic lol
Specs and Fsight sets are problem, but its stall team (or not?) specs Lele is one of the best stallbreakers in gen8
If u cant win Lele, change Amoonguus to Mandibuzz, ok
cm sets could just find setup vs the team on something not called Chansey, then click psyshock on the next turn. Ive seen some run thunderbolt too, so corv might be cooked.
 
cm sets could just find setup vs the team on something not called Chansey, then click psyshock on the next turn. Ive seen some run thunderbolt too, so corv might be cooked.
lets won this team with scarf or your broken 3% usage cm set Lele and confirm your words. i can hold #1 with this team (done in 10 minutes without the help of others) at any time even if I play every game against Lele. I wrote that this is the worst possible MU (everyone knows lele-stall mu) but you wanted to look smart for some reason
 
lets won this team with scarf or your broken 3% usage cm set Lele and confirm your words. i can hold #1 with this team (done in 10 minutes without the help of others) at any time even if I play every game against Lele. I wrote that this is the worst possible MU (everyone knows lele-stall mu) but you wanted to look smart for some reason
Nah, you just forgot to mention the matchup with cm.


Also, since its a real set with an analysis, its worthy of mention.


That's all I have rn to say.
 
Thanks for the replay!

now I am just confused on why is cm a set on smogdex now, metagame shifts I guess.

and thanks for the clarification.
Because it's a relevant set that has seen use in tournament play despite its low usage (yes choiced sets are very splashable, but it doesn't mean that other sets are bad). I would say that there is room for counterplay against CM Lele with this team (Chansey can put it on a timer, Corv can stall it out of Focus Blasts with Pressure + Roost, etc), but there is almost no room for error against Future Sight + Urshifu-R.

Unstoppable1 try experimenting with Light Screen Toxapex - you shut down the Slows that way while the move gives you a potentially powerful tool against Tapu Leles on autopilot.
 
Because it's a relevant set that has seen use in tournament play despite its low usage (yes choiced sets are very splashable, but it doesn't mean that other sets are bad). I would say that there is room for counterplay against CM Lele with this team (Chansey can put it on a timer, Corv can stall it out of Focus Blasts with Pressure + Roost, etc), but there is almost no room for error against Future Sight + Urshifu-R.

Unstoppable1 try experimenting with Light Screen Toxapex - you shut down the Slows that way while the move gives you a potentially powerful tool against Tapu Leles on autopilot.
Thanks for the offer. F-Sight Lele + Urshifu (ngl, this is the most popular core) were the only serious problem I faced. As I mentioned, this is the worst possible MU, but this team has an answer to all the others.
 
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