My Team

[PeeepPeepBow]

Hi! This is a NU Team, which I made once and which I used a lot. I got to 1800 ratings on Pokemon Showdown, but I´m stuck there right now. So if anyone has any suggestions for this team feel free to write them. ;)
(Sry if i misspelled something or my grammar sucks. This is not my mothers tongue)

Gigalith @ Custap Berry
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 HP / 4 SDef
Adamant Nature
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Stealth Rock
- Rock Blast


Standard suicide lead in the most cases. Just Stealth Rock and Explosion. Rock Blast takes care of Subs and leads like Charizard to avoid SR. And Earthquake can deal a good amount to other SR leads. The situations were you shouldn't explode with your Gigalith are opposing Haunters or Kadabras. These two are pretty fast and can carry the Signal Beam, while my team has a huge Bug weakness. If one of these is on the opposing team, its better to save Gigalith for them.

Luxray @ Leftovers
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 252 Def / 252 HP / 4 SDef
Relaxed Nature
IVs: 0 Spd
- Light Screen
- Toxic
- Volt Switch
- Quick Attack

Yes. Physically defensive Luxray. And it is surprisingly bulky. A CBed Golurk EQ has only a 25% to kill it. So the game plan is to get the Intimidate, take a hit. Then look at the situation and do what is more useful. If a wall is your opponent or you predict a switch in, toxic it. If its a special attacker and its necessary Light Screen. Quick Attack is for low life pokemon of course. Otherwise get the !in the most cases slower, because of 0 speed IV! Volt Switch and get the initiative.

Leafeon @ Leftovers
Trait: Leaf Guard
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 4 HP
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Substitute
- Baton Pass
- Leaf Blade

It was basically a standard Leafeon, but I thought 2 damaging moves with not that great typing are not what I want on this team. So I decided to go with Baton Pass over Return/X-Scissor. This Leafeon wants to come in on a intimidated pokemon set up a sub, as many SD as necessary and sweep or pass. But because of its natural bulk, it can also sometimes come in without the Intimidate and do the same thing.

Floatzel @ Life Orb
Trait: Water Veil
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 Atk / 4 HP
Jolly Nature
- Aqua Jet
- Brick Break
- Ice Punch
- Crunch

Floatzel is a fast physical sweeper and the thing to pass into. Its the main check to not scarfed Kadabra/Haunter, because of Crunch. Brick Break is for defensive pokemon like Bastidon and to break screens of course. Ice Punch is for more coverage to destroy everything when having the passed SDs. And Aqua Jet is for the priority of course.

Exeggutor @ Sitrus Berry
Trait: Harvest
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SAtk / 252 SDef
Calm Nature
- Leech Seed
- Substitute
- Psychic
- Giga Drain

This should be my defensive wall. Nice bulk. Good trait. But after having some battles. Terrible typing. Many special attacker in NU cary Ice, Bug, Dark or Ghost Moves. So this became a Sub Seeder, which I want to replace with a good special wall.

Jynx (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Oblivious
EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
Timid Nature
- Ice Beam
- Lovely Kiss
- Nasty Plot
- Substitute

Jynx is such a beast. Just kiss something. Sub. Nasty Plot. Sweep. Sounds simple and it is. Jynx just destroys any opponent, that allow her to set up.

I know this team looks awful, because of its typings, but it works out in NU, because the types this team is weak to are not that often seen.


Some matches:
http://pokemonshowdown.com/replay/nu-17565277
http://pokemonshowdown.com/replay/nu-20929505

 

[Dell]

Hi there, and welcome to Smogon.

The general conception that I see from this team is that quite a few of the movesets listed are perceived as really unorthodox, which in turn creates an awkward synergy behind this team. This is the kind of shortcoming that doesn't necessarily do you any favors in terms of how effective this team would function against a competent player, and can leave you open against various threats that this team would otherwise efficiently deal with.

I know this team looks awful, because of its typings, but it works out in NU, because the types this team is weak to are not that often seen.

Teams that don't have the best typing synergy doesn't always show an indication of how good they are overall. In fact, that can oftentimes be a shortcoming in someone's mindset of teambuilding if they happen to become so strapped around trying to cover every single typing. One thing to especially be taking consideration of is that NU's primary play-style at the moment is any forum of offense, which typically focuses on maintaining offensive pressure on the opponent through the use of powerful moves to weaken the opposing team with the ultimate goal of allowing one of the Pokemon on an offensive team to sweep.

