National Dex Gen 9 National Dex Ubers

[KartanaStrike!]

Hello, I enjoy National Dex Ubers, and I was wondering if someone could tell me if I should change anything. I am mainly looking for a HO team, it would help if you could help me in the right direction, thanks.

Zygarde-10% @ Focus Sash
Ability: Power Construct
Tera Type: Normal
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Thousand Arrows
- Outrage
- Extreme Speed

At first, I thought of a sweeper Lead, as Zygarde-10% will turn into Zygarde-Complete if you survive an attack, with a focus sash that makes it way more likely to happen. Once Zygarde-Complete is achieved, you will be way bulkier, and Tera normal will not only eliminate his 4x ice weakness, it will also make ExtremeSpeed a STAB move. the 252 attack Ev's give him a lot of attack along with his Adamant Nature, while 252 Speed Allows him to have a lot of speed, especially after the Dragon Dance Boost.​

Xerneas @ Power Herb
Ability: Fairy Aura
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Geomancy
- Moonblast
- Psyshock
- Hidden Power [Fire]

The second pokemon I wanted on my team was Xerneas. Why? Because it has Fairy Aura, which boosts moonblast greatly. I believe Geomancy+Power Herb is a great choice because it makes you specially stronger AND specially bulkier if you use it first, making it so you can survive against some other special attackers. My other two moves are Psyshock and Hidden Power Fire. The reason why is because Psyshock hits chansey/blissey in cases where psychic won't. Finally, Hidden Power Fire is used on pokemon like Ferrothorn and other mons that are weak to fire.
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Yveltal @ Black Glasses
Ability: Dark Aura
Tera Type: Dark
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Mild Nature
- Dark Pulse
- Oblivion Wing
- Defog
- Sucker Punch

The third Pokemon is Yveltal. I chose the item Black Glasses over Life orb to boost sucker punch without Yveltal taking damage. The reason why I chose a Mild Nature and not a Hasty/Naive Nature is that if you are slower than opposing Yveltals, then you can regain your health with oblivion Wing. I chose Tera Type dark to eliminate his electric, ice, and rock weaknesses. Defog is for removing rocks, which helps the next pokemon if defog is successful.
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Marshadow @ Focus Sash
Ability: Technician
Tera Type: Fighting
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Spectral Thief
- Shadow Sneak
- Close Combat
- Ice Punch

The fourth pokemon is Marshadow. The reason why it has a focus sash is that it increases its chances of survival, along with stealing the opponent's stat boosts with Spectral Thief. Plus it is used for revenge killing too, especially for ghost and psychic types thanks to shadow sneak. Close Combat is a strong stab attack that appreciates the boosts from Spectral thief(if it gets any, of course). Finally, Ice Punch is for pokemon that are weak to ice, such as Garchomp.​

Groudon-Primal @ Red Orb
Ability: Desolate Land
Tera Type: Flying
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Rock Polish
- Precipice Blades
- Fire Punch
- Stone Edge

The fifth pokemon on my team is Groudon-Primal. Its ability, Desolate Land, makes it so water attacks get evaporated in the harsh sunlight that it creates, which means that it eliminates its 4x weakness to water, as long as desolate land is up and active. It even doesn't get replaced by normal weather, so that's a bonus too! I chose Tera Type Flying to eliminate his ground weakness and turn it into an immunity. The Ev's give it as much power and speed as it possibly can have, which makes it really fast with rock polish. Precipice Blades is a STAB move for Other Groudons and pokemon that are weak to it, Fire Punch is stab and gets boosted in Desolate Land, and finally, stone edge is for Flying-Type pokemon, and works especially well on pokemon like Moltres, Charizard, and Ho-Oh, since they are weak to it.
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Magearna @ Assault Vest
Ability: Soul-Heart
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 252 HP / 32 Def / 224 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Volt Switch
- Fleur Cannon
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Flash Cannon

The final pokemon that I chose is Magerana, because this thing is very Specially bulky, especially with an assault vest. This thing can even use a powerful move, Fleur Cannon. I chose 32 defense along with a Bold Nature so that its defense is almost as much as its Special Defense. Along with all that bulk, it can use very powerful moves such as volt switch against pokemon that are weak to electric and gains momentum, fleur cannon for doing a lot of damage to pokemon like Yveltal, Hidden Power Fire is for pokemon such as Ferrothorn, and flash cannon for fairy types.

