LC Chinchou [GP 1/1]

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[OVERVIEW]
Thanks to its Water / Electric typing and ability Volt Absorb, Chinchou compresses a Water- and Electric-type check into one slot, which is extremely valuable in a tier dominated by them like LC. Chinchou has good matchups into fellow Electric-types such as Elekid and Voltorb, as well as Pokemon that can carry Electric-type coverage like Staryu and Gastly. It is also notably is the only Electric-type not trapped by Trapinch. Chinchou is no slouch offensively either, with powerful dual STAB options like Hydro Pump and Thunderbolt. However, Chinchou is held back by one very bad matchup: it is trapped and removed by Diglett, one of the most prominent Pokemon in the metagame.

[SET]
Offensive (Chinchou) @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Volt Absorb
Level: 5
EVs: 52 Def / 228 SpA / 220 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Thunderbolt
- Hydro Pump / Surf
- Thunder Wave / Ice Beam
- Substitute / Thunder Wave

[SET COMMENTS]
As always, the choice between Surf and Hydro Pump depends on whether accuracy or power is valued more. Surf provides more consistent Water-type damage, leaving other moveslots open for utility moves. Ice Beam is also a good coverage option against Cacnea, Bagon and Exeggcute, OHKOing offensive Cacnea variants and dealing significant damage to defensive Cacnea variants, Bagon, and Exeggcute. Hydro Pump secures the KO on Gastly and has a good chance to KO Magnemite with the drawback of being less accurate, although it can be run with Ice Beam to ensure Chinchou still has an accurate option to hit opposing Pokemon. Thunder Wave allows Chinchou to spread valuable paralysis for both itself and its teammates to take advantage of but can be dropped if paralysis support is already elsewhere on the team or simply not desired. Substitute serves its usual purpose of easing prediction and fishing for the opposing Pokemon to be fully paralyzed but also notably allows Chinchou to beat Diglett if it comes in on Chinchou behind a Substitute, possibly on an incorrectly predicted Thunderbolt or Thunder Wave.

Since Chinchou is vulnerable to being trapped and KOed by Diglett, Porygon makes an excellent teammate, as it can come in and counter-trap Diglett then take it out with Ice Beam. Water-types like Staryu and Wailmer also work, as they will either KO Diglett or force a switch. Elekid and Voltorb, which are also trapped by Diglett, can make great partners for Chinchou alongside Porygon, as once one is trapped, Porygon can be used to counter-trap Diglett, leaving the field open for the remaining Electric-type. Pokemon like Doduo that struggle with fast Electric-types appreciate Chinchou's ability to deal with them. Chinchou is very effective at spreading paralysis, so Pokemon that benefit from paralyzed foes, such as setup sweepers like Abra and Bagon, make good teammates for it as well. Chinchou usually loses to opposing Grass-types, so a teammate that can take them out like Doduo or Houndour is a good idea.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============
Chinchou can become a potent sweeper using the combination of Endure and a Salac Berry, but Endure is difficult to pull off: most teams will have a Pokemon with Quick Attack, a common example being Doduo, as well as Pokemon with Substitute to punish a predicted Endure. Hidden Power Grass is an option to hit other Chinchou for good damage, as well as providing coverage for Water- and Ground-types in the same slot, but is very weak compared to Chinchou's other moves and fails to get any relevant OHKOs. Toxic is another option for spreading status, as some players may value the residual damage over the immediate advantage that paralysis provides. While niche, Toxic is great for forcing defensive Pokemon like Porygon to reconsider how long they want to stay in, and even 1 HP of chip damage can sometimes be the difference between a chance to OHKO and a guaranteed OHKO.

Checks and Counters
===================
**Diglett**: Diglett is faster than Chinchou and is able to trap and OHKO it with its ability Arena Trap and Earthquake. Diglett can also take advantage of Chinchou sets that only run Hydro Pump and Thunderbolt as attacking moves, as it can use Substitute repeatedly to fish for a Hydro Pump miss.

**Exeggcute and Cacnea**: Even if Chinchou is running Ice Beam, Exeggcute can survive Ice Beam from full HP and then set up Sunny Day to OHKO Chinchou with Solar Beam. Exeggcute does have to watch out for Chinchou stalling out sun turns with Substitute, however. Similarly, if Chinchou has Ice Beam, it's capable of doing big damage to defensive Cacnea variants and even OHKOing offensive variants, but it risks a 50% chance to be OHKOed in return by Hidden Power Grass and Giga Drain, respectively.

**Revenge Killers**: Sitting at an awkward 16 Speed, Chinchou is outsped by Doduo, which can easily OHKO it, Gastly, which can threaten an OHKO with Explosion and Substitute on an incorrect prediction, and Abra and Hidden Power Grass Staryu, which can pick off Chinchou once it's been chipped.

