A boy's quest to win Stacker.

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Yesterday, to celebrate the end of my atrociously stressful Junior year in High School, I decided to join my brother and a group of two friends in spending the day at Six Flags Great America (Gurnee, IL). We all had lots of fun riding the roller coasters such as Raging Bull and going down the water slides in the Hurricane Harbor water park, but the highlight of the day, at least for me, occurred when we took a break from the excitement at one of the arcades within the Park. I just got a nice paycheck from my job so I was willing to spend quite a bit. We participated in the obligatory DDR and Shoot'em up games, but the prize winning games particularly got my attention. I immediately avoided any of the games involving cranes remembering my past experience with them, but there was one game called "Stacker" that seemed to reward prizes based on skill rather than luck.

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Yes, the bright red decor and the ditzy woman voice coming from the machine were good selling points, but the main things that allured me to play were the prizes -- Not some dumb stuffed animals, but iPods, DS lites, PSPs, and other things that appealed to my geeky side. The cost was one dollar to play, so I figured... why not?

If you have never played stacker, here is how it works. The machine has a grid layout with a group of flashing blocks moving back and forth straight across the bottom row. You then press the button to stop the blocks from moving, and then blocks begin moving across in a similar manner in the row above. Basically, you need to align the blocks perfectly on the grid until you reach the top and claim your prize. Of course, the game gets more difficult as it progresses, the three blocks you start off with quickly shorten to one and they also move faster and faster up each row. About three quarters from the top, there is also a "Minor" prize option that you can win if you decide to stop playing, but it is usually a big piece of crap -- usually worth less than twenty cents. If you want to win that shiny iPod, you have to stack all of the blocks. But going from a $0.20 prize to a $300 prize in just four more rows? How hard could it be?

I immediately went to the change machine and got $5 in quarters. I then chucked the quarters into the machine and began playing. It was easy at first, as I managed to stack my blocks perfectly up to the minor prize, and by accident, I ended up not continuing and got a shitty glow in the dark key chain. My friends urged me to continue, so I put another four quarters in and tried again... I made it to the minor prize again but knew better and decided to continue...

Now, at this point, the game became much more difficult, but still easy enough for a person with decent motor skills like myself and made it to the very last row... THIS WAS IT. One more button press would determine if that dollar would get me a shiny new iPod or absolutely nothing. Hesitant, I watched the block skid across the row extremely fast, but I was still confident I could follow it. "ALMOST THERE!" the machine teased. I then slammed the button, and to my awe, I was ONE SPACE AWAY from lining up my blocks.

I was frustrated, but I had three more tries, so I kept on going. My friends were cheering me on, but the results were the same every time... I would reach the VERY last row and always miss it by one space. My brother concluded at this point that the game was rigged, but I didn't care -- I was addicted, so I put in another truckload of quarters...

Hax!
Seriously?
DAMN!

What the asshole?
FUCKBALLS!

As you can see, I was beginning to get really mad. WHY WAS THAT LAST BLOCK ELUDING ME? I was not only missing, but I was only missing that last block, and always missing by one fucking space! What a tease! I really should have given up, but I continued to try --- At this point I already had a large group of people crowding around me who were greatly impressed by my determination. Either that or they were just there to balk at my apparent addiction, frustration, and stupidity.

Twenty dollars later, I finally decided to call it quits. My self-esteem was greatly reduced and I was not in the mood to do anything. I felt like a complete dumbass for spending that much of my hard earned cash on an apparently rigged game. But was it really? This video says otherwise. I really don't know too much about arcades in general and whether machines are rigged, but does anyone else here have interesting things to share about their experiences with games such as "Stacker" in the past? Is that top block programmed to miss until the machine makes enough money? Or am I overestimating my hand to eye coordination?
 
Well, a while back on Braniac, there was a thing all about how arcade machines are rigged to only be successful once every now and again, to ensure they get enough profit. Like, maybe 1 in 20 tried will have a greater chance/any chance.
They said that the trick was to watch it for a bit (maybe even take notes if you're dedicated) and see when people win at it.
 
Yeah, it's just like a slot machine in a casino. One person might walk up and win $100,000 on their first crank, but hundreds of people played that game before them without winning. Those machines rack up millions with minimal payout.
 
With prizes like Ipods and DSes, then it must take a loads of people losing before it gives away a piece of technology. I never trust anything that looks too good to be true. If a person with decent motor skills could get the top prize in just a few goes, then the system would be loosing loads of money. Nah, I don't trust those things.
 
These things are rigged. The aspect of "skill" involved in these games is a fallacy. They only give out prizes when the machine has made enough money. They should be classified as "gambling" and banned because of how misleading they are.
 
I did try Stacker a few times...fortunately (I suppose) I did not have a lot of money on me to begin with, so my addiction was cut short.

I never really get into those kind of games. Like someone said if the prizes look damn good I try to avoid them.

Heh, this kind of reminds me of back in the days when I would go to Chuck E Cheese and try and win at the games that offered oodles of tickets.
 
I used to work at an arcade (for 2 years) and i would always watch people playing stacker to see if it was rigged or not.

The most amazing thing was watching it give away two ipods within a 20 minute interval. I used to think it was just programmed to let someone win once it made enough profit. Now, I'm sure its just based on odds, like you could win 10 ipods in a row but it would be impossibly hard.

And to the person who said this is gambling, I think the fact that you aren't getting a direct cash payout is the reason its not gambling per se.
 
After youtubeing for a bit I am utterly convinced it skips over the winning row.

EDIT: Watch this video, not the blury one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftIWTKZCCtg

When you stack a row on the very side it is incredibly easy to see just how much the game cheats.

EDIT2: Since the machine is obviously set to be able to hit the middle after a certain ammount of money has been put in I would build a stack on the very side and use that to check if it is actually possible to win. If so then continue playing until you win, if not then come back the next day or preferably a while longer.
 
Oh, god, I spent nearly 100 dollars of my parents money on this game on vacation once (lol). It is super addicting, and I made it to the major prize row more than enough times to know that it most definitely does skip. I, too, got a bunch of random kids watching me. Then, the next morning, I go in, and after just a few tries (4-5), I won the Major Prize, somehow. I was in such awe that I took my copy of Sonic Riders (accidentally hit it instead of the iPod Shuffle ¬_¬) and just walked out. Unfortunately, it being early morning, nobody saw, not a single person. . . oh well, 'twas fun.

Stupid machine.
 
I don't know whether the machines are rigged or not to skip, but I know damn well they are rigged not to pay out.

I was on a school trip to england with my class, we happened across a place with all these games, and this one caught my eye. It looked like a game of skill, so I put a pound in and gave it a go. Lo and behold, I managed to get all the bricks lined up, picked my prize (80gig Ipod), and nothing happened. The prize should have come out, but nothing. So I foolishly did the exact same thing again, but this time picked a psp. Nothing came out of the machine.

At this point, I started complaining to the people working there. They admitted that there was a small glitch in the machine that 'randomly' stopped it giving out prizes now and then. They did refund me my two pounds sterling though.
 
^We don't like the Irish round here.

And the best machines are the ones with a pit of cuddly animals, and a huge claw with which you have to grab one. 100% skill.
 
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