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Thanks for reading!
-KartanaStrike!

 

[tech7t]

This team is generally good with Zygarde just sweeping and making people forefeit :)

 

[Kid2011]

Really cool team! I’m rather new to showdown but I definitely know all these pokemon are top tier ubers. Maybe some hazards would benefit this team, but it can work hazardless too ofc.

 

[Kid2011]

Also, if someone could tell me, how do you crop images, move images, and import sprites (if you can)?

 

[Thatmandan01]

just a very good team if you ask me, if there’s a weather team send in groudon, if you see a hazard setter send in yveltal, when there is a poison type on the field send in magearna, what I’m trying to say here is that this team the best national dex Ubers team I’ve EVER seen, super good synergy, I expect great teams from you

 

[Sami90]

Isnt Xerneas banned?

 

[Rothcore]

Xerneas is banned, unfortunately. That being said, this team looks promising.
Lead Zygarde-10%
Lead Zygarde is a novel concept. However, 3 attacks is suboptimal because Espeed and Tarrows hit everything relevant for neutral. Substitute would be an adequate replacement for Outrage. Is there a specific reason you chose 10% over 50%? Zygarde-10%'s frailty means a is required, while Zygarde-50%'s improved bulk would allow it the freedom of an item such as Leftovers. Replacement.

Zygarde @ Leftovers
Ability: Power Construct
Tera Type: Normal
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Substitute
- Extreme Speed
- Thousand Arrows

Xerneas.
On March 4, 2024, the NDUbers Council decided to suspect test Xerneas, as its offensive presence and sheer bulk terrorized the metagame. The vote achieved a 66% supermajority, and Xerneas was banned.
Yveltal.
Unfortunately, Mild Yveltal misses a key speed threshold in the tier, that being 306 Speed. Primal Groudon and Kyogre are some of the most used threats in the tier, which means Yveltal should outspeed them to properly check P-Groudon. A better set, while still underspeeding other Yveltal is as follows.

Yveltal @ Black Glasses
Ability: Dark Aura
Tera Type: Dark
EVs: 8 Atk / 252 SpA / 248 Spe
Hasty Nature
- Oblivion Wing
- Dark Pulse
- Defog
- Sucker Punch
Marshadow.
Unfortunately, Focus Sash Marshadow is unviable, being outclassed by other fast physical breakers. It doesn't have very good damage output without a or , and if you do want to reverse sweep is a frankly better option.
Marshadow @ Choice Band
Ability: Technician
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
- Poltergeist
- Stone Edge
- Low Kick
- Shadow Sneak

Primal Groudon.
Genuinely not a bad set. I would keep in mind that Primal Pokemon cannot Terastallize. However, the only move I would swap out is Fire Punch, for Heat Crash. is the 3rd heaviest Pokemon, ergo Heat Crash rarely dips beyond 80BP.
Groudon-Primal @ Red Orb
Ability: Drought
Tera Type: Ground
EVs: 140 HP / 252 Atk / 116 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Rock Polish
- Heat Crash
- Precipice Blades
- Stone Edge

Magearna.
Magearna is very specially bulky, but it has a suboptimal stat spread with weak moves.It's also not very viable and is usually seen on trick room structures. A better special pivot would be , and a better specially defensive Pokemon would be .

Kyogre @ Blue Orb
Ability: Drizzle
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 240 HP / 76 Def / 176 SpA / 16 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Calm Mind
- Origin Pulse
- Ice Beam
- Thunder

Here is the paste of the fixed team, with Dusk Mane Necrozma replacing Xerneas. NDM has utility such as stealth rock and knock off.
https://pokepast.es/f463b2de2231aa43

 

[bumboclaat]

Exactly why a two year old thread for a bad team was revived in beyond me. OP hasn't even logged into Smogon since March 2023 so it is unlikely they will see this. Even if they did I'm not entirely sure what the point is. Consequently, this is mainly going to be a response to the 'rate' as there are a lot of issues with it.

Lead Zygarde-10%
Lead Zygarde is a novel concept. However, 3 attacks is suboptimal because Espeed and Tarrows hit everything relevant for neutral. Substitute would be an adequate replacement for Outrage. Is there a specific reason you chose 10% over 50%? Zygarde-10%'s frailty means a is required, while Zygarde-50%'s improved bulk would allow it the freedom of an item such as Leftovers. Replacement.

