Eevolution team

[blackjackS]

Why hello there, how are you all doing? Fine? Great. I'm Blackjack, sort of new to the smogon forum, but not new to battling, as I have played quite a few matches on pokemon showdown. And I want to show you with pride, one of my favourite teams:

-The Eevolution Team!-

Now, assuming you've stopped laughing at me, Allow me to show you why this team is not made for eevee fanboys only. I have to admit, it was originally just for laughs, but it turned out to work very well. Trust me, I've won plenty of times so far with this team. Also, this is NOT a sun team. Yes, there is a ninetales in my team, but my team definitely does not revolve around him. He's just that last piece of a puzzle I needed to solve when making this team. Let's get to the description, shall we?

(oh, and ignore the silly names)

ALIEN (Espeon) (M) @ Light Clay
Trait: Magic Bounce
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Spd / 4 Def
Timid Nature
- Reflect
- Light Screen
- Psyshock
- Hidden Power [Fire]

I knew from the very start that from all of the eevolutions, Espeon is one that I definitely wanted in my team. Magic bounce is just straight up godly. I'm sure you know what it does, it reflects every single thing, from stealth rock to whirlwind, back. He's a dual screen user because a lot of the eevolutions can be very squishy, so I need that extra defence. Psyshock is my stab of choice, which hits special walls like blissey, who expect psychic. There is one pokemon that my team has a lot of trouble with, and that is ferrothorn. This guy is my main counter for him.

Little mermaid (Vaporeon) (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Water Absorb
EVs: 244 HP / 130 Def / 134 Spd
Bold Nature
- Acid Armour
- Baton Pass
- Scald
- Substitute

He's almost like a miniature blissey, isn't he? but so much cuter. :3 Anyway, at first, I wanted him to be a cleric with wish, but I discovered that would cause my team to have two wish passers, which I really do not need. His goal is to set up a defence boost (and possibly ruin a sweeper's chances with scald along the way), and pass it to either jolteon, leafeon, or ninetales. Jolteon is very frail, and the other two require boosts to sweep well, so he's a very welcome member to my team. The fact that he's a pure water type is also pretty cool.

Spike (Jolteon) (M) @ Life Orb
Trait: Volt Absorb
EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 Spd / 4 Def
Modest Nature
- Thunderbolt
- Volt Switch
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Signal Beam

Hit hard, run the fuck away. It's what Jolteon does best. The ice/electric combo is not as great as it used to be, but it is still neccesary for me to have on a team, especially if people for once decide not to use ferrothorn. No need for any defence EV's, that wouldn't work anyway. Besides, if he really needs to take a hit for something like a switch, acid armour vaporeon can save the day. Very few things outspeed him, which makes him a great revenge killer (as long as whatever he's put up against does not have a speed boost and good speed stats naturally).

Nox (Umbreon) (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Synchronize
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SDef / 4 Def
Calm Nature
- Heal Bell
- Wish
- Foul Play
- Protect

The special wall of my team, umbreon. He does not have the HP stat vaporeon has, but it is decent enough with IV investment, and he has an incredible support movepool. Foul play works very nicely with his great special defence, as his main counters are hard and very fast hitting fighting types, which take a serious dent when they recieve a foul play upon switching. I originally wanted him to have more defence, but he always can use wish to heal himself up.

Flare...NO WAIT (Ninetales) (M) @ Air Balloon
Trait: Drought
EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 Spd / 4 SDef
Timid Nature
- Fire Blast
- Hypnosis
- SolarBeam
- Nasty Plot

Around this moment I was starting to run out of good eevolutions, so I needed to use my wild card. When I'm creating themed teams (long live alliteration), I usually allow myself to have one pokemon in the team that slightly deviates from the rest, to give myself a better chance. Ninetales actually fits pretty well in my team, but only one pokemon really benefits from his everlasting sun. I chose hypnosis instead of sunny day because I haven't had all that much need for it, and as long as ninetales stays alive, I'm not worried about losing my sun to some other weather. Plus, hypnosis and nasty plot are like bread and butter. The air balloon can really help out with entry hazards (and I can't rapid spin them away, so this guy needs it, especially because he is weak to stealth rock). I really wanted flareon in my team, but ninetales is just so much better.

