Best Bulk Up Receivers

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Hello, there. I've been reading up on Floatzel a bit lately, because it seems like a really cool, really useful Pokemon. Mainly, though, I'm interested in the "Kristy" set (Bulk Up, Baton Pass, Taunt, Waterfall). I've tested it out in a few battles on Shoddy, and when it works, it works. I've been able to sweep a couple (albeit probaly below-average) teams 6-0 passing a few Bulk Ups to an Agiligross, and at the very least, KristyGross usually takes out two or three Pokemon before going down. Bulk Up just plain rocks, and I can't believe I, until now, had been completely overlooking it in favour of passing things like Speed Boosts, Swords Dances, and Nasty Plots.

So, here's my question: What do you think would be some of the best receivers for a Bulk Up or two? I've obviously mentioned Metagross, but I've also considered Scizor and Machamp. Are there others who can really hurt the opponent's team with just one or two Bulk Ups? Any and all opinions are appreciated (although I'd also like a reason or two, please ^_^)
 
Arcanine. Laugh what you want but it has an 80 Base Power Priority move, it has Flare Blitz and can generally hit stuff hard and reasonably fast.
 
Gallade would be a good reciever, it already has high sdef and attack, and Bulk Up boosts his attack further, and makes him a better tank :)
Slap wish on on you're good to go (Or doesn't he get wish?)
 
If you've actually tried it then good, but I don't see Arcanine getting past Garchomp any time soon, which is what a good sweeper should not have a problem with.

EQ/MM/IP/Rock Cart Metagross@Leftovers is the poke I decided on when I used Kristy religiously a few months ago when I was actually playing. You want something that isn't going to take SE damage from the Grass and Electric attacks to which Floatzel is weak, which is why I put Tangrowth, Electivire and Weavile in my analysis when I wrote it before even using Floatzel. I don't think I ever tried any of them, though, and went straight to Metagross. After a single Bulk Up, Metagross can 336 HP, 607 Attack, 444 Defense and 404 Speed which can let it outpace Scarf Heracross. Scarf Garchomp may have 454 speed or whatever, but Metagross can still get there if it wants to. Garchomp is only doing 57-68% to Metagross after a Bulk Up if it's Scarved. A Donphan once did a pitiful 40% to Metagross with EQ when it tried to stop my sweep, which I found kind of funny considering Ice Punch was an easy 2HKO

I purposely didn't put Metagross in my Floatzel analysis because I wanted it to be my own little "secret"...I *am* allowed that after all, right? I think I've shared enough with you guys, lol
 
Roar on Swampert doesn't seem so useless now, although Taunt can potentially mess that plan up.
 
You can try Sharpedo...it really needs some staying power,it has good speed and sp.atk plus a 120atk.A almost gimmick one,but can work(good luck with that),specially in the rain.
Try Blaziken too...it has Overheat to put holes on those pesky physical tanks(hi,Skarm...oh,you too Tangrowth)and can BP for something you can't deal,agility too...and has 120atk plus 110sp.atk.
 
It may seem hypocritical given what I've said about my use (or lack thereof) of the three recipients I put in my analysis, but I didn't exactly have a choice because I wrote that in like July, so I am going to have to ask that people only weigh in with recipients they've tried. Things like Sharpedo fail even on paper since it is way too frail to get anywhere since it also can't boost its speed. By now all of us have an easy way of testing things, a reality we've tried to coax into your lines of thinking for a few months now.
 
Hitmontop with Revenge, Gallade come off as some of the most superior recipients.

Basically anything thats half sturdy with strong physical attack and special defense is a good candidate. Metagross isn't actually as optimal recipient as you'd think, fact it had to be an Agiligross says alot and if it wasn't it'd still be vulnerable on the special side.

Not saying it isn't a good recipient but there are stuff which immediately become threatening without having to statup again, its about getting your moves off quicker and saving turns.
 
When I was using a Bulk Up passer, I usually passed them to Snorlax. With his astronomical special durability, he was pretty hard to hurt after a few psuedo-Curses and that massive attack stat caused a lot of hurt. Unfortunately, he was still easily stopped by things like Skarmory's Whirlwind, Dusknoir's WoW and Breloom's Spore.

Medicham's always an ideal candidate for stat boosts, but he would require you to pass a Salac boost too.

And seriously...Sharpedo is not getting anywhere with Bulk Ups. He's a hit and run Pokemon, and even with 6 Bulk Ups, you're fucked if any faster Pokemon with a special attack comes out (40 base Sp Def and a max speed of 317 is asking for Starmie, Infernape etc to put you down).
 
Jumpman16 said:
It may seem hypocritical given what I've said about my use (or lack thereof) of the three recipients I put in my analysis, but I didn't exactly have a choice because I wrote that in like July, so I am going to have to ask that people only weigh in with recipients they've tried. Things like Sharpedo fail even on paper since it is way too frail to get anywhere since it also can't boost its speed. By now all of us have an easy way of testing things, a reality we've tried to coax into your lines of thinking for a few months now.
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Well,i said it was gimmick:happybrain:
Aerodactyl can work since it does not even need speed(and if you want,you have agility and rock polish)and its best than using curse(i read it somewhere...)
And Forsety said the best pokes...i was thinking of someone with good sp.def and attack,but all that was coming in my mind was Snorlax...and it has curse,so why bother?

Oh,Tyranitar is one of the best.2 bulk ups and you have a bulky hard hitter with you(Dragon Dance?Yes!!!)
 