Back into the team itself: the way the win condition seems here suits to an offensive nature, but some of that concept seems to be backfired by the general lack of ability to stop momentum, especially from the likes of Electric-types with Volt Switch due to a lack of a Ground-type Pokemon. Rotom-S and Rotom-F in particular are huge threats, as it is can constantly pick off your team with Volt Switch and can hit several of the remainder of the party with Air Slash and Blizzard/Hidden Power Ice for super effective damage, respectively. Zebstrika is on a similar boat, who can also devastate your Electric-type resists with Overheat. Luxray won't particularly help this cause because its easily worn down and can't do much damage in return due to the lack of investment. With this, I would like to see you give a try with Golem over Gigalith. Both shares some of the same qualities, but Golem's Ground resist allows you to break the momentum of the Electric-types and can counter Rotom-S pretty solidly thanks to its Rock typing. While Golem can also serve as an Explosion user for the team, I don't particularly recommend that role since it provides a check towards a lot of the Pokemon that can revenge kill most of this team.

As for Luxray's placing, it feel that it really doesn't provide you much insurance against Pokemon that you are currently threatened by, especially from the likes of Piloswine. Most of the Pokemon that Luxray can cover effectively are eclipsed by Golem if you choose to use it. Piloswine can take advantage of a lot of this team as well as nothing likes switching it to both Earthquake and its Ice moves, and only a few Pokemon can properly respond to it, being the ones that can't switch in. Replacing Luxray with Eelektross would be an enticing idea, as Levitate and the ability to hit Piloswine with Giga Drain allows for a full stop against it. It sports a better offensive presence for this team overall, provides momentum likewise with a slow Volt Switch, and the coverage options can net you some important kills on the likes of Tangela or Regice with Flamethrower, both of which are able to beat Leafeon.

Regarding Exeggutor, I agree with you in the fact that its typing is just off-putting for this team and really just adds towards the compounded weaknesses that already exists for this team. The only comfort zone that it adds for this team is the notable Fighting-resist, but even so it's very prone to U-turn from the most popular one right now; Primeape. I think the better go-to resist for the team would be Garbodor which provides a nice check to essentially any Fighting-type, gets rid of Toxic Spikes (which completely eliminates any of your chances of setting a win condition for this team), can stack up Spikes of its own (which further extends the win condition due to this team's tendency of forcing a lot of switches), and can wall and cripple Tangela easier, making your Baton Passing job much easier.

In additional matters, Leafeon should be running a Jolly nature and Floatzel should replace Brick Break with Waterfall. Leafeon benches the base 95 Speed, which is simply to valuable to pass up in this metagame as you can speed tie with other 95's like Jynx or Primeape while outpacing +Speed Sawk, Kangaskhan, Braviary, and the like. This is especially important so you don't get forced out as nothing likes taking really strong hits. The slight loss of power doesn't matter much as you are commonly looking to boost and ultimately Batton Pass out anyways. Floatzel doesn't provide any additional coverage of Brick Break that STAB Waterfall doesn't hit hard enough already, and it should go without saying that its best STAB move and thus should be used on any set.

Hope these changes work well for you.

Summary of suggested changes

Leafeon: Jolly > Adamant nature
Floatzel: Waterfall > Brick Break

• Golem over Gigalith

Golem @ Leftovers| Sturdy
Adamant nature | 200 HP / 252 Atk / 56 Spe (enough to outspeed Shell Smash Torkoal before a boost)
Stealth Rock / Earthquake / Rock Blast / Sucker Punch or Toxic

• Eelektross over Luxray

Eelektross @ Leftovers, Choice Specs, or Expert Belt| Levitate
Modest nature | 132 HP / 252 SpA / 124 Spe (outspeeds minimum speed Alomomola)
Volt Switch / Giga Drain / Thunderbolt / Flamethrower

• Garbodor over Exeggutor

Garbodor @ Rocky Helmet or Black Sludge| Aftermath
Impish nature | 252 HP / 240 Def / 16 Spe (outspeeds max speed Golem)
Spikes / Toxic / Pain Split / Rock Blast or Gunk Shot

 

[PeeepPeepBow]

i tried these pokemon out and all were better than my choices, so first of all thank you Agent Dell. But I still have a problem. I first of all wanted the exeggutor to be a special wall, so physicaly garbodor cant fit its place. Should I run a special defensive set on garbodor or is there anything better on the special side. If someone has any suggetions please look if the pokemon do well against bug and fighting, because these types can cause me a lot of trouble. The changes so far are:

