Done A Bee (Sticky Web Lead Ribombee) [QC 2/2] [GP 1/1]

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[SET]
name: Sticky Web Lead
move 1: Sticky Web
move 2: Imprison
move 3: Moonblast / Skill Swap
move 4: Stun Spore / Moonblast
item: Focus Sash
ability: Shield Dust
nature: Timid
evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe or 208 HP / 76 Def / 224 Spe
tera type: Steel

[SET COMMENTS]
* Ribombee sets itself apart from other Sticky Web leads thanks to its excellent matchup against all Sticky Web leads. In addition to this, Ribombee has a valuable Speed tier and great ability in Shield Dust. Its Speed tier allows it to outspeed common Taunt users such as Arceus formes and Yveltal. Thanks to Shield Dust, Ribombee can stay in against Smeargle to serve as a status absorber for teammates. However, since Ribombee is unable to deny entry hazards from Deoxys-S and Glimmora leads, it is a niche anti-Sticky Web lead on hyper offense teams.
* Imprison allows Ribombee to prevent leads such as Smeargle and Shuckle from setting Sticky Web. Skill Swap allows Ribombee to bypass Magic Bounce from Mega Diancie in order to set Sticky Web. In addition, it also provides utility in stealing Primordial Sea and Desolate Land from Primal Kyogre and Primal Groudon, respectively, allowing teammates such as Zacian-C to tank an Origin Pulse and Yveltal to take Heat Crash better.
* Stun Spore is a nuisance for the majority of the tier such as Arceus formes, Yveltal, and Ho-Oh due to Ribombee's Speed tier. It is especially valuable against Ho-Oh, as it prevents Ho-Oh from freely Defogging. In addition, Stun Spore cripples threats such as Zacian-C and Eternatus, preventing them from using Ribombee to easily set up. Moonblast is an option to allow Ribombee to KO Smeargle without risking status for a switch-in. In addition, Moonblast directly threatens Yveltal, Giratina-O, and Dragon Dance Zygarde.
* The given EV spread is for Moonblast sets and allows Ribombee to outspeed all base 120s while maximizing Moonblast damage. For example, it can always 2HKO physical Giratina-O. The secondary EV spread also allows Ribombee to outspeed all base 120s while the defensive investment turns Ferrothorn's Power Whip, Dragon Dance Zygarde's Thousand Arrows, and Fezandipiti's Alluring Voice into 4HKOs.
* Tera Steel allows Ribombee to block Mortal Spin from Smeargle and Glimmora in order to maintain Sticky Web. However, since the use cases are rare, Ribombee should not usually Terastallize. It is also wise to wait for Smeargle to reveal Mortal Spin before Terastallizing, as sets carrying Rapid Spin will cause Ribombee to waste the Terastallization.
* Ribombee is an excellent anti-Sticky Web choice thanks to its excellent matchup against Smeargle and Shuckle. However, its lead matchups against threats such as Mega Diancie, Deoxys-S, and Glimmora are more challenging. If Ribombee has a bad lead matchup, such as against Deoxys-S or Grimmsnarl, it can wait to set Sticky Web later thanks to its excellent Speed tier. Ribombee can also be preserved if it survives after setting Sticky Web. This is useful so that it can serve as a sack to bring a teammate in or used to revenge kill threats such as Yveltal.
* Pokemon that appreciate Sticky Web support such as Zacian-C, wallbreaker Primal Kyogre, specially offensive Yveltal, and Chi-Yu are excellent teammates. Zacian-C can easily run through bulkier offense teams and appreciates the ability to outspeed opposing Zacian-Cs. Primal Kyogre is able to greatly threaten Arceus formes and Eternatus thanks to Sticky Web support. Specially offensive Yveltal appreciates being able to outspeed checks such as Zacian-C and Arceus formes. In return, Yveltal provides devastating breaking power and an unmatched ability to keep Sticky Web. Chi-Yu greatly gains from Sticky Web support slowing down checks such as Arceus-Dark and -Fairy. In exchange, Chi-Yu provides the most devastating wallbreaking power in the tier and greatly aids the matchup versus stall teams. Extreme Killer Arceus and Dragon Dance Arceus-Ground are both excellent teammates for Ribombee. Arceus is able to blow through walls such as Primal Groudon and Zygarde with Double Edge while soft-checking Marshadow with Sticky Web support. Arceus-Ground is an excellent answer to Zacian-C and Double Dance Primal Groudon, which can easily threaten to reverse sweep; in addition, it also threatens Ho-Oh.
* Due to Ribombee's inability to deny entry hazards, Pokemon that are weak to Stealth Rock such as Chi-Yu and Mega Salamence should be picked sparingly as teammates. The exception to this is Yveltal, as its ability to keep Sticky Web up is too valuable. Eternatus is extremely valuable as a teammate due to its ability to absorb Toxic Spikes, as they can cripple hyper offense teammates such as Arceus, Primal Groudon, and Primal Kyogre. Extreme Killer Arceus can easily set up on Ribombee, so Marshadow and Zacian-C are appreciated in order to check it. Although Ribombee can annoy Ho-Oh with Stun Spore, it cannot prevent Ho-Oh from Defogging, so Pokemon that threaten Ho-Oh out such as Meteor Beam Eternatus or can Taunt it such as Tera Fire specifically offensive Yveltal are appreciated.

