Do you switch out when a Breloom Spores you?

Do you switch out when a Breloom Spores you?

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Arzamo

I need to know this for a team I'm making involving a double-spore Breloom (Focus Sash + Spore + Stun Spore). Butterfree and Jumpluff can also do this, but I think that the combo is already too expected on them.

If I lead with Breloom and it hangs on using Focus Sash, will the opponent suspect a double Spore and switch out? Or will he/she just expect a Focus Punch?

EDIT: The opponent is you if you vote in the poll.

EDIT2: This is assuming that the Breloom in question has been knocked to 1 HP by an attack, holding on with the Focus Sash. Therefore, there is no hope of Subbing.
 
Most of the Breloom I saw either use Seed Bomb (which does jack against a lot of things but it's being used anyway) or Substitute. If it Subs when I stay in that is a lot of pain coming up, so I usually switch straight to another Breloom counter. Even if you're using Sash and Sporing me I would switch, because there's one thing worse than a sleeping Pokemon and that's a crippled sleeping Pokemon.

EDIT: Unless I got a faster Sleep Talker against your Sash Breloom of course, I'd just take my 66% chance of taking away your last point of health. If it's a non-Sash Breloom I usually switch out my Sleep Talker, especially if Breloom is faster because then it can Substitute until I miss something or select Rest.
 
Yes because Breloom almost always Subs after the Spore and not switching gives it two guaranteed focus punches.
 
Firestorm said:
Yes because Breloom almost always Subs after the Spore and not switching gives it two guaranteed focus punches.
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I agree with this users post. nnearly every breloom I've seen lately abuses the toxic orb wit focus punch, spore, sub, and usially seed bomb, but once leechseed.
 
I think the real question is, why would you even bother staying in? Hoping for the 33% that your poke wakes up? You're just gonna get spored again once Breloom hides behind their subsitute.
 
Im usually the one doing the sporing, but when I face breloom I usually switch to a sleep absorber first, then switch again, expecting a sub to something that isnt OHKOed by focus punch and can break brelooms sub and go then proceed to KO.

Also: Seed Bomb sucks pretty hard on breloom over leech seed, if gengar comes up and you have a sub up you can pass a seed to a counter, and you can sub/seed stall dusknoir to death.
 
But I'm using it as a lead. Assuming the opponent brings Breloom down to 1 HP (Focus Sash) and gets Spored, what will he/she do? Substitute does not work with 1 HP left -_-

Also, what is this combo's predictability on Breloom as opposed to on Jumpluff or Butterfree?
 
I use it as a lead too, and over the sash spore combo Id suggest switching the first turn if youre gonna get KOed and using toxic orb. You usually spore all setup leads and gyarados then sub, but if the lead is weavile or mence or something switch to a wall.
 
articuno1508 said:
But I'm using it as a lead. Assuming the opponent brings Breloom down to 1 HP (Focus Sash) and gets Spored, what will he/she do? Substitute does not work with 1 HP left -_-

Also, what is this combo's predictability on Breloom as opposed to on Jumpluff or Butterfree?
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your refering to a different set, the anti starter.
 
I'd be far more afraid of Agoston's Breloom tbh... spore, leech seed, sub and FP with toxic orb makes it absolutely deadly. It restores HP even in hail/ss, pretty much forces switches once it has subseed up, making it a perfect choice for any team, particularly with residual in play. Like Jirachi, I just can't not use it in my team, it's that useful.
 
Sash Breloom? I would just switch to my restalker, absorb the sleep, then sleep talk since I have a 66% chance of KOing your Breloom. Actually, my leads generally are faster then Breloom and have sub so I wouldn't even have to switch to my restalker. I would be more scared of the subseed Breloom then a sash Breloom.
 
It just depends what's on my team. Like Mekkah said, most have Seed Bomb, and a few have Mach Punch, so if I was using it at the moment, I'd switch in a Gengar. It's Immune to Focus/Mach Punch, and it resists Seed Bomb. Then I can HP Ice it to oblivion, or start setting up something while he switches.
 
Actually it more depends on wtf I let you spore. If it's useless, knowing you're at 1%, I'd probably just let it die. Next turn comes out Tyranitar/Hipowdow or w/e. If I have it, I'd most likely let Cresselia go into Breloom regardless if you have Spored or not, are at 1% or not.
 
it totally depends on the team i'm running, and on who you've spored. if i switched in a Sleep Talk Heracross into your Spore, for example, i'm banking on the 67% chance of destroying you with Sleep Talking Guts destruction.
 
Aeroblacktyl said:
Actually it more depends on wtf I let you spore. If it's useless, knowing you're at 1%, I'd probably just let it die. Next turn comes out Tyranitar/Hipowdow or w/e. If I have it, I'd most likely let Cresselia go into Breloom regardless if you have Spored or not, are at 1% or not.
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If you let it them die, then when you bring out T-tar or Hippo, they can just Spore you again and then die. You're then lying there waiting to get hit. Correct me if I'm wrong.
 
BAM_UR_DEAD said:
If you let it them die, then when you bring out T-tar or Hippo, they can just Spore you again and then die. You're then lying there waiting to get hit. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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I think he means that he would let Sandstorm from those two pokes finish off said Breloom with less than 1%.
 
Honchkrow won't like it if Breloom subs on the switch instead of sporing.

BAM_UR_DEAD said:
If you let it them die, then when you bring out T-tar or Hippo, they can just Spore you again and then die. You're then lying there waiting to get hit. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Well uh I guess he lets his TTar/Hippo take the sleep so sandstorm finishes off Breloom. Big risk if you ask me since basically he's letting Breloom take out two of his pokemon. Or maybe he was thinking of advance where sandstorm would activate before the turn ends.
 
I switch. After using Breloom, I've found that if you don't switch out, Breloom is going to KO a lot more. Breloom's power comes from being able to spore, and SubPunch (with STAB no less). If you keep your sleeping pokemon in, Breloom will Sub, then kill it, and Spore the next pokemon you bring out. This process just repeats until you switch out the sleeping pokemon.
 
Quiet Lurker said:
Honchkrow won't like it if Breloom subs on the switch instead of sporing.



Well uh I guess he lets his TTar/Hippo take the sleep so sandstorm finishes off Breloom. Big risk if you ask me since basically he's letting Breloom take out two of his pokemon. Or maybe he was thinking of advance where sandstorm would activate before the turn ends.
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This is what I meant, since Sandstream takes a turn to activate now. If Breloom FPs while you switch, T-tar is gonna die, and if it uses Seed Bomb (since it can't sub supposedly), it's gonna hurt both hard, probably 50% at least (maybe a bit less for Hippo).
 
It honestly depends on what I have out. If I have Ice Shard Manmoswine out, I'll stay in, but If I have Garchomp out, I'm gone.

I didn't mean to answer the poll at all, lol
 
I switch out, because of the whole Sub and respore thing. Plus with sleep clause that I usually play you aren't exactly allowed to Spore twice.

I'm suprised more Breloom don't run Leech Seed, then again my Celebi switching doesn't really care about any of the moves Breloom throws at it, but if you use it to absorb sleep it can't really be used to absorb Seed Bomb or FP at the same time, its on or the other.
 
BAM_UR_DEAD said:
If you let it them die, then when you bring out T-tar or Hippo, they can just Spore you again and then die. You're then lying there waiting to get hit. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Um...they're at 1%...Sandstorm would...you know....kind of prevent them from Sporing....

Corrected.
 
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