Zygarde @ Leftovers
Ability: Power Construct
Tera Type: Normal
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Substitute
- Extreme Speed
- Thousand Arrows

The standard DD Zygarde set is:

Zygarde @ Leftovers
Ability: Power Construct
EVs: 12 HP / 216 Atk / 48 SpD / 232 Spe
Tera Type: Ground
Adamant Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Thousand Arrows
- Substitute
- Dragon Tail

Last Year Bobsian and I wrote this article which if less politically correct would be called noobtraps in NDUbers and Tera Normal Extreme Speed Zygarde was in it for a reason. Zygarde has no use for Extreme Speed, even with the power boost from Tera Normal. Instead it uses Tera Ground as the power lets it become an actual offensive threat after a single boost. Zygarde does not care about Marshadow stealing its boosts because it OHKOes it anyways with +1 Tera Ground Thousand Arrows. Zygarde does not outspeed the entire metagame at +1, but hitting 426/396 Speed after a single boost is more than enough as it outspeeds Eternatus. Furthermore, Extreme Speed does little to help against faster Pokemon such as Zacian-C which resists it and Deoxys-A which usually runs Tera Ghost anyways. Dragon Tail is used to prevent Zygarde from being phased by Ho-Oh and opposing Tera Water Coil Dragon Tail Zygarde. This plays a pretty big role in what makes Dragon Dance Zygarde controversial as it eliminates an easy and common method of defensive counterplay. The standard Dragon Dance Zygarde is a threat which every good team needs at least a game plan for or it will sweep, but this is because of Tera Ground letting Zygarde break through Pokemon which could otherwise handle it such as Arceus formes and defensive Yveltal.

Yveltal.
Unfortunately, Mild Yveltal misses a key speed threshold in the tier, that being 306 Speed. Primal Groudon and Kyogre are some of the most used threats in the tier, which means Yveltal should outspeed them to properly check P-Groudon. A better set, while still underspeeding other Yveltal is as follows.

Yveltal @ Black Glasses
Ability: Dark Aura
Tera Type: Dark
EVs: 8 Atk / 252 SpA / 248 Spe
Hasty Nature
- Oblivion Wing
- Dark Pulse
- Defog
- Sucker Punch

This is sort of true. Yveltal usually runs a Speed boosting nature, but Primal Groudon and Kyogre are rarely a reason why. Neither commonly hit 306 Speed outside of Sticky Web teams. At the time this was written 306 Speed was an important benchmark with most support Arceus formes investing a few EVs to outrun max speed Primals. If you're looking to run an offensive Yveltal it really needs Life Orb as opposed to Black Glasses as it makes Oblivion Wing actually strong and the extra healing and damage is well worth the Life Orb chip. The standard LO Yveltal set is:

Yveltal @ Life Orb
Ability: Dark Aura
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Tera Type: Dark / Fire / Flying
Naive Nature
- Dark Pulse
- Oblivion Wing
- Taunt
- Sucker Punch / Knock Off

Taunt is essential in making Yveltal such a feared threat and should never be dropped on offensive sets. Defog Yveltal is viable, but mostly on Choice Scarf sets where it is a key tool that makes Yveltal a nuisance for HO. This is because it is the only Defogger which easily removes Sticky Web and its fast Foul Play is used to revenge Zacian-C and Extreme Killer Arceus if Tera Steel or Ghost is used. Defog can be used on defensive sets, but is incredibly hard to fit as it means dropping U-turn or Taunt. Lastly, in the current metagame, Yveltal's Speed is most useful for outspeeding other mid-speed wallbreakers such as Lunala and Rayquaza. This also has the benefit of outspeeding and beating support Arceus formes which still run 307 Speed. However, those have largely faded out of the metagame due to how oppressive Yveltal itself is and most support Arceus formes invest enough Speed to get the jump on Yveltal.