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Anchor9 said:
Think this is QC ready. If someone has a spread for non-Moonblast tell me.
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208 HP / 76 Def / 224 Spe (Timid)

This outspeeds non (edit, oops, it does cover +Spe ones as well) +Spe nature base 120 foes like Arceus-Ground, Palkia-O and Mega Salamence, while also reaching these benchmarks on the defensive side:

0 Atk Ferrothorn Power Whip vs. 208 HP / 76 Def Ribombee: 83-98 (26.5 - 31.3%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
216+ Atk Zygarde Thousand Arrows vs. 208 HP / 76 Def Ribombee: 88-104 (28.1 - 33.2%) -- guaranteed 4HKO (Dragon Dance Zygarde)
0 SpA Fezandipiti Alluring Voice vs. 208 HP / 0 SpD Ribombee: 87-103 (27.7 - 32.9%) -- guaranteed 4HKO

If you're fine with this let me know, so I can then proceed on a proper QC check once a segment is added on the analysis summarizing the details.
 
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Good job! Not too much to do, but ping me so I can stamp
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[SET]
name: Sticky Web Lead
move 1: Sticky Web
move 2: Imprison
move 3: Moonblast / Skill Swap
move 4: Stun Spore / Moonblast
item: Focus Sash
ability: Shield Dust
nature: Timid
evs: 208 HP / 76 Def / 224 Spe or 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe Switch the order. Given we can't speedcreep it is better having max speed as the importable
tera type: Steel

[SET COMMENTS]
* Ribombee sets itself apart from other Sticky Web leads thanks to its valuable Speed tier, great ability in Shield Dust, and excellent matchupreword this as its niche is primarily completely denying Webs into opposing Sticky Web leads such as Smeargle and Shuckle. Its Speed tier allows it to outspeed common Taunt users such as Arceus formes and Yveltal. Thanks to Shield Dust, Ribombee can stay in against Smeargle to serve as a status absorber for teammates. However, since Ribombee is unable to deny opposing entry hazards from like Smeargle and loses to Deoxys-S leadscould mention Mega Diancie or Glimmora as its niche is denying webs so Smeargle is incorrect, it is a niche anti-Sticky Web lead on hyper offense teams.
* Imprison allows Ribombee to prevent opposing leads such as Smeargle and Shucke from setting Sticky Web. Skill Swap allows Ribombee to bypass Magic Bounce from Mega Diancie in order to set Sticky Web. In addition, it also provides utility in stealing Primordial Sea and Desolate Land from Primal Kyogre and Primal Groudon respectively.
* Stun Spore cripples threats such as Zacian-C and Eternatus, preventing them from using Ribombee to easily setup. In general, Stun Spore is a nuisance for the majority of the tier such as Arceus formes, Yveltal, and Ho-Oh due to Ribombee's Speed tier. Moonblast is an option to allow Ribombee to KO Smeargle without risking status for a switch-in. I'd switch these sentences as Stun Spore annoying Ho-Oh and preventing it from freely Defogging is big In addition, it directly threatens Yveltal, Giratina-O, and Zygarde with? I'm assuming Moonblast, but I'd also clarify that you're talking about DD Zygarde.
* The given EV spread allows Ribombee to outspeed base 120 Speed foes without a Speed boosting nature such as Arceus formes and Palkia-O. In addition the defensive investment turns Ferrothorn's Power Whip, Dragon Dance Zygarde's Thousand Arrows, and Fezandipiti's Alluring Voice into 4HKOs. The secondary EV spread is for Moonblast sets, allowing Ribombee to outspeed all base 120 Speed foes while maximizing Moonblast damage.
* Tera Steel allows Ribombee to block Mortal Spin from Smeargle and Glimmora in order to maintain Sticky Web. However, since the use cases are rare, Ribombee should not usually use Tera. It is worth mentioning that Smeargle can viably run Rapid Spin which makes this risky, but it isn't bad to tera against Glimm.
* Ribombee best fits on hyper offense teams, especially ones that seek to approve the matchup against opposing Sticky Web teams. If Ribombee has a bad lead matchup, such as against Deoxys-S or Grimmsnarl, it can wait to set Sticky Web until later thanks to its excellent Speed tier. Ribombee can also be preserved in order to revenge kill threats such as Yveltal if it survives after setting Sticky Web. This bullet could do a bit of a redo. It should cover Ribombee's matchups with other HO leads (sticky web lead implicitly implies it is a HO mon so no need to mention that) and hazard removal. Then other stuff it can do in matches where it is preserved (go into why you'd do this).
* Pokemon that appreciate Sticky Web support such as Zacian-C, wallbreaker Primal Kyogre, specially offensive Yveltal, and Chi-Yu Ultra Necrozma are excellent teammates what roles do these mons fill and how do they benefit from webs?. Due to Ribombee's inability to deny opposing entry hazards, Pokemon that are weak to Stealth Rock such as Chi-Yu and Mega Salamence are not preferred as teammates, with the exception of Yveltal. Eternatus is nearly mandatory as a teammate in order to absorb Toxic Spikes. Not sure if I agree with the last sentence as I view Eternatus more as a good teammate than mandatory.
* Arceuswhich formes? Extreme Killer or Calm Mind? can easily setup on Ribombee, so Marshadow is appreciated in order to check it.Zacian-C does this (presuming you're talking about Ekiller). Also talk about the benefits Exteme Killer Arceus and Arceus-Ground each bring to webs structures. Ribombee cannot prevent Ho-Oh from Defogging, so Pokemon that threaten it such as Zacian-C(?) Ho-Oh is not likely to be in +1 Blade range, Meteor Beam Eternatus, and Tera Fire specially offensive Yveltal are appreciated. It is worth mentioning that Stun Spore irritates it and the teammates should be more in the context of scaring it out in the case of Eternatus or preventing it with Taunt in the case of Yveltal.

