Resource ADV OU Speed Tiers

McMeghan · Feb 3, 2020

Wanted to make a proper and pretty thread for that.

Format is as follows: Stat number - Pokemon / EVInvestNature(if any) / Boosts (if any).
Examples: a fully invested Timid Swampert will be Swampert / 252+, a Metagross without investment will be Metagross / 0, and a Brave Snorlax will be Snorlax / 0-.
Keep in mind that HP Fighting, HP Fire and HP Rock among the notable one will always reduce your speed IV.

524 -

Metagross / 252+ / +2
492 -

Salamence / 252+ / +1
486 -

Tyranitar / 252+ / +2
478 -

Metagross / 252 / +2
448 -

Salamence / 252 / +1
442 -

Heracross / 252+ / +1 | Tyranitar / 252 / +2
430 -

Gyarados / 252+ / +1
409 -

Smeargle / 252+/ +1
403 -

Heracross / 252 / +1
394 -

Aerodactyl / 252+ | Jolteon / 252+
391-

Gyarados / 252 / +1
372 -

Dugtrio / 252+
364 -

Tyranitar / 252+ / +1
361 -

Raikou / 252+ | Starmie / 252+
360 -

Swampert / 252+ / +1
359 -

Aerodactyl / 252 | Jolteon / 252
350 -

Gengar / 252+
339 -

Dugtrio / 252
331 -

Tyranitar / 252 / +1
329 -

Raikou / 252 | Starmie / 252
328 -

Gengar / 252
317 -

Jynx / 252+ | Houndoom / 252+
306 -

Moltres / 252+
299 -

Heracross / 252+ | Suicune / 252+
289 -

Houndoom / 252
287 -

Gyarados / 252+
284 -

Venusaur / 252+
279 -

Moltres / 252
273 -

Claydol / 252+ | Smeargle / 252+
269 -

Heracross / 252 | Suicune / 252
266 -

Starmie / 0
262 -

Breloom / 252+ | Cloyster / 252+ | Magneton / 252+ | Metagross / 252+ | Skarmory / 252+
261 -

Gyarados / 252
259 -

Venusaur / 252
256 -

Gengar / 0
251 -

Vaporeon / 252+
249 -

Claydol / 252
243 -

Tyranitar / 252+
240 -

Swampert / 252+ | Weezing / 252+
239 -

Breloom / 252 | Cloyster / 252 | Magneton / 252 | Metagross / 252 | Skarmory / 252
236 -

Celebi / 0 | Flygon / 0 | Jirachi / 0 | Salamence / 0 | Zapdos / 0
229 -

Vaporeon / 252
221 -

Tyranitar / 252
219 -

Swampert / 252 | Weezing / 252
212 -

Flygon / 0- | Jirachi / 0-
209 -

Blissey / 252 | Machamp / 252
207 -

Marowak / 252+
206 -

Suicune / 0
198 -

Milotic / 0
186 -

Claydol / 0
176 -

Cloyster / 0 | Magneton / 0 | Metagross / 0 | Skarmory / 0
167 -

Claydol / 0-
166 -

Vaporeon / 0
158 -

Cloyster / 0- | Metagross / 0- | Tyranitar / 0
156 -

Porygon2 / 0 | Swampert / 0 | Weezing 0
146 -

Blissey / 0
142 -

Tyranitar / 0-
140 -

Porygon2 / 0- | Swampert / 0- | Weezing 0-
136 -

Hariyama / 0 | Regice / 0
122 -

Regice / 0-
116 -

Forretress / 0
104 -

Forretress / 0-
96 -

Snorlax / 0 | Steelix / 0
86 -

Snorlax / 0-

wyc2333 · Apr 21, 2020

some quick thoughts

442: jolly salac hera may not exist. nature of salac hera in dex is adamant.

359: modest jolt may not exist.

299: idk whether 252 cele exists or not. offensive cm, sd, and sub sets may run 300 to outspeed mence.

256: 0 spe gar may not exist. the slowest gar i've seen is 300 spe so that it outspeeds some variants of mence, gon, and zap.

236 212: the slowest gon i've seen is 244 spe to outspeed 252+ ttar.

229: offensive vap may run a timid nature

136: 0 instead of 0- regice may not exist bc its atk, def, satk, and sdef is more important than spe.

Yak Attack · Jun 11, 2022

Hello, I've been working on a damage calc for ADV, and in the process, I made a speed tier doc. They use the RoA sample teams and linear's team/set dumps. I hope you can get some use out of them.

gnore · Mar 9, 2024

I made a named function in Google Sheets that, assuming min 30 IVs, returns the sum of the 31st IV & converted EVs out of 64 that yields a speed that creeps the speed to beat, given the base speed & stage, & if a +nature is needed. It identifies where the target stands among these ranges & @ the given stage:

_00 (0 EVs, 30 IVs)

_01 (0 EVs, 31 IVs)

_64 (252 EVs, 31 IVs)

_G (252+ EVs, 31 IVs)

So to translate the output, EVs are (output-1)*4 if 31 IV or output*4 if 30 IV.

_SC(to_beat,base,stage)=

let(tb,to_beat,b,base,st,stage,
mult,ifs(st<0,2/(2-st),st>0,(2+st)/2,TRUE,1),m,mult,
assume,b*2+5+30,a,assume,
_01,a+1,
_64,a+1+63,
greatest,int((a+1+63)*1.1),_G,greatest

ifs(

and(tb>=_01,tb<_64),
1+tb-a,

and(tb>=_64,tb<_G),
roundup((1+tb)/1.1)-a&"+",

tb<_01,0,

tb<int(_01*m),
if(st>0,"+",)&st&" 0",

and(tb>=int(_01*m),tb<int(_64*m)),
if(st>0,"+",)&st&" "&roundup((1+tb)/m)-a,

and(tb>=_64*m,tb<_G*m),
if(st>0,"+",)&st&" "&roundup(roundup((1+tb)/m)/1.1)-a&"+",

TRUE,))

IAmControversial · Nov 18, 2024

Just wondering: Why does the Smogon set for mixed attacking Metagross have 4 Spe EVs, and a -Spe nature
(The set in question:)
Metagross @ Leftovers
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 Spe
Quiet Nature
- Psychic
- Hidden Power Fire
- Meteor Mash
- Explosion

gnore · Nov 20, 2024

IAmControversial said:
Just wondering: Why does the Smogon set for mixed attacking Metagross have 4 Spe EVs, and a -Spe nature
(The set in question:)
Metagross @ Leftovers
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 Spe
Quiet Nature
- Psychic
- Hidden Power Fire
- Meteor Mash
- Explosion

since hp fire drops speed, 4 Spe EVs lets you keep the speed tie with other -Spe base 70s who run a 31 IV Spe

IAmControversial · Dec 5, 2024

gnore said:
since hp fire drops speed, 4 Spe EVs lets you keep the speed tie with other -Spe base 70s who run a 31 IV Spe

Okay, thanks!

Resource ADV OU Speed Tiers

McMeghan

Dreamcatcher

wyc2333

A=X+Y+Z Y: Hard Work

Yak Attack

gnore

IAmControversial

gnore

IAmControversial