Ferrothorn's a Bitch !

Alpha Wolf

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Alright, so basically my team is centered around my Ferrothorn. Being that Ferrothorn is an excellent lead, and not to mention has superb typing, I was able to come up with a decently balanced team to go along with it. I'm open to suggestions about Ferrothorn being my lead as well, being that about half this team could probably be lead. Also, many of these Pokemon will also have multiple moves in them, I hope that in the rating process I can figure out which one's to use.

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Ferrothorn @ Leftovers
Sassy Nature
Ability : Steel Thorns
Ev's : 252 Hp / 4 Atk / 252 SpD
Moves :
~ Power Whip
~ Thunder Wave
~ Leech Seed
~ Stealth Rock

What is Ferrothorn's purpose?
Ferrothorn serves as the lead on my team, and also as support as the game wears on. With excellent defenses and typing, Ferrothorn can set up for the rest of my team, and wall off some weaknesses that may punch holes in my team. Ferrothorn has Power Whip as a powerful STAB move, to slightly damage Bulky waters that cannot be taken down by other water types on my team. Gyro Ball would provide a decent STAB move, but I might want to go with Thunder Wave or Protect to stall sweepers and/or threats. Stealth Rock is obviously to begin the match with, and Leech seed is great to support the rest of the team, and in needed circumstances finish off enemy pokemon.

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Jellicent @ Leftovers
Bold Nature
Ability : Water Absorb
Ev's : 252 HP / 144 Def / 112 Spe
Moves :
~ Surf
~ Will-o-Wisp
~ Recover
~ Taunt / Toxic

What is Jellicent's purpose?
Jellicent is by far the second most important pokemon to my team. Jellicent has amazing synergy with Ferrothorn, walling off Fire-type sweepers and returning the favor with a few status ailments here and there. Jellicent will also sport leftovers, due to it's fairly high Hp it will need the recovery, even with recover in it's moveset. Scald or Surf will serve once again as a STAB moves against Ferrothorn's fire type weakness. Toxic will be chosen if I go with Scald, while Will-o-Wisp will be if I go with Surf. Shadow Ball would be an excellent STAB move to cover any Psychic type threats, while Ice Beam can help take out Dragons such as Salamence and Haxorus / Salamence / etc. I added in Taunt and Will-o-Wisp to hit Steel types like Skarmory / Forretress / Steelix, and to give status to annoying walls such as Blissey.

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Lucario @ Life Orb
Timid Nature
Ability : Inner Focus
Ev's : 4 Hp / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
~ Nasty Plot
~ Aura Sphere
~ Dark Pulse
~ Hidden Power Ice



What is Lucario's purpose?
Nasty Plot Lucario is a BEAST. Setting up on walls such as Blissey / Chancey / Milotic, Lucario can EASILY sweep through unprepared teams. Nasty Plot is a great new addition to this generation for Lucario, surprising many who think that Lucario will SD sweep. Aura Sphere is a great STAB move on walls like Blissey, while Dark Pulse takes care of Mew and Mewtwo (And I think Jirachi ?). Finally, I could have chosen Vacuum Wave for this slot, but I went with HP Ice to take down dragons and my Thundurus weakness. It is all around better because if I need to wall fighting types or excadrill, I can easily switch in Gliscor

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Rotom-W @ Choice Specs
Timid Nature
Ability : Levitate
Ev's : 252 SpA / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Moves :
~ Hydro Pump
~ Hidden Power Ice
~ Volt Switch
~ Trick

What is Rotom-W's purpose
Now, I know what you all must be thinking. Why have Jellicent and Rotom-W, 2 waters? Well, Rotom-W serves a GREAT position on my team, and that is to check bulky waters, and to burn and stall Grass types, it's only threat. Rotom-W will use STAB Tbolt to hurt water types that cannot be dealt with by anyone else on my team. Hydro Pump will hurt fires (Another positive for Ferrothorn), and Will-o-Wisp will burn enemies, while my other sweepers (soon to be mentioned) can come in for the sweep. Pain Split is so Rotom-W has a means of recovery, as well as a slight stall to allow for other's to come in, or for Scizor to Revenge Kill. Hidden Power Ice was added to Rotom-W's moveset in order to hit threats from other dragons like Haxorus / Salamence / Dragonite. Volt Switch allows Rotom to scout, and switch into to one of my walls (Jellicent / Ferrothorn)
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Latias @ Leftovers
Timid Nature
Ability : Levitate
Ev's : 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
~ Calm Mind
~ Dragon Pulse
~ Substitute
~ Recover