Leafeon: Jolly > Adamant nature

Floatzel: Waterfall > Brick Break

Golem over Gigalith
Golem @ Leftovers| Sturdy
Adamant nature | 200 HP / 252 Atk / 56 Spe (enough to outspeed Shell Smash Torkoal before a boost)
Stealth Rock / Earthquake / Rock Blast / Sucker Punch

Eelektross over Luxray
Eelektross @ Leftovers, Choice Specs, or Expert Belt| Levitate
Modest nature | 132 HP / 252 SpA / 124 Spe (outspeeds minimum speed Alomomola)
Volt Switch / Giga Drain / Thunderbolt / Flamethrower

EDIT:
I tried out special defensive Garbodor and i was surprised that it did good. Not very good, but still way better than Exeggutor. But it gives my team a bit of a psychic weakness. Kadabras can deal a ton of damage to all my pokemon and nothing wants to take a hit. So Im thinking since my Intimidate-Volt Switch is gone and Leafeon cant set up that good anymore, I should replace it with a physical dark type. I decided to go wit Skuntank and even if I only had a few matches, it did very well. So since many changes were made I will post the actual team right now:

Eelektross @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 132 HP / 124 Spd / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Spd
- Volt Switch
- Giga Drain
- Flamethrower
- Acid Spray

Skuntank @ Black Sludge
Trait: Aftermath
EVs: 252 Atk / 220 SDef / 36 Spd
Adamant Nature
- Crunch
- Pursuit
- Sucker Punch
- Taunt

Floatzel @ Life Orb
Trait: Water Veil
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 Atk / 4 HP
Jolly Nature
- Aqua Jet
- Waterfall
- Ice Punch
- Crunch

Garbodor @ Black Sludge
Trait: Aftermath
EVs: 252 HP / 240 SDef / 16 Spd
Careful Nature
- Gunk Shot
- Toxic
- Pain Split
- Rock Blast

Jynx (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Oblivious
EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
Timid Nature
- Ice Beam
- Lovely Kiss
- Nasty Plot
- Substitute

Golem @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 HP / 4 SDef
Adamant Nature
- Earthquake
- Sucker Punch
- Stealth Rock
- Rock Blast

If anyone still has some suggestions, fell free to leave them.

 

[Shuckleking87]

Yeah I would scratch the specially defensive garbodor set, I don't think that is going to help much. Your team looks pretty good otherwise, as your pokes work well with each other. The biggest problem I see is a weakness to Sawk, Primeape and most of all, gurdurr (which you cannot really touch as mach punch will do hefty damage or kill jynx before an attack). I would suggest a faster poke, such as Scolipede, in this spot, as you would appreciate either/or a fast sweeper or spiker; however, scolipede really cannot do much to gurdurr, especially stone edge varients. Misdreavus or Golurk could fit over Garbodor. Misdreavus is probably your preferred choice as it does better agaisnt these pokes, though a Choice banded golurk is gonna hurt. Perish Song on the misdreavus would be a good idea to ensure set up pokes cannot just stay in and sweep. Also, with Golurk, you are going to stack up a grass weakness, especially for calm mind serperior, though ice punch from floatzel should do heavy damage. I can give you a better rate later if needed, but I would go with misdreavus over garbodor

 

[PeeepPeepBow]

I tried out Misdreavus with the following set. And it has done its job.

Misdreavus @ Eviolite
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 252 SDef / 252 HP / 4 Def
Calm Nature
- Will-O-Wisp
- Pain Split
- Thunderbolt
- Shadow Ball

This set is pretty good in taking special hits and blocking scarfed CCer .Will-O is there to burn a physical switch in, so Misdreavus can also take its physical hits. Pain Split is for getting health back, because Misdreavus has no other recovery. T-Bolt and Shadow Ball are my two attacks and its pretty good to have an attack to actually hit every poke. So I decided to go with TBolt over Perish Song to do something against Normal types, which could just attck till I switch. Sepirior and Gurdurr can be a problem, but i can deal with them with Jynx and (depending on SR or no SR) another pokemon.

EDIT: Just had a pretty decent battle with this team. Even if Eelektross got kinda unlucky and Golem didnt shine neither.
http://pokemonshowdown.com/replay/nu-35834333