Marshadow.
Unfortunately, Focus Sash Marshadow is unviable, being outclassed by other fast physical breakers. It doesn't have very good damage output without a or , and if you do want to reverse sweep is a frankly better option.
Marshadow @ Choice Band
Ability: Technician
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
- Poltergeist
- Stone Edge
- Low Kick
- Shadow Sneak

Rock Tomb is usually used as Technician boosts its power enough to be comprable to Stone Edge while having the added utility of the speed drop and much higher accuracy. Even then, Marshadow is rarely seen without its STABs as they hit more than hard enough and Spectral Thief often plays a large role in checking Calm Mind Arceus formes.

Primal Groudon.
Genuinely not a bad set. I would keep in mind that Primal Pokemon cannot Terastallize. However, the only move I would swap out is Fire Punch, for Heat Crash. is the 3rd heaviest Pokemon, ergo Heat Crash rarely dips beyond 80BP.
Groudon-Primal @ Red Orb
Ability: Drought
Tera Type: Ground
EVs: 140 HP / 252 Atk / 116 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Rock Polish
- Heat Crash
- Precipice Blades
- Stone Edge

This set is fine, but doesn't really fit well on the team you've suggested. Double Dance Primal Groudon is pretty much limited to hyper offense while it would appear the team you've made attempts to be more of a bulky offense. If these teams are looking for Stealth Rock usually they will opt for SD Utility Primal Groudon or in rare cases, the offensive support set.

Magearna.
Magearna is very specially bulky, but it has a suboptimal stat spread with weak moves.It's also not very viable and is usually seen on trick room structures. A better special pivot would be , and a better specially defensive Pokemon would be .

Kyogre @ Blue Orb
Ability: Drizzle
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 240 HP / 76 Def / 176 SpA / 16 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Calm Mind
- Origin Pulse
- Ice Beam
- Thunder

I'm not really sure how Giratina (is this meant to be Giratina-O) is a special pivot. At the time this team was made Magearna was a viable Pokemon, even if this set wasn't. It had excellent role compression due to its unique ability to counter both Yveltal and Xerneas in a single slot, but was found on fat balance teams rather than ones like this. If you're going to give a non standard spread you need to explain what it is for. I'm assuming the Speed is to outspeed paralyzed Zacian-C. Given that you've included Heavy-Duty Boots base Kyogre in your Pokepaste and this is the SV Ubers spread I'm assuming it is copy/pasted from there. There is a very bulky similar spread in NDUbers that Primal Kyogre sometimes uses on Sticky Web teams to survive +1 Zacian-C Wild Charge, but this isn't it. If you're giving advice on a team it would be best to at least give advice from the correct meta.

Here is the paste of the fixed team, with Dusk Mane Necrozma replacing Xerneas. NDM has utility such as stealth rock and knock off.
https://pokepast.es/f463b2de2231aa43

Defensive Necrozma-DM is considered nearly unviable in NDUbers and has been for a while. The strategy dex is currently somewhat outdated, but this set would be more appropriate for a bulky balance team and even then there are significantly better options. On bulky offense Necrozma-DM is usually Dragon Dance Solg Z, but Stealth Rock Ultra Necrozma is also quite good despite being uncommon.

I'm not going to make a paste because this post is 2 years old and for a bygone metagame. Its great that you've clearly put some time and effort into trying to help this person fix their team, but I'd recommend becoming a bit more familiar with the metagame first.

 

[Sami90]

Xerneas is banned, unfortunately. That being said, this team looks promising.
Lead Zygarde-10%
Lead Zygarde is a novel concept. However, 3 attacks is suboptimal because Espeed and Tarrows hit everything relevant for neutral. Substitute would be an adequate replacement for Outrage. Is there a specific reason you chose 10% over 50%? Zygarde-10%'s frailty means a is required, while Zygarde-50%'s improved bulk would allow it the freedom of an item such as Leftovers. Replacement.

Zygarde @ Leftovers
Ability: Power Construct
Tera Type: Normal
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Substitute
- Extreme Speed
- Thousand Arrows

Xerneas.
On March 4, 2024, the NDUbers Council decided to suspect test Xerneas, as its offensive presence and sheer bulk terrorized the metagame. The vote achieved a 66% supermajority, and Xerneas was banned.
Yveltal.
Unfortunately, Mild Yveltal misses a key speed threshold in the tier, that being 306 Speed. Primal Groudon and Kyogre are some of the most used threats in the tier, which means Yveltal should outspeed them to properly check P-Groudon. A better set, while still underspeeding other Yveltal is as follows.

Yveltal @ Black Glasses
Ability: Dark Aura
Tera Type: Dark
EVs: 8 Atk / 252 SpA / 248 Spe
Hasty Nature
- Oblivion Wing
- Dark Pulse
- Defog
- Sucker Punch
Marshadow.
Unfortunately, Focus Sash Marshadow is unviable, being outclassed by other fast physical breakers. It doesn't have very good damage output without a or , and if you do want to reverse sweep is a frankly better option.
Marshadow @ Choice Band
Ability: Technician
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
- Poltergeist
- Stone Edge
- Low Kick
- Shadow Sneak

Primal Groudon.
Genuinely not a bad set. I would keep in mind that Primal Pokemon cannot Terastallize. However, the only move I would swap out is Fire Punch, for Heat Crash. is the 3rd heaviest Pokemon, ergo Heat Crash rarely dips beyond 80BP.
Groudon-Primal @ Red Orb
Ability: Drought
Tera Type: Ground
EVs: 140 HP / 252 Atk / 116 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Rock Polish
- Heat Crash
- Precipice Blades
- Stone Edge

Magearna.
Magearna is very specially bulky, but it has a suboptimal stat spread with weak moves.It's also not very viable and is usually seen on trick room structures. A better special pivot would be , and a better specially defensive Pokemon would be .

Kyogre @ Blue Orb
Ability: Drizzle
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 240 HP / 76 Def / 176 SpA / 16 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Calm Mind
- Origin Pulse
- Ice Beam
- Thunder

Here is the paste of the fixed team, with Dusk Mane Necrozma replacing Xerneas. NDM has utility such as stealth rock and knock off.
https://pokepast.es/f463b2de2231aa43

thanks . btw why isnt the kyogre primal blue orb?

 

[Sami90]

Exactly why a two year old thread for a bad team was revived in beyond me. OP hasn't even logged into Smogon since March 2023 so it is unlikely they will see this. Even if they did I'm not entirely sure what the point is. Consequently, this is mainly going to be a response to the 'rate' as there are a lot of issues with it.


The standard DD Zygarde set is:

Zygarde @ Leftovers
Ability: Power Construct
EVs: 12 HP / 216 Atk / 48 SpD / 232 Spe
Tera Type: Ground
Adamant Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Thousand Arrows
- Substitute
- Dragon Tail

Last Year Bobsian and I wrote this article which if less politically correct would be called noobtraps in NDUbers and Tera Normal Extreme Speed Zygarde was in it for a reason. Zygarde has no use for Extreme Speed, even with the power boost from Tera Normal. Instead it uses Tera Ground as the power lets it become an actual offensive threat after a single boost. Zygarde does not care about Marshadow stealing its boosts because it OHKOes it anyways with +1 Tera Ground Thousand Arrows. Zygarde does not outspeed the entire metagame at +1, but hitting 426/396 Speed after a single boost is more than enough as it outspeeds Eternatus. Furthermore, Extreme Speed does little to help against faster Pokemon such as Zacian-C which resists it and Deoxys-A which usually runs Tera Ghost anyways. Dragon Tail is used to prevent Zygarde from being phased by Ho-Oh and opposing Tera Water Coil Dragon Tail Zygarde. This plays a pretty big role in what makes Dragon Dance Zygarde controversial as it eliminates an easy and common method of defensive counterplay. The standard Dragon Dance Zygarde is a threat which every good team needs at least a game plan for or it will sweep, but this is because of Tera Ground letting Zygarde break through Pokemon which could otherwise handle it such as Arceus formes and defensive Yveltal.


This is sort of true. Yveltal usually runs a Speed boosting nature, but Primal Groudon and Kyogre are rarely a reason why. Neither commonly hit 306 Speed outside of Sticky Web teams. At the time this was written 306 Speed was an important benchmark with most support Arceus formes investing a few EVs to outrun max speed Primals. If you're looking to run an offensive Yveltal it really needs Life Orb as opposed to Black Glasses as it makes Oblivion Wing actually strong and the extra healing and damage is well worth the Life Orb chip. The standard LO Yveltal set is:

Yveltal @ Life Orb
Ability: Dark Aura
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Tera Type: Dark / Fire / Flying
Naive Nature
- Dark Pulse
- Oblivion Wing
- Taunt
- Sucker Punch / Knock Off