What is Latias's purpose?
Besides being a great late game sweeper, Latias is the prime wall for psychic threats (Celebi, Jirachi and Mew/Mewtwo). I've never tried Calm Mind Latias before, but it seems the best set for it. With Excellent speed and decent bulk, Latias will easily have time to set up a few Calm minds to either sweep or wall the opponents team. Dragon Pulse is a great STAB move, and does not lower SpA like Draco Meteor does. I put in Substitute so that Latias can take hits and also dish out dragon pulse if it needs to sweep
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Gliscor @ Toxic Orb
Impish Nature
Ability : Poison Heal
EVs : 252 HP / 176 Def / 80 Spe
~ Earthquake
~ Ice Fang
-Swords Dance
-Taunt

What is Gliscor's purpose?
Gliscor walls of fighting type threats such as Conkeldurr and Mienshao. With it's new Dream World ability Poison heal, Gliscor has a way of healing and hitting back hard. EQ is a must, providing STAB 100 base power and hitting hard to down steel types. Ice Fang is a great option due to the little amount of ice type moves on my team, but Facade can also due well (Although Gliscor does not have Guts). Swords Dance allows Gliscor to gain the upper hand on more bulky enemies like Dragonite / Blissey / Skarmory, and protect allows Gliscor to protect and switch out, or hit back with EQ or Ice Fang. Ice Fang was chosen over Facade, it is essential to my team in order to hit dragons.



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i wouldn't use scizor on this team... Here are some things which should change:
-You pack two x4 Fire weaknesses, which is bad. Take scizor out.
-You say you need scizor for the steels which counter your defensive core. Did you by any chance forget your Conkeldurr?
-Instead of Scizor, take a poke who covers your weaknesses.
-Take she slash away and keep Payback for Conkeldurr, otherwise he just can't touch ghosts.
-Run Volt Switch on Rotom-W, as it gives you some scouting options... although, of course, there's stuff like team preview now. Still, it gets you out of annoying situations.
-You could run scald over Hydro pump as it has 30% chance of inflicting burn, leaving you a free slot for will-o-wisp/hp fire

Im sorry I can't suggest a scizor replacement or help you any more, but i'm in a bit of a hurry. Btw, it's still a pretty good team.
 
Hey, nice team. I've got a few suggestions to improve it:

Jellicent is a great Pokemon in general, but your variant doesn't really accomplish anything apart from taking attacks. I suggest changing the set a Utility Counter:

Jellicent (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Water Absorb
EVs: 248 HP / 216 Def / 44 Spd
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Taunt
- Will-O-Wisp
- Scald
- Recover

This set will really help you against stall based Pokemon. With Taunt and Will-O-Wisp, Jellicent can shut down Pokemon like Ferrothorn, Blissey, Chansey, Skarmory, and Forretress. It's still bulky enough to take hits like it normally does, but with a little change to its moveset, it takes on a whole new role.

Secondly, I disagree with Captain Dragan's rate about Scizor. You have plenty of Fire resists, and Scizor is very helpful against certain Pokemon, such as Tyranitar, is dangerous to some of your members. It's a great revenge killer and hard hitter overall, and doesn't need to be replaced.

My final suggestion is replacing Hydreigon with Choice Specs Latios:

Latios (M) @ Choice Specs
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Draco Meteor
- Dragon Pulse / Hidden Power Fire
- Surf
- Trick

Latios is a fantastic Pokemon in OU, and is faster and hits harder than Hydriegon. Latios still covers Psychic-type attacks, and even though it lacks Fire Blast, your team handles Steel-types well enough, with Ferrothorn, Jellicent, Rotom-W, and Conkeldurr. Once Steel-types are taken out of the way, Latios can easily put massive holes in your opponents team.

Good luck with the team, I hope I helped.
 