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[OVERVIEW]
Chinchou has many good matchups into common Pokemon in LC thanks to its typing and ability Volt Absorb, including fellow Electric-types such as Elekid and Voltorb, Pokemon that can carry Electric-type coverage like Staryu and Porygon, and surprisingly Trapinch. The ability to compress a Water- and Electric-type check into one slot is very valuable in a tier dominated by them. Chinchou is no slouch offensively either, with powerful dual STAB options like Hydro Pump and Thunderbolt. However, Chinchou is held back by one very bad matchup: it is trapped and removed by Diglett, one of the most prominent Pokemon in the metagame.

[SET]
Offensive (Chinchou) @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Volt Absorb
Level: 5
EVs: 52 Def / 228 SpA / 220 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Thunderbolt
- Surf / Hydro Pump
- Thunder Wave / Ice Beam
- Substitute / Thunder Wave

[SET COMMENTS]
As always, the choice between Surf and Hydro Pump depends on whether accuracy or power is valued more. Hydro Pump's raw power can and can be run with Ice Beam to ensure Chinchou still has an accurate option to hit. Surf provides more consistent Water-type damage. Mention calcs where the difference in power matters Ice Beam is also a good coverage option against Cacnea, Bagon, and Exeggcute, OHKOing offensive Cacnea variants and dealing significant damage to defensive Cacnea variants, Bagon, and Exeggcute. Thunder Wave allows Chinchou to spread valuable paralysis for both itself and its teammates to take advantage of, but can be dropped if paralysis support is already elsewhere on the team or simply not desired. Substitute serves its usual purpose of easing predicition prediction and more specifically to LC I've seen this strat used in plenty of metas fishing for the opposing Pokemon to be fully paralyzed, but also notably allows Chinchou to beat Diglett if it's foolish enough to come in on Chinchou behind a Substitute. Explain that it can switch into Chinchou expecting it to use Thunderbolt or Thunder Wave

Since Chinchou is vulnerable to being trapped and KOed by Diglett, Porygon makes an excellent teammate as it can come in and counter-trap Diglett, then take it out with Ice Beam. Water-types like Staryu and Wailmer also work as they will either KO Diglett or force a switch. Pokemon like Doduo that struggle with fast Electric-types appreciate Chinchou's ability to deal with them. Chinchou is very effective at spreading paralysis, so Pokemon who that benefit from paralyzed foes, for example setup sweepers like Abra and Bagon, make good teammates for it as well. Mention checks to Grass-types

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============
Chinchou can become a potent sweeper using the combination of Endure and a Salac Berry, but Endure is difficult to pull off as most teams will have a Pokemon with Quick Attack as well as Pokemon with Substitute to punish a predicted Endure. Mention how common Doduo and its Quick Attack is Hidden Power Grass is an option to hit other Chinchou for good damage, as well as provide coverage for Water- and Ground-types in the same slot, but is very weak compared to Chinchou's other moves and fails to get any relevant OHKOs. Toxic is another option for spreading status, as some players may value the residual damage over the immediate advantage that paralysis provides. Mention that the pace of ADV LC makes this niche

Checks and Counters
===================
**Diglett**: Diglett is faster than Chinchou and is able to trap and OHKO it with its ability Arena Trap and Earthquake. Diglett can also take advantage of Chinchou sets that only run Hydro Pump and Thunderbolt as attacking moves, as it can use Substitute repeatedly to fish for a Hydro Pump miss.

**Exeggcute**: Exeggcute can survive Ice Beam from full HP, and then set up Sunny Day to OHKO Chinchou with Solar Beam. Exeggcute does have to watch out for Chinchou stalling out Sun turns with Substitute, however. Mention that Chinchou doesn't always run Ice Beam. Also mention Cacnea here

Talk about faster attackers that can revenge kill Chinchou, notably Doduo which can OHKO it


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grape tylenol

white girl wasted
is a Site Content Manageris a Top Artistis a Forum Moderator
Good work, QC 1/2 when implemented

[OVERVIEW]
Chinchou has many good matchups into common Pokemon in LC thanks to its typing and ability Volt Absorb, including fellow Electric-types such as Elekid and Voltorb, Pokemon that can carry Electric-type coverage like Staryu and Porygon, and surprisingly Trapinch. The ability to compress a Water- and Electric-type check into one slot is very valuable in a tier dominated by them. Chinchou is no slouch offensively either, with powerful dual STAB options like Hydro Pump and Thunderbolt. However, Chinchou is held back by one very bad matchup: it is trapped and removed by Diglett, one of the most prominent Pokemon in the metagame.

[SET]
Offensive (Chinchou) @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Volt Absorb
Level: 5
EVs: 52 Def / 228 SpA / 220 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Thunderbolt
- Surf / Hydro Pump
- Thunder Wave / Ice Beam
- Substitute / Thunder Wave

[SET COMMENTS]
As always, the choice between Surf and Hydro Pump depends on whether accuracy or power is valued more. Hydro Pump's raw power can and can be run with Ice Beam to ensure Chinchou still has an accurate option to hit. Surf provides more consistent Water-type damage. Mention calcs where the difference in power matters Ice Beam is also a good coverage option against Cacnea, Bagon, and Exeggcute, OHKOing offensive Cacnea variants and dealing significant damage to defensive Cacnea variants, Bagon, and Exeggcute. Thunder Wave allows Chinchou to spread valuable paralysis for both itself and its teammates to take advantage of, but can be dropped if paralysis support is already elsewhere on the team or simply not desired. Substitute serves its usual purpose of easing predicition prediction and more specifically to LC I've seen this strat used in plenty of metas fishing for the opposing Pokemon to be fully paralyzed, but also notably allows Chinchou to beat Diglett if it's foolish enough to come in on Chinchou behind a Substitute. Explain that it can switch into Chinchou expecting it to use Thunderbolt or Thunder Wave

Since Chinchou is vulnerable to being trapped and KOed by Diglett, Porygon makes an excellent teammate as it can come in and counter-trap Diglett, then take it out with Ice Beam. Water-types like Staryu and Wailmer also work as they will either KO Diglett or force a switch. Pokemon like Doduo that struggle with fast Electric-types appreciate Chinchou's ability to deal with them. Chinchou is very effective at spreading paralysis, so Pokemon who that benefit from paralyzed foes, for example setup sweepers like Abra and Bagon, make good teammates for it as well. Mention checks to Grass-types

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============
Chinchou can become a potent sweeper using the combination of Endure and a Salac Berry, but Endure is difficult to pull off as most teams will have a Pokemon with Quick Attack as well as Pokemon with Substitute to punish a predicted Endure. Mention how common Doduo and its Quick Attack is Hidden Power Grass is an option to hit other Chinchou for good damage, as well as provide coverage for Water- and Ground-types in the same slot, but is very weak compared to Chinchou's other moves and fails to get any relevant OHKOs. Toxic is another option for spreading status, as some players may value the residual damage over the immediate advantage that paralysis provides. Mention that the pace of ADV LC makes this niche

Checks and Counters
===================
**Diglett**: Diglett is faster than Chinchou and is able to trap and OHKO it with its ability Arena Trap and Earthquake. Diglett can also take advantage of Chinchou sets that only run Hydro Pump and Thunderbolt as attacking moves, as it can use Substitute repeatedly to fish for a Hydro Pump miss.

**Exeggcute**: Exeggcute can survive Ice Beam from full HP, and then set up Sunny Day to OHKO Chinchou with Solar Beam. Exeggcute does have to watch out for Chinchou stalling out Sun turns with Substitute, however. Mention that Chinchou doesn't always run Ice Beam. Also mention Cacnea here

Talk about faster attackers that can revenge kill Chinchou, notably Doduo which can OHKO it


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[OVERVIEW]
Chinchou has many good matchups into common Pokemon in LC thanks to its typing and ability Volt Absorb, including fellow Electric-types such as Elekid and Voltorb, Pokemon that can carry Electric-type coverage like Staryu and Porygon, and surprisingly Trapinch.I think this sentence needs to be reworked. Bit awkward how the Pokemon its good into are introduced. Chou being the only electric type that can almost never be trapped by Trapinch should be highlighted, but its not necessarily surprising. The ability to compress a Water- and Electric-type check into one slot is very valuable in a tier dominated by them. Chinchou is no slouch offensively either, with powerful dual STAB options like Hydro Pump and Thunderbolt. However, Chinchou is held back by one very bad matchup: it is trapped and removed by Diglett, one of the most prominent Pokemon in the metagame.

[SET]
Offensive (Chinchou) @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Volt Absorb
Level: 5
EVs: 52 Def / 228 SpA / 220 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Thunderbolt
- Surf / Hydro Pump
- Thunder Wave / Ice Beam
- Substitute / Thunder Wave

[SET COMMENTS]
As always, the choice between Surf and Hydro Pump depends on whether accuracy or power is valued more. Hydro Pump's raw power can make the difference between KOing a chipped foe or not, and can be run with Ice Beam to ensure Chinchou still has an accurate option to hit opposing Pokemon. Surf provides more consistent Water-type damage, leaving other moveslots open for utility moves. it needs to be mentioned specifically why Surf is preferred on Chinchou, the other waters predominantly rock Hydro. Ice Beam is also a good coverage option against Cacnea, Bagon and Exeggcute, OHKOing offensive Cacnea variants and dealing significant damage to defensive Cacnea variants, Bagon, and Exeggcute. Thunder Wave allows Chinchou to spread valuable paralysis for both itself and its teammates to take advantage of, but can be dropped if paralysis support is already elsewhere on the team or simply not desired. Substitute serves its usual purpose of easing prediction and fishing for the opposing Pokