Keep the Crab alive ! (peaked around 2400)

Hello guys ! Now that pokebank is out (more or less), I decided at last to make a team for this metagame. I played around a little bit with Crawdaunt, and figured it had an amazing wallbreaking power, as well as being very fun to play with. So I tried to build a team around him and came up with this :


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Crawdaunt @ Life Orb
Ability: Adaptability
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Crabhammer
- Aqua Jet
- Knock Off

The star of the team. It usually KOes a pokemon every time it comes into play, thanks to that amazing ability. Building a team around that guy is not without its drawbacks, though. Being the only powerful wallbreaker in the team, I need to keep him alive until it defeats the opposing team's defensive threats. I don't usually use Swords Dance but it can come in handy against stall, and it doesn't have any better option anyway.


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Aegislash @ Weakness Policy
Ability: Stance Change
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SAtk
Quiet Nature
- Shadow Sneak
- Sacred Sword
- King's Shield
- Shadow Ball

Aegislash's typing is a blessing. It can usually come in when Fighting or Bug attacks threaten Crawdaunt, and can proceed to weakening the opposing team with Shadow Ball. Even if it dies in the process, it usually deals enough damage to put one or two pokemon in my 4 priority users' KO range. It also helps me dealing with sweepers such as Cloyster and Lucario. Weakness Policy is situational but gives him some wallbreaking power that can be needed in those situations when Crawdaunt is KO.



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Ampharos @ Ampharosite
Ability: Static
EVs: 236 HP / 252 SAtk / 20 Spd
Modest Nature
- Volt Switch
- Focus Blast
- Dragon Pulse
- Discharge

Here's my Mega and a very useful pivot for my team. Ampharos' main job is to use its bulk and slow Volt Switch to bring in Crawdaunt safely and start wrecking things. Ampharos usually attracts the likes of Garchomp and Excadrill, though, so I often need to predict the opponent switching to them, as Ampharos has the coverage options to OHKO both. Ampharos is also my answer to Rotom-W and Talonflame, but having no recovery options really means I have to bring him in carefully.



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Mamoswine @ Life Orb
Ability: Thick Fat
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spd
Naive Nature (over Jolly)
IVs: 29 HP
- Ice Shard
- Freeze Dry (over Icicle Crash)
- Earthquake
- Icicle Spear

..alright, I know I should swap Icicle Crash/Spear for Superpower xD I'm just such a Substitute paranoid, and at the same time, I hate it when Icicle Spear ends up doing only 2 hits, so I'm running both at the moment. (my team really hates Rotom-W when Ampharos is weakened, though, so I'll try running Superpower ... or maybe Stealth Rock ?)
Anyway, Mamoswine's job in this team is pretty obvious, it revenge kills dragons/deals with the likes of Landorus-T, Thundurus, Gliscor, Tyranitar and Heatran when I don't want to risk bringing Crawdaunt in.
edit : Freeze Dry takes care of Rotom-W, as my team has a hard time dealing with him when Ampharos is weakened, especially if he spams Volt Switch.



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Talonflame @ Choice Band
Ability: Gale Wings
EVs: 50 HP / 252 Atk / 208 Spd
Adamant Nature
- Flare Blitz
- U-turn
- Brave Bird
- Tailwind

Talonflame is my cleaner and my last resort revenge killer. Brave Bird wrecks things when Tyranitar/Heatran/Rotom-W have been taken care of by Crawdaunt/Mamoswine/Ampharos. In some scenarios when Crawdaunt is still healthy in late game and the opponents packs a Tyranitar or something, I can sometimes attempy a Tailwind Crawdaunt sweep.



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Crobat @ Black Sludge
Ability: Infiltrator
EVs: 120 HP / 136 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature
- Brave Bird
- Taunt
- U-turn
- Defog

Crobat brings a lot of utility to the team, thanks to Defog and its blazing speed. I really needed a Defog user as Talonflame needs all the health it can have to withstand Brave Bird's recoil when it's cleaning in late game. Taunt is for Smeargle/Sashloom/Will-o-wisp users, and it causes a lot of switches which give me opportunities to bring Crawdaunt in, using U-turn.


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Main threats to the team :

Gyarados : It can set up in the face of a lot of my pokemon (especially its Mega form) and my only way of dealing with it is to sacrifice something and deal enough damage for Talonflame to come and revenge kill

Rotom-W : If the game lasts for too long, the opponent can weaken Amphy little by little and then Rotom-W completely walls me (Crawdaunt only outspeeds it if it's running 0 speed EVs =/)

Excadrill : Crawdaunt can kill it but each of my team members really fears either Earthquake or Rock slide from that guy :s

Stall : Defensive cores such as Mega-Venusaur + Heatran wall me really easily (Crawdaunt can hurt but I need to sacrifice him against Saur to stand a chance). Add a Rotom-W and this team is going to have a very bad time =/


So yeah, I think that the team can be improved. As you can see, it's a team that likes fast paced battles, because my checks to common threats (Ampharos/Aegislash) get weakened really fast if it goes on for too long. I might need a second wallbreaker, to put more pressure on the opponent, and take some pressure off Crawdaunt, because keeping him alive at all times while trying to bring him in to break the opponent's defenses sometimes feels like being on a mine field. But I'm a little lost because I don't know what pokemon I can afford to remove from the team without losing precious resistances/utility/synergy. (I thought of Latios>Crobat, the loss of U-turn, Taunt, and the loss in speed hurt, though)

Anyway, thank you very much for reading my RMT :) Feel free to criticize/comment/suggest, and sorry if my English is weird at times ^^
 
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Try running Freeze Dry over Icicle Crash. It deals massive damage to Rotom and Vaporeon on the switch. Hope that helps!
 
Wow, Freeze-Dry on Mamoswine seems like a really good idea, I might be able to use him as a lure, making it much easier for Talonflame to break through later in the game ^^ I'll try it out :) (swapping the nature for Hasty then)
Thanks a lot !

Edit : Tried out Freeze-Dry, it's awesome, it works exactly as intended :D
 
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You should try out Landorus-Therian, it can wall Excadrill pretty well.Another thing is that you should try Scarf Excadrill over Talonflame/Crobat. And the last thing i wanna suggest, get a Water Absorber, ex.: Vaporeon, Cradily.
Hope i Helped,
Ciao!
 
Hello Banzaii^^, thanks for the insight, but honestly, I'm not too fond of replacing something with Lando-T only to deal with one threat. What are the benefits of Scarf Excadrill over Talonflame/Crobat ? I might be wrong but I feel that Talonflame is a much more solid cleaner, especially now that Mamoswine can lure in and weaken/finish Rotom-W.

Ampharos takes care of water moves quite well, and most Water Absorbers don't put enough offensive pressure anyway =/
 
Because Crawduant is slow and lacks bulk, do you think paralysis support would help your team such as Thundurus-I, Klefki, or Deoxys-D? Perhaps for replacing it with Crobat.

Thundurus-I:
Thunderwave, Thunderbolt/Volt Switch, Taunt, U-turn (if not using Volt Switch)

Klefki can give you some Dual Screens support but lacks Taunt or pivoting

Deoxys can give you Stealth Rock, to break Multiscale and for other Talonflame, and has Taunt too. No pivoting

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How much do you really value Mamoswine's unsurpassed ability to kill Dragons? Or its priority Ice Shard. Well, if you really do hate Rotom-W, just run Excadrill.

In the best possible case... a physically defensive Rotom-W with Max investment in Special attack and a positive Special nature (which would obvious be at the expense of its attack and/or speed):

252+ SpA Life Orb Mamoswine Freeze Dry vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Rotom-W: 205-244 (67.4 - 80.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

No investment on a Physical Rotom-W

0 SpA Life Orb Mamoswine Freeze Dry vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Rotom-W: 140-166 (46 - 54.6%) -- 8.2% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

on a Special Rotom-W:

252+ SpA Life Orb Mamoswine Freeze Dry vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Rotom-W: 151-179 (49.6 - 58.8%) -- 65.2% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

With no investment:

0 SpA Life Orb Mamoswine Freeze Dry vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Rotom-W: 104-125 (34.2 - 41.1%) -- 39.4% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

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Here are the spreads for Rotom-W

| Spreads:
|Calm:252/0/0/4/252/0 21.073%
|Modest:232/0/0/56/0/220 8.913%
|Bold:252/0/252/4/0/0 8.357%
|Timid:0/0/0/252/4/252 7.373%
| Modest:252/0/0/252/4/0 3.964%
| Calm:248/0/0/28/232/0 3.616% |
| Other 46.704%


It does have surprise value though. But it seems really niche, but Gengar once did run Focus Punch to do about ~50% to Blissey (but the opportunity costs were lower then since Ghost was a Physical type, no Focus Blast available, and the 100-110 tier wasn't so crowded for the ~180 Ev Attack investment).

It also hits Gastrodon and Quagsire the hardest (and they won't expect it) so that is something additional.

But my point is that it seems easier to use Excadrill.
 
Thanks a lot for the insight. Paralysis support seems sweet, I'll try that Thundurus over Crobat ^^ Losing Defog hurts, though =/
I'll do some playtesting with Defog Latios or Latias instead of Crobat as well. They lack the pivoting, but can bring some more wallbreaking power, and Latias can even support the team with Dual Screens or Wish. Does it seem like a good idea ?

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The big advantage Freeze-Dry Mamoswine has over Excadrill to solve my Rotom problem is that it will actually lure him in. People are more likely to switch Rotom in against a Mamo than against an Excadrill, and an uninvested Freeze-Dry on the switch often means a 2HKO if they have taken prior damage (such as a Crobat U-turn earlier in the match). Even if it's not the case (no prior damage or specially defensive Rotom), they'll usually be weakened enough to be in Talonflame's 2HKO range, which means they've lost their Talonflame counter, unless they resort to Pain Split/Rest (which can both be taken advantage of). And it's not only for Rotom:

4 SpA Life Orb Mamoswine Freeze Dry vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Gyarados: 302-359 (90.9 - 108.1%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO

And as you said, it OHKOes Quagsire and nearly OHKOes Gastrodon.

Besides, Mamoswine's Ice stabs really help me out against the likes of Landorus and Gliscor, and that priority Ice shard is a lifesaver against Dragons that can take a Brave Bird from Talonflame ^^
 
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