If youre gonna do some stalling. Youre probly gonna want a rapid spinner. Hitmontop is a good option. You could replace conkeldurr with him. He isnt as amazing offensively, but he has intimidate and excellent defenses. Possible set to mimic conkeldurr's

-rapid spin
-mach punch
-sucker punch
-stone edge

Also: hidden power ice on rotom? I noticed you have barely any ice moves.
 
Thanks for the helpful advice guys, means a lot considering this is only my 3rd team I've ever built.
Changes will be indicated in Bold.

@ Captain Dragan: Thank you for the suggestion, if you can suggest a pokemon that is better for my team than scizor, just let me know. Currently though, I might need Scizor just as Moo said, Tyranitar can be a huge problem for my team. I'm going to try running Volt Switch instead of either Tbolt or Pain Split.

@ Moo: The new Jellicent moveset sounds good to me, fits better with my team. Why have Scald and Will-o-Wisp though? Surf hits for a better STAB of 95 Base power, and Will-o-Wisp already burns. I like the Taunt idea, and recover is a MUST for Jellicent. Other than the Scald, I'll be changing it. Also, on another note, I don't really have a Latios ... I can get one, but is there any other suggestions you might have? If not, I'll try to get my hands on a Latios

@ SilentShadow7: Thanks for the suggestion, but to be honest I'm not really truly going for a stall team, just a balanced one built around Ferrothorn. In the past, Hitmontop never really did too much for me, so I'm going to stick with Conkeldurr and see how that works out. Bulk Up Conkeldurr is NOT to be messed with. Also, thanks for the HP ice suggestion, that will be going onto Rotom-W.
 
Also, if not stressed enough, who should I replace Scizor and Hydreigon with if needed? If you could please use this format when telling me which to replace with, it would be much appreciated:

Pokemon @ Item
Nature
Ability
Ev's
Moveset
Why this Pokemon would be good for my team ?
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Well, earlier you mentioned a weakness to Tyranitar when you were analyzing your need of Scizor, while in face you have Conkeldurr who is a much better counter to Ttar. I recommend replacing Hydreigon with Latios, Latios has higher speed and Special Attack while sporting much better resistances. you are weak to fighting types outside of Jellicent, so Latios can patch up that hole. I recommend using either a Choice Specs set, or LO, the choice is all up to preference.
 
@ LampShade0wns: Thanks, I'm going to try a Latios on my team and see how that works out. Also, if Conkeldurr is a good counter to Ttar, who should I replace scizor with? Still trying to figure that out
 
Hey there,

Nice team, but ironically it's weak to one of its members : Conkeldurr. Nothing can take it on this team, especially not Jellicent. The only two pokemon it will have troubles with on 1 on 1 are Rotom-W and Hydreigon, both of which doesn't really appreciate switching into Drain Punch. Maybe you could swap Conkeldurr for Gliscor? That way you earn a cool switch-in into Terrakion, another pokemon that you can't really switch into (you can revenge it with Scizor though). Here's what you should use :

Gliscor @ Toxic Orb
Impish
Poison Heal
EVs : 252 HP / 184 Atk / 72 Spe
-Earthquake
-Facade / Ice Fang
-Swords Dance
-Protect

Hope this helped!
 
@ Steeli: Thanks for the suggestion, I just noticed that as well and it puts a huge hole in my team. I'll definatly be putting gliscor on my team

Also, to all those out there, is there anything better than Latios ?? I could get a Latias maybe, would that work? Let me know guys !
 
u could put in a politoed over scizor, and change hydreigon's fire blast to surf. it also helps the rest of ur team: it allows rotom to hit with high-powered hydro pumps and thunders, it covers up ferro's fire weakness, the opponent is going to be spamming water moves for jellicent, and stops other weather sweepers from killing you.
 
@ Aeromance : Thanks for the suggestion on Politoed, and not to be really picky but do you think there's another pokemon I could do? It's another water type and I think Jellicent and Rotom-W take care of that, but if you think it's best I could change it. Lemme know your thoughts though, give me a PM if I'm being too annoying here too haha.

@ SilentShadow7 : Thanks man ! I'm definatly going to go with Latias this time around.
 
possible scizor replacements: lucario, metagross, machamp, heracross, infernape. Tyranitar is a good pursuit user if you dont care about the weather.
 
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