I think Aerodactyl has good stats for it, especially if Sandstorm is in play. If only it covered up Kristy's Electric and Grass weakness...
 
Well... there are a lot of guys who have decent Sp. Def, good physical attack, and nice speed. The guys I'd test are Weavile (while frail on the physical side, it survives decently powered Special attacks), Lapras, Tentacruel, Muk, T-Tar (due to sandstorm boosting rock Sp. Def), Gyarados, Gardevoir and Gallade (with wish to gain back HP, as well as EVs to survive a Draco Meteor), Heracross... and of course, the Hitmon family.
 
On my mono-water team, I paired it up with Azumarill. After a couple of Bulk Ups, STAB priority attack resisted only by water and grass = win. It's also kinda sturdy, with 100/80/80 Defenses. Too bad he shares Floatzel's exact weaknesses, but I thought of the idea for a mono-water team, so it would be impossible not to.

Dragontamer said:
Well... there are a lot of guys who have decent Sp. Def, good physical attack, and nice speed. The guys I'd test are Weavile (while frail on the physical side, it survives decently powered Special attacks), Lapras, Tentacruel, Muk, T-Tar (due to sandstorm boosting rock Sp. Def), Gyarados, Gardevoir and Gallade (with wish to gain back HP, as well as EVs to survive a Draco Meteor), Heracross... and of course, the Hitmon family.
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Uh, Gallade, Heracross, and the Hitmons learn Bulku Up by themselves. Why would they need Floatzel? ^_^;
 
Electivire. Just... Electivire. I bred a Kristy Floatzel and specific Electivire just for that purpose: to pair them together. Just hope like hell for an electric attack after you taunt the phazer, and pass out to E-Vire who gets a speed boost from it! I ran... Mild, 270 speed / max sp. a / rest in attack w/ a Life Orb and HP Grass / Thunderbolt / Cross Chop / Ice Punch. T-Bolt takes down Skarm in one hit, HP Grass downs Swampert most of the time, Ice punch for dragons and Cross chop for rocks. Kick ass!
 
Anti said:
Electivire. Just... Electivire. I bred a Kristy Floatzel and specific Electivire just for that purpose: to pair them together. Just hope like hell for an electric attack after you taunt the phazer, and pass out to E-Vire who gets a speed boost from it! I ran... Mild, 270 speed / max sp. a / rest in attack w/ a Life Orb and HP Grass / Thunderbolt / Cross Chop / Ice Punch. T-Bolt takes down Skarm in one hit, HP Grass downs Swampert most of the time, Ice punch for dragons and Cross chop for rocks. Kick ass!
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Holy shit man, that is practically the exact set I run with Floatzel!!!! :cloud: No one can complain about Vire's move pool, and when it receives the attack passes plus the Special Attack EV investment, I've swept teams even without a speed boost!

But when I do get that boost, I just laugh out loud..

For other recipients of Bulk Up passes, I've used Metagross with much success, and Dragonite. Dragonite has good defenses, great HP, an incredible move pool, and with correct EVs, you have yourself an amazing tank. Dragon + Ground + Fire is resisted by none.
 
I used Kristy with Electrivire for awhile on Shoddy. Works quite well if you can lure a Starmie's Thunderbolt or something like that, and Electrivire with +1 def can actually survive a random earthquake.
 
I'd rather have something that recieves be able to OHKO Skarmory or Taunt or something. Granted you're still doing a shit load of damage to it as it WWs you out, but Floatzel can only take so many hits even after Bulk Up that chances are you won't get to attempt it again.
 
salamence or garchomp with a yache would be very good recievers of a bulk up or two. the bulk up raises defence enough so no ohysical attack will kill them while the attack boost is like a dragon dance (no speed however) or even a swords dance after two. the yache berry also prevents them from dying to any special attack in one shot as well. so pretty much, you kill their counter then rape the rest of the team.

a choice scarf garchomp would also be deadly after two bulk ups. assuming the steels are out of the way you could run over the team with very fast outrages/ dragon claws
 
Aeroblacktyl said:
I'd rather have something that recieves be able to OHKO Skarmory or Taunt or something. Granted you're still doing a shit load of damage to it as it WWs you out, but Floatzel can only take so many hits even after Bulk Up that chances are you won't get to attempt it again.
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Floatzel can taunt IIRC.
 
Lou Cypher said:
Arcanine. Laugh what you want but it has an 80 Base Power Priority move, it has Flare Blitz and can generally hit stuff hard and reasonably fast.
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I would rather have Scizor' tech Quick Attack.

Pass to Scizor, swords dance, then sweep the entire team with tech boosted Pursuits and Quick Attacks.
 
Skarmory isn't coming into Floatzel, it's coming in after you either already Baton Pass it, after you've killed something, on an Earthquake, or as you're Baton Passing. Now the recipient is what I'd like to stop said Skarmory.
 
I'm surprised nobody's mentioned Cradily. With its ability (Suction Cups - can't be roared out or anything) and decent defense and great special defense in Sandstorm, a couple Bulk Ups will do wonders once you get rid of anything that can still wall its Rock Slides (like Skarm). Confuse Ray works wonders with it as well, and you can Toxic anything like Swampert/Gliscor that can wall you a bit. I've been able to take out a couple full teams by just sleeping something with Uxie and then U-turning to Floatzel to BU and pass to Cradily.
 
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