[SET CREDITS]
Set(s) by:
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Written by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/anchor9.652323/
Quality checked by:
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bumboclaat Rearranged the last two bullets so that first one is teammates that appreciate Sticky Web support and the second one is teammates that help against Ribombee checks.
 
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[SET]
name: Sticky Web Lead
move 1: Sticky Web
move 2: Imprison
move 3: Moonblast / Skill Swap
move 4: Stun Spore / Moonblast
item: Focus Sash
ability: Shield Dust
nature: Timid
evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe or 208 HP / 76 Def / 224 Spe
tera type: Steel

[SET COMMENTS]
* Ribombee sets itself apart from other Sticky Web leads thanks to its excellent matchup into all opposing Sticky Web leads. In addition to this, Ribombee has a valuable Speed tier and great ability in Shield Dust. Its Speed tier allows it to outspeed common Taunt users such as Arceus formes and Yveltal. Thanks to Shield Dust, Ribombee can stay in against Smeargle to serve as a status absorber for teammates. However, since Ribombee is unable to deny opposing entry hazards from Deoxys-S and Glimmora leads, it is a niche anti-Sticky Web lead on hyper offense teams.
* Imprison allows Ribombee to prevent opposing leads such as Smeargle and Shucke Shuckle from setting Sticky Web. Skill Swap allows Ribombee to bypass Magic Bounce from Mega Diancie in order to set Sticky Web. In addition, it also provides utility in stealing Primordial Sea and Desolate Land from Primal Kyogre and Primal Groudon respectively to what exactly? You'd want to go over the benefit for its allies of sacking Ribombee after that as it doesn't benefit itself directly.
* Stun Spore is a nuisance for the majority of the tier such as Arceus formes, Yveltal, and Ho-Oh due to Ribombee's Speed tier. It is especially valuable against Ho-Oh, as this prevents Ho-Oh from freely Defogging. In addition, Stun Spore cripples threats such as Zacian-C and Eternatus, preventing them from using Ribombee to easily setup. Moonblast is an option to allow Ribombee to KO Smeargle without risking status for a switch-in. In addition, Moonblast directly threatens Yveltal, Giratina-O, and Dragon Dance Zygarde.
* The given EV spread is for Moonblast sets, allowing Ribombee to outspeed all base 120 Speed foes while maximizing Moonblast damage note down that this enables to always 2HKO physical utility Giratina-O. The secondary EV spread allows Ribombee to outspeed base 120 Speed foes without a Speed boosting nature actually it also outspeeds those with a positive nature, my bad, rephrase the paragraphs accordingly, especially as then this isn't really a niche the default spread has over this one such as Arceus formes and Palkia-O. In addition the defensive investment turns Ferrothorn's Power Whip, Dragon Dance Zygarde's Thousand Arrows, and Fezandipiti's Alluring Voice into 4HKOs.
* Tera Steel allows Ribombee to block Mortal Spin from Smeargle and Glimmora in order to maintain Sticky Web. However, since the use cases are rare, Ribombee should not usually use Tera. It is also wise to wait for Smeargle to reveal Mortal Spin before using Tera, as sets carrying Rapid Spin will cause Ribombee to waste its Tera.
* Ribombee is an excellent anti-Sticky Web choice thanks to its excellent matchup against Smeargle and Shuckle. However, its lead matchup against threats such as Mega Diancie, Deoxys-S, and Glimmora are more challenging. If Ribombee has a bad lead matchup, such as against Deoxys-S or Grimmsnarl, it can wait to set Sticky Web until later thanks to its excellent Speed tier. Ribombee can also be preserved if it survives after setting Sticky Web. This is useful so that it can serve as a sack to bring a teammate in or used to revenge kill threats such as Yveltal.
* Pokemon that appreciate Sticky Web support such as Zacian-C, wallbreaker Primal Kyogre, specially offensive Yveltal, and Chi-Yu are excellent teammates. Zacian-C can easily run through more bulky offens teams and appreciates the ability to outspeed opposing Zacian-Cs. Primal Kyogre is able to greatly threaten Arceus formes and Eternatus thanks to Sticky Web support. Specially offensive Yveltal appreciates being able to outspeed checks such as Zacian-C and Arceus formes. In return, Yveltal provides devestating breaking power and an unmatched ability to keep Sticky Web. Chi-Yu greatly gains from Sticky Web support slowing down checks such as Arceus-Dark and Arceus-Fairy. In exchange, Chi-Yu provides the most devestating wallbreaking power in the tier and greatly aids the matchup versus stall teams. Extreme Killer Arceus and Dragon Dance Arceus-Ground are both excellent teammates for Ribombee. Arceus is able to blow through walls such as Primal Groudon and Zygarde with Double Edge while soft checking Marshadow with Sitcky Web support. Arceus-Ground is an excellent answer to Zacian-C and Double Dance Primal Groudon, who can easily threaten to reverse sweep. In addition it also threatens Ho-Oh.
* Due to Ribombee's inability to deny opposing entry hazards, Pokemon that are weak to Stealth Rock such as Chi-Yu and Mega Salamence should be picked sparingly as teammates, with the exception of Yveltal as...?. Eternatus is an extremely valuable as a teammate due to its ability to absorb Toxic Spikes elaborate on how this is notable, namely offense being quite hindered by such entry hazard otherwise. Extreme Killer Arceus can easily setup on Ribombee, so Marshadow and Zacian-C are appreciated in order to check it. Although Ribombee can annoy Ho-Oh with Stun Spore, it cannot prevent Ho-Oh from Defogging, so Pokemon that threaten it out such as Meteor Beam Eternatus or Taunt it such as Tera Fire specifically offensive Yveltal are appreciated.

[SET CREDITS]
Written by:
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Quality checked by:
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Set(s) by:
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Barely any of the check was applied, notably missing the act of clarifying some sections that aren't too intuitive for those not into the tier, please read carefully and try again, let me know if there's anything you need further clarification on.
 
[Insert Bee Movie quote]

[SET]
name: Sticky Web Lead
move 1: Sticky Web
move 2: Imprison
move 3: Moonblast / Skill Swap
move 4: Stun Spore / Moonblast
item: Focus Sash
ability: Shield Dust
nature: Timid
evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe or 208 HP / 76 Def / 224 Spe
tera type: Steel

[SET COMMENTS]
* Ribombee sets itself apart from other Sticky Web leads thanks to its excellent matchup into against all opposing Sticky Web leads. In addition to this, Ribombee has a valuable Speed tier and great ability in Shield Dust. Its Speed tier allows it to outspeed common Taunt users such as Arceus formes and Yveltal. Thanks to Shield Dust, Ribombee can stay in against Smeargle to serve as a status absorber for teammates. However, since Ribombee is unable to deny opposing entry hazards from Deoxys-S and Glimmora leads, it is a niche anti-Sticky Web lead on hyper offense teams.

* Imprison allows Ribombee to prevent opposing leads such as Smeargle and Shuckle from setting Sticky Web. Skill Swap allows Ribombee to bypass Magic Bounce from Mega Diancie in order to set Sticky Web. In addition, it also provides utility in stealing Primordial Sea and Desolate Land from Primal Kyogre and Primal Groudon, (AC) respectively, allowing teammates such as Zacian-C to tank a an Origin Pulse and Yveltal to take Heat Crash better.

* Stun Spore is a nuisance for the majority of the tier such as Arceus formes, Yveltal, and Ho-Oh due to Ribombee's Speed tier. It is especially valuable against Ho-Oh, as this it prevents Ho-Oh from freely Defogging. In addition, Stun Spore cripples threats such as Zacian-C and Eternatus, preventing them from using Ribombee to easily setup set up. Moonblast is an option to allow Ribombee to KO Smeargle without risking status for a switch-in. In addition, Moonblast directly threatens Yveltal, Giratina-O, and Dragon Dance Zygarde.

* The given EV spread is for Moonblast sets (RC) and allows allowing Ribombee to outspeed all base 120 Speed foes 120s while maximizing Moonblast damage. (AP) For example, this allowing it to can always 2HKO Physical physical Giratina-O. The secondary EV spread also allows Ribombee to outspeed all base 120 Speed foes 120s, (AC) while the defensive investment turns Ferrothorn's Power Whip, Dragon Dance Zygarde's Thousand Arrows, and Fezandipiti's Alluring Voice into 4HKOs.

* Tera Steel allows Ribombee to block Mortal Spin from Smeargle and Glimmora in order to maintain Sticky Web. However, since the use cases are rare, Ribombee should not usually use Tera Terastallize. It is also wise to wait for Smeargle to reveal Mortal Spin before using Tera Terastallizing, as sets carrying Rapid Spin will cause Ribombee to waste its Tera the Terastallization.

* Ribombee is an excellent anti-Sticky Web choice thanks to its excellent matchup against Smeargle and Shuckle. However, its lead matchup matchups against threats such as Mega Diancie, Deoxys-S, and Glimmora are more challenging. If Ribombee has a bad lead matchup, such as against Deoxys-S or Grimmsnarl, it can wait to set Sticky Web until later thanks to its excellent Speed tier. Ribombee can also be preserved if it survives after setting Sticky Web. This is useful so that it can serve as a sack to bring a teammate in or used to revenge kill threats such as Yveltal.

* Pokemon that appreciate Sticky Web support such as Zacian-C, wallbreaker Primal Kyogre, specially offensive Yveltal, and Chi-Yu are excellent teammates. Zacian-C can easily run through more bulky offens bulkier offense teams and appreciates the ability to outspeed opposing Zacian-Cs. Primal Kyogre is able to greatly threaten Arceus formes and Eternatus thanks to Sticky Web support. Specially offensive Yveltal appreciates being able to outspeed checks such as Zacian-C and Arceus formes. In return, Yveltal provides devestating devastating breaking power and an unmatched ability to keep Sticky Web. Chi-Yu greatly gains from Sticky Web support slowing down checks such as Arceus-Dark and Arceus-Fairy -Fairy. In exchange, Chi-Yu provides the most devestating devastating wallbreaking power in the tier and greatly aids the matchup versus stall teams. Extreme Killer Arceus and Dragon Dance Arceus-Ground are both excellent teammates for Ribombee. Arceus is able to blow through walls such as Primal Groudon and Zygarde with Double Edge while soft checking soft-checking Marshadow with Sitcky Sticky Web support. Arceus-Ground is an excellent answer to Zacian-C and Double Dance Primal Groudon, who which can easily threaten to reverse sweep (RP); (ASC) in addition, (AC) it also threatens Ho-Oh.

* Due to Ribombee's inability to deny opposing entry hazards, Pokemon that are weak to Stealth Rock such as Chi-Yu and Mega Salamence should be picked sparingly as teammates. The exception to this is Yveltal, as its ability to keep Sticky Web up is too valuable. Eternatus is an extremely valuable as a teammate due to its ability to absorb Toxic Spikes, as Toxic Spikes they can cripple hyper offense teammates such as Arceus, Primal Groudon, and Primal Kyogre. Extreme Killer Arceus can easily setup set up on Ribombee, so Marshadow and Zacian-C are appreciated in order to check it. Although Ribombee can annoy Ho-Oh with Stun Spore, it cannot prevent Ho-Oh from Defogging, so Pokemon that threaten it Ho-Oh out such as Meteor Beam Eternatus or can Taunt it such as Tera Fire specifically offensive Yveltal are appreciated.

[SET CREDITS]
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Written by:
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Quality checked by:
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https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/bobsican.434487/

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