Mr. Peeble (Leafeon) (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Chlorophyll
EVs: 252 Spd / 224 Atk / 32 HP
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Leaf Blade
- Double-Edge
- Aerial Ace

There's only one way Leafeon can peform well in OU, which is with a sunlight boost. Leafeon has a surprisingly high defence, and he functions very similiar to sawsbuck, only without the ability to use nature power. boost your attack, and use the sun to sweep everything to smithereens. Smogon suggested baton pass in the last slot, but I can't really pass those sword dances to anyone in this team, so instead I gave him aerial ace, to allow him to deal with fighting types. It's a weak move, and I originally wanted to put a fire-type move on him, but he doesn't have one aside from hidden power fire. If you know any move to be put in this slot, please say so.

And that's it. Please rate and and comment, just be nice. :)

 

[Box]

Your team is destroyed by any form of Heatran whatsoever.

My advise is simply to not use an Eeveelution team as they are generally uncompetitive and lose to half-decent players.

I'm on my phone now, but a massive change that would benefit your team with absolutely no detriment is using Swords Dance Sawsbuck over Leafeon. Sawsbuck is the superior Sun sweeper by far, and he has Nature Power or Jump Kick to tackle the likes of Heatran (Jump Kick is more for Air Balloon variants).

Sawsbuck @ Life Orb / Leftovers
Chlorophyll
252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly / Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Horn Leech
- Return
- Jump Kick / Nature Power

Also, with Espeon supplying Dual Screens, Acid Armor on Vaporeon is made fairly redundant. With no spinner to mitigate residual damage, you will appreciate Wish over Acid Armor on Vaporeon, for big heals all around. Espeon on that note should also carry Baton Pass over Hidden Power Fire as it allows her to avoid being Pursuit-trapped if you happen to set up Light Screen first.

Seriously though. Don't use Eeveelution teams if you're actually planning on winning consistently.

P.S. Ninetale's Air Balloon doesn't let her dodge hazards. Funny huh! I guess you'd know that if you had actually tested your team before posting.

 

[Episode36]

Hey. Props for using Leafeon in sun. It's a pretty decent and underused threat (like Sawsbuck and Lilligant). With such a huge Heatran weakness, though, I would change Leafeons item to Power Herb, and change Double Edge or Aerial Ace for Dig. This allows you to use, basically, a slightly weaker Earthquake to nail that Heatran either after it switches into an attack and its balloon is popped, or if it isn't balloon, then you can annihilate it immediately. Skarmory still walls Leafeon, though, so be sure to take care of that first. Also consider using Sawsbuck in its place, or alongside it, even though it has hardly the defense Leafeon has, and is weak to Mach Punch.

 

[Box]

What kind of Heatran stays in on Dig...?

Dig works on a 2-turn basis, not like Focus Punch with two different priorities. Dig is essentially deadweight in the moveslot against any team with a Ground-immune Pokemon.

Seriously just use Sawsbuck otherwise Heatran rapes you.

 

[Tressed]

What kind of Heatran stays in on Dig...?

Dig works on a 2-turn basis, not like Focus Punch with two different priorities. Dig is essentially deadweight in the moveslot against any team with a Ground-immune Pokemon.

Seriously just use Sawsbuck otherwise Heatran rapes you.

He mentioned Power Herb.... not like Leafeon is going to hit hard enough without some kind of offensive item.

But yeah, its generally not a good idea to be using eeveelutions if you want to play even semi-competitively. Hell, its not a good idea to be using any kind of themed team, unless said team actually works well together to accomplish a common goal.
Right now, your team is really weak to a ton of threats. Box's Heatran mention is just one of them. Landorus, for example, absolutely steamrolls this team after Umbreon has taken a little damage. Kyurem-B can switch into quite a few of your teammates, and once its in, nothing can force it out, and nothing can kill it without getting wrecked by its offensive options. Dragonite has no problem setting up on any of your Pokemon, and will just boost up to +6 and wipe your team.
Probably best to just start from scratch, imo.

