Feraligatr's Fun (Peaked #1)

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Hi! This is Dat Bulk with my second, and overall better RMT! I laddered with this team on the OU suspect test ladder with the account Dem Wallbreakers. I managed to peak at the number one spot with a score of 2025 before losing two battles. My win to loss ratio as of right now is 24-2, which is pretty good because I'm fairly new to competitive battling. I built this team around Feraligatr, because I wanted to show people how big of a threat that he is especially in the rain. I think that this team is one of the best that I have ever built and it is really fun to play with in my opinion. Now on to the team!
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Feraligatr @ Mystic Water
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 184 HP / 252 Atk / 72 Spd
Adamant Nature
- Aqua Jet
- Crunch
- Waterfall
- Swords Dance

Politoed @ Choice Specs
Trait: Drizzle
EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 Spd / 4 HP
Timid Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam
- Focus Blast
- Perish Song

Ferrothorn @ Leftovers
Trait: Iron Barbs
EVs: 88 Def / 252 HP / 168 SDef
Relaxed Nature
- Leech Seed
- Power Whip
- Spikes
- Thunder Wave

Tentacruel @ Black Sludge
Trait: Rain Dish
EVs: 244 Def / 248 HP / 16 Spd
Bold Nature
- Scald
- Toxic
- Substitute
- Rapid Spin

Landorus-Therian (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 200 HP / 64 Atk / 244 Def
Brave Nature
- Earthquake
- Stealth Rock
- U-turn
- Hidden Power [Ice]

Thundurus-Therian (M) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Volt Absorb
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 SAtk / 4 HP
Timid Nature
- Focus Blast
- Thunder
- Volt Switch
- Hidden Power [Ice]

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Landorus-Therian @ Leftovers
Trait: Intimidate
Evs 200 HP / 244 Def / 64 Atk
Brave Nature
-Stealth Rock
-U Turn
-Earthquake
-Hidden Power Ice​

Landorus is one of the most important members of the team. Without him breloom has a good chance to sweep me clean. He is my stealth rock setter and makes a volturn core with Thunderus. Landorus is the glue of this team tanking hits from the physical side from Terrakion, Tyranitar, and others. The Evs are the standard ones from Smogon, but im thinking about running enough speed and a jolly nature to outspeed Toxicroak and KO before he sets up. Earthquake is because of STAB and hits incredibly hard coming off of a base 145 attack. Hidden Power Ice is to hit Gliscor and Breloom harder than any other move would and to get a 2HKO on both of them. I guess I could change Landorus for something that can take on Breloom and Toxicroak a little more reliable so I'm up for changes.

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Thunderus-Therian @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Volt Absorb
Evs 252 Spd / 252 SpA
Timid Nature
-Volt Switch
-Hidden Power Ice
-Thunder
-Focus Blast​
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Thunderus is one of the most important members of the team, because he can revenge a lot of pokemon at +1 including: Dragonite, Salamence, Haxorus, and Gyarados. Thunder coming off of a base 145 SpA isn't playing any games. It one shots most pokemon in the tier that aren't dedicated walls or that resist it. Volt Switch is used the most often so that I can scout in coming switch ins or switch outs of Thunderus and go into the appropiate counter. Hidden Power Ice is for Boltbeam coverage, and lastly Focus Blast is there to hit incoming Tyranitars and Ferrothorns which my team struggles with. All in all Thunderus is a great member of the team, but still recplacable if theres something out there that does his job better.

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Politoed @ Choice Specs
Trait: Drizzle
Evs 252 SpA / 252 Spd
Timid Nature
-Hydro Pump
-Focus Blast
-Ice Beam
-Perish Song​
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Politoed is one of the best wallbreakers in the tier, in my opinion. Choice Specs, STAB, Rain Boosted Hydro Pump will demolish anything that it hits, except Celebi and Ferrothorn. Focus Blast is to hit Ferrothorn and Gastrodon which wall it otherwise, and because my team struggles against Ferrothorn. Ice Beam is there to hit pesky grass types and dragons. Lastly Perish Song is there so that set up sweepers wont be as much as a problem. Also so that the last member of them opponents team won't sweep me clean. I run max speed and a timid nature because Politoed doesn't end up taking many hits throughout the battle and being able to outspeed adamant breloom is a plus. Here are some quick calcs to show how much damage choice specs Politoed does.
252 SpA Choice Specs Politoed Hydro Pump vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Forretress in rain: 516-607 (145.76 - 171.46%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 SpA Choice Specs Politoed Hydro Pump vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Rotom-W in rain: 162-191 (66.94 - 78.92%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Choice Specs Politoed Hydro Pump vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Kyurem-B in rain: 187-221 (47.82 - 56.52%) -- 85.94% chance to 2HKO
252 SpA Choice Specs Politoed Hydro Pump vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Hippowdon: 404-476 (96.19 - 113.33%) -- 75% chance to OHKO

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Tentacruel @ Black Sludge
Trait: Rain Dish
Evs 248 HP / 228 Def / 32 Spd
Bold Nature
-Rapid Spin
-Scald
-Substiute
-Toxic​

Tentacruel has a very important job on this team and that is to spread toxics and to rapid spin away the hazards. Rapid Spin is obviously to prevent hazards from being on my side of the field. Toxic is there so that I can toxic any Jellicent before it can taunt me then i can just spam rapid spin until he switches out. substitute is there because surprisingly tentacruel creates many switches that he can take advantage of and also recovers half of the substitute health in the rain which is great. Scald is there for STAB and being able to burn physical attackers like Terrakion. I run 32 Speed Evs to be able to set up a substitute on other Tentacruels and spam Scald until I get the burn. Tentacruel is a great asset to my team being able to prevent hazards on my side of the field I dont think any poke would do his job any better.


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Ferrothorn @ Leftovers
Trait: Iron Barbs
Evs 88 Def / 168 SpD / 252 HP
Relaxed Nature
-Power Whip
-Leech Seed
-Thunder Wave
-Spikes
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Ferrothorn walls SO many threats in the rain including: Jolteon, Rotom, both of the Latis, Dragonite, Garchomp, Gliscor, Jirachi, and Kyurem B. The Evs on Ferrothorn are standard being a mixed wall and taking all kinds of hits. Power Whip is for the STAB and being able to actually put a dent into many things. Leech Seed is for recovery while chipping away at the opponents health which is very helpful keeping Ferrothorn at a good amount of health. Thunder Wave is a great move on Ferrothorn because he is able to cause many switches and most of the time into things that can hurt him like Keldeo, and being able to paralyze a Keldeo is great anytime. Spikes are a necessity so that Feraligatr will get all of the KOs that it needs to get, and chipping away at the opponents health is good.
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Feraligatr @ Mystic Water
Trait: Torrent
Evs 184 HP / 252 Atk / 72 Spd
Adamant Nature
-Sword Dance
-Aqua Jet
-Waterfall
-Crunch​

Now finally the star of the team, and the pokemon that this team was based around Feraligatr. Hes just an absolute monster in the rain, and is extremely underated. Mystic Water Powers up both of his water moves to extreme levels in the rain and with a Sword Dance boost. The Evs are from smogon to take as many hits until you get until torrent range and then smash the opponent. Adamant nature to have as much power as possible. Waterfall for the rain boosted STAB and Aqua Jet to kill faster pokes. Crunch is to be able to hit the lati's and so Jellicent doesnt completely wall me. Sword Dance is to boost Feraligatr's attack to great power. Here are some quick calcs to show how powerful Feraligatr is after a Sword Dance boost in torrent and in the rain.
+2 252+ Atk Mystic Water Torrent Feraligatr Waterfall vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Politoed in rain: 288-339 (75 - 88.28%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+2 252+ Atk Mystic Water Torrent Feraligatr Waterfall vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Rotom-W in rain: 315-371 (130.16 - 153.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 252+ Atk Mystic Water Torrent Feraligatr Waterfall vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Latias in rain: 363-428 (120.19 - 141.72%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 252+ Atk Feraligatr Crunch vs. 248 HP / 216+ Def Jellicent: 308-364 (76.42 - 90.32%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+2 252+ Atk Mystic Water Torrent Feraligatr Aqua Jet vs. 200 HP / 0 Def Scizor in rain: 333-393 (100.6 - 118.73%) -- guaranteed OHKO
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For the people that need proof of the peak
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Hey Dat Bulk Though! Awesome rain team. Feraligatr is a really terrifying cleaner with the right support, and has little trouble sweeping teams with just Aqua Jet at +2. Definitely scary to face if you're unprepared.