Taunt is essential in making Yveltal such a feared threat and should never be dropped on offensive sets. Defog Yveltal is viable, but mostly on Choice Scarf sets where it is a key tool that makes Yveltal a nuisance for HO. This is because it is the only Defogger which easily removes Sticky Web and its fast Foul Play is used to revenge Zacian-C and Extreme Killer Arceus if Tera Steel or Ghost is used. Defog can be used on defensive sets, but is incredibly hard to fit as it means dropping U-turn or Taunt. Lastly, in the current metagame, Yveltal's Speed is most useful for outspeeding other mid-speed wallbreakers such as Lunala and Rayquaza. This also has the benefit of outspeeding and beating support Arceus formes which still run 307 Speed. However, those have largely faded out of the metagame due to how oppressive Yveltal itself is and most support Arceus formes invest enough Speed to get the jump on Yveltal.


Rock Tomb is usually used as Technician boosts its power enough to be comprable to Stone Edge while having the added utility of the speed drop and much higher accuracy. Even then, Marshadow is rarely seen without its STABs as they hit more than hard enough and Spectral Thief often plays a large role in checking Calm Mind Arceus formes.


This set is fine, but doesn't really fit well on the team you've suggested. Double Dance Primal Groudon is pretty much limited to hyper offense while it would appear the team you've made attempts to be more of a bulky offense. If these teams are looking for Stealth Rock usually they will opt for SD Utility Primal Groudon or in rare cases, the offensive support set.



I'm not really sure how Giratina (is this meant to be Giratina-O) is a special pivot. At the time this team was made Magearna was a viable Pokemon, even if this set wasn't. It had excellent role compression due to its unique ability to counter both Yveltal and Xerneas in a single slot, but was found on fat balance teams rather than ones like this. If you're going to give a non standard spread you need to explain what it is for. I'm assuming the Speed is to outspeed paralyzed Zacian-C. Given that you've included Heavy-Duty Boots base Kyogre in your Pokepaste and this is the SV Ubers spread I'm assuming it is copy/pasted from there. There is a very bulky similar spread in NDUbers that Primal Kyogre sometimes uses on Sticky Web teams to survive +1 Zacian-C Wild Charge, but this isn't it. If you're giving advice on a team it would be best to at least give advice from the correct meta.



Defensive Necrozma-DM is considered nearly unviable in NDUbers and has been for a while. The strategy dex is currently somewhat outdated, but this set would be more appropriate for a bulky balance team and even then there are significantly better options. On bulky offense Necrozma-DM is usually Dragon Dance Solg Z, but Stealth Rock Ultra Necrozma is also quite good despite being uncommon.

I'm not going to make a paste because this post is 2 years old and for a bygone metagame. Its great that you've clearly put some time and effort into trying to help this person fix their team, but I'd recommend becoming a bit more familiar with the metagame first.

lol . I was just searching for teams to play with ( Im new in showdown) and found this team . I didn't realize it was 2 years ago lol btw thanks for the rating . Who is OP btw?

 

[bumboclaat]

lol . I was just searching for teams to play with ( Im new in showdown) and found this team . I didn't realize it was 2 years ago lol btw thanks for the rating . Who is OP btw?

I don't know, but it also doesn't matter. This is the only post they've ever made. If you're interested in learning more about the tier I'd recommend browsing through the NDUbers forum. We also have a discord server which can be found here. I'd highly recommend joining it as it is fairly active and there are a lot of people there who would be happy to help you get into the metagame and give advice on teams.

 

[Rothcore]

thanks . btw why isnt the kyogre primal blue orb?

i uh. imported the wrong bulky kyogre set

 

[Sami90]

I don't know, but it also doesn't matter. This is the only post they've ever made. If you're interested in learning more about the tier I'd recommend browsing through the NDUbers forum. We also have a discord server which can be found here. I'd highly recommend joining it as it is fairly active and there are a lot of people there who would be happy to help you get into the metagame and give advice on teams.

thanks a lot for being helpful

 

[Sami90]

i uh. imported the wrong bulky kyogre set

no problem

 

[TheDuckChris]

Yo what the hell happened here lol

 

[Sami]

no problem

nice name

 

[Sami90]

thanks lol

nice name