 

[blackjackS]

Thank you for all of the advice. I do have a few comments.

Your team is destroyed by any form of Heatran whatsoever.
That is very true. I have yet to use this team against someone with heatran, but I should be able to check that.
My advise is simply to not use an Eeveelution team as they are generally uncompetitive and lose to half-decent players.


I'm on my phone now, but a massive change that would benefit your team with absolutely no detriment is using Swords Dance Sawsbuck over Leafeon. Sawsbuck is the superior Sun sweeper by far, and he has Nature Power or Jump Kick to tackle the likes of Heatran (Jump Kick is more for Air Balloon variants).

Sawsbuck @ Life Orb / Leftovers
Chlorophyll
252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly / Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Horn Leech
- Return
- Jump Kick / Nature Power

Also, with Espeon supplying Dual Screens, Acid Armor on Vaporeon is made fairly redundant. With no spinner to mitigate residual damage, you will appreciate Wish over Acid Armor on Vaporeon, for big heals all around. Espeon on that note should also carry Baton Pass over Hidden Power Fire as it allows her to avoid being Pursuit-trapped if you happen to set up Light Screen first.
Hm, pursuit trapping. Very true. a lot of times I switch espeon in on ferrothorn (to bounce back leech seed or thunder wave/toxic). I put that move in because aside from ninetales, nothing can stop that guy. I guess your are right though.
Seriously though. Don't use Eeveelution teams if you're actually planning on winning consistently.

P.S. Ninetale's Air Balloon doesn't let her dodge hazards. Funny huh! I guess you'd know that if you had actually tested your team before posting.
I very well know it does not stop all hazards, but it does allow her to avoid toxic spikes and spikes. Stealth rock obviously not, but I had already mentioned that in my first post.Oh, and I've played at least 25 matches with this team. I've won about 2/3 of the matches so far, so either I'm really good, or my opponents were terrible, or I have a bad memory. Probably the second one. Don't misunderstand, I'm not new to battling, I have played about 200 matches on pokemon showdown. Thank you for the feedback.

He mentioned Power Herb.... not like Leafeon is going to hit hard enough without some kind of offensive item.
Why not? 110 attack isn't insane, but especially with a swords dance you can kill a lot.

But yeah, its generally not a good idea to be using eeveelutions if you want to play even semi-competitively. Hell, its not a good idea to be using any kind of themed team, unless said team actually works well together to accomplish a common goal.
I very well know that, but I don't play to win, but to have fun. Themed runs can be gimmicky at times, but that's what so fun about it. Seing something that is considered silly actually work out pretty well is incredible. Don't misunderstand, I really appreciate your critique.
Right now, your team is really weak to a ton of threats. Box's Heatran mention is just one of them. Landorus, for example, absolutely steamrolls this team after Umbreon has taken a little damage. Kyurem-B can switch into quite a few of your teammates, and once its in, nothing can force it out, and nothing can kill it without getting wrecked by its offensive options. Dragonite has no problem setting up on any of your Pokemon, and will just boost up to +6 and wipe your team.
Probably best to just start from scratch, imo.

Alright, I already know I'm really weak to heatran, but nonetheless thanks for pointing out. Landorus can be a bit of a problem, but he can't take that hidden power ice from jolteon. Same goes for dragonite, both are either seriously dented (provided they are bulky enough) or KO'd in one hit. Umbreon is able to take down Kyurem-B with foul play, but I have to admit he will have difficulty staying alive, especially if Kyurem has focus blast in his moveset for coverage.

I'm going to try out power herb+dig on this team, but I refuse to just throw it all away. If I want to have a solid team, I'll just one of my other 8 teams.