Your team seems to be extremely weak to sun teams. If Ninetales manages to win the weather war and Politoed dies, you have nothing that can really take on Venusaur at +2. If it's the mixed set with HP Ice and Earthquake, it has an even easier time sweeping you, with only Ferrothorn being able to take it's attacks. But ferrothorn isn't hard at all for sun teams to take down, thanksto powerful Fire attacks being thrown left and right. To fix this, I would suggest Scarf Latios over Scarf Thundurus-T. Latios can actually outspeed some Venusaur that still run Modest (they shouldn't, but some still do). Not only that, but Psyshock is a clean OHKO against all the standard Venusaur sets, and it can't OHKO you unless it's at +2. Latios also maintains the electric resistance that Thundurus-T provided, since you have three Pokémon weak to it. It also helps against Scarf keldeo, which can be a problem if Tentacruel gets weakened (not hard to do since you don't have Protect to heal). Latios can take a Hydro Pump and KO back with Psyshock. It also stops ScarfChomp, which can be a pain, since Landorus and Ferrothorn are your only checks to it, and they don't have recovery. Latios can out-sepeed and KO with Draco Meteor. Overall, I think Latios is a better fit for your team.

One more thing, you should change your Politoed's EV spread to 252 HP / 252 SAtk / 4 Spe with a Modest Nature. This way, you have much more bulk, and you hit a lot harder with the positive special attack nature. It'll help you win the weather war much more easily.

Hope I was able to help! Good luck with the team!

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Latios (M) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 Spd / 4 SDef
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Draco Meteor
- Psyshock
- Surf
- Thunder
 
@Halycon of Light
Thank you so much for the rate! I think you're absolutely right about my weakness to sun teams. I will definitely test out Latios over thunderus, but I'm not to sure about the politoed ev spread because Breloom is a huge threat to my team and being able to outspeed adamant ones which are most of them out there and also speed tie with jolly ones is huge. Ill try it out though! Thanks again for the rate. :)
 
change your toed's speed evs a little.

220 Sp/ 36 HP

That way you hit 231 Speed so you can always outspeed Adamant Scizor, and even though Scizor is 229 Speed, Heatrans always creep to 230, so Toed can still outspeed and ko before it sets up rocks on your team.
 
@Jazz
Thanks for the suggestion man! It sounds great as long as I still outspeed adamant Breloom which might not be a problem anymore because of the switch to Latios. Thanks for the help ill definitely try it out and add it to the changes when I can get home to be on my laptop.
 
I used a gatr to ladder very successfully about a year ago, and felt that lum berry was his best item. It allows to setup on scald and wow users, who would otherwise cripple you.

Otherwise, great rmt.
 
@attila
Thanks for the suggestion! :) I've been really busy the last couple of days so ill definitely test that out with the other suggestions and make changes accordingly! I do think being able to set up against scald and wow users will be really useful, of to be able to set up on body slam jirachi. Thanks again. :)
 
Looks like this team could use a pokemon who is more 'reliable' at taking down opposing Ferrothorn, say Magnezone, if you aim for a successful Feraligatr sweep. Otherwise, I really don't get the synergy here.

Tentacruel, while being great at sponging Toxic Spikes, isn't really doing much imo. The glaring electric weakness could put you in trouble against a skillful Jolteon user.

So overall, I'd try out Magnezone (probably scarfed) instead of Tenta.
 
@rkatzam
Thanks for the rate! But I'm not to sure about that considering I'm in the rain. And also losing tenta opens me up to keldeo a lot and I would lose rapid spinning which is bad with a stealth rock weakness.
 
I think superpower>crunch ,
superpower hits a ton of things for good natural damage like politoed, gastro and rotom not to mention ferrothorn.

but i can see the strategy behind the team you have specs politoed so you can slowly put a dent to ferro after many Hydro pumps good synergy did you planned doing it or you just did it on random ?

also i don't think people need proof of the peak feraligtr rules we all know that, at least those who tested it

nice team no need to chance anything if you don't really have to .
 
@grey night
Thanks a lot for the rate! I've definitely considered superpower over crunch of feraligatr but being able to hit jellicent has really been able to come in handy. I should be able to test everything out tomorrow night, so ill try it out then! Thanks :)
 
@swwaaggeerr
That sounds like a cool idea! But ill definitely miss out on some KOs from the STAB volt switch, but if ground types become annoying ill give it a shot! Thanks. :)
 
Crunch is needed for jellicent, who's incredibly common, and stops the gator cold. I'd run superpower over waterfall, since you're not going to be outspending much outside bulky steels.
 
I could consider LO over Mystic water on Feraligator to power up your moves a bit, mostly crunch, and to bring him into torrent range quicker. I imagine you can OHKO jelly with a LO crunch.
 
Hi.

That's a Feraligatr team, why not, this pokemon is a dangerous threat for many team archetypes (offensive, but defensive aswell) combining different boots and a underused priority.


So, onto the team, I guess you tried the classic defensive rain core and patched the weaknesses with two therians. On top of that, you add a Feraligatr. Ok.
But, I don't feel like you prepare his sweep that much. I mean, Breloom can still run pretty freely, and it's not because you wall it (and not that well) that you can say "he won't be here to stop my crocodile's sweep". I'll talk later about Toxicroak because here it's even worse : you don't wall it, and he walls you.
I guess you tried to overload Latias with strong attacks.. I'm pretty sure he just has to Recover from your Timid Politoed to stay safe. But that "could" work, at least you have some kind of plan here.

So the weaknesses :

- Toxicroak. Toxicroak. Oh this guy, you must hate him with passion. After one SD he can pretty much 6-0 your team, and given that Tentacruel can't touch him, that Feligatr can't touch him, that Toed can be locked in Hpump etc... He will get this SD if your opponent is half decent.

- Breloom will come on Ferro and Spore, that's annoying. Not a "huge" threat, but he can stop your Fera sweep and you can't really lure him that well (Ferro can't touch him). Imo, we need to work on it.

- Latias, or Latios, especially with Surf. Ferrothorn is your answer, but in return, Latias walls the rest of your team. Not a big deal on paper, but you should have a way to kill/lure them since they stop your Fera sweep.

- I can imagine a Sub/CM Keldeo being a bitch, but any Keldeo could be a bitch to face for that team. You got Tenta and that's all, I guess that's a decent answer if Rain is up.

- Landorus gives troubles to your team, you can only revenge kill it with Aqua Jet or your Scarf (if he didnt RP). So I guess that's "ok".

- Some random Sub/CM Jirachi with Thunder and HP Ice, or Water Pulse. But that's pretty rare.

- Rotom-W tanks decently your sweepers attack, and applies a pretty big offensive pressure aswell, being able to threaten everybody (WoW Ferro).

Okay, so I think we got enough weaknesses. The important ones are about Toxicroak and Breloom/Keldeo/Rotomw in my opinion, and you need a way to get those Lati@s down.

The changes :

- Okay first, change that Lando spread to Jolly 248 HP / 148 Def / 112 Spe. With SE over HP Ice. It could come handy against Gyara, who is also a threat (well, to any Rain I guess).

- Give Chesto Berry to Ferro, add him 16 Atk EVs that you took back from SpD and give him Gyro Ball over Twave and Rest over Leech Seed.
This set does two important things : - First, you can kill Breloom with PowerWhip+GyroBall 100% of the time. On top of that, if he comes on a PWhip, you can absorb a Spore and get the surprise kill with your Chesto Berry.
- Give you a better way to recover for your Ferro, and a way to absorb status (think about Rotom's WoW).

- I think your team would appreciate having a Tentacruel with Toxic Spikes. Something like Scald/TSpikes/Protect/RS or Sub over Protect (but then, that's a different spread that the one I'd give you). The point being, it will help against Keldeo, especially the Sub/CM version. I'd also recommend having a Specially defensive spread here, you got Lando-T to take physical hits. You need a real Special sponge in my opinion. Like 208 / 24 Def / 252 SpD / 24 Spe. This way, even a Specs Keldeo under Rain won't be able to take you down, unless he locks himself into Secret Sword (even, that's never a 2HKO) which is good for you.

- I'd like you to try giving a Scarf to Toed and changing Thundy to a NP version.
That's 8 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 244 Spe with a Timid Nature for the Toed to outspeed Nite at +1. For the Thundy, give him Nasty Plot instead of Volt-Switch and for the item, it's up to you. You can give him a LO or an Expert-Belt (I dont like LO's recoil here though) or a Yache Berry, which could be a good idea given how Mamoswine is troublesome for your team. You can even give him a Lum. Now, you have a real guy able to pressure a defensive Latias and Rotom-W. (You can try Hypnosis over FBlast on your Scarf Toed, but I hate this shit).

That's it, I didnt change any pokemon because I think the skeleton is fine. I did some EVs tailoring more than anything else here, gave TSpikes to Tenta for Keldeo, changed your original Lando-T for a classic one, changed Ferro's item and switching Thundy and Toed role. It won't change the way you play your team at all.
Every single set has been explained in each "change" section so, I guess I don't really need to do a long recap given the slight changes I've done on each set.


TL;DR :

Lando-T Jolly
Ferro Chesto Rest
Tenta TSpikes
Thundy NP
Toed Scarf
 
@Remedy
You're right about Brelooom being annoying! And toxicoak I normally perish song with politoed until he's the last one left then I find a way to deal with him, but probably the biggest threat to this team. I finally get to test all of the suggestions today because I'm not busy. I think ill definitely test yours first because it looks like they could help a lot. Thanks a lot for the rate, and ill update the team as soon as I test out the suggestions. :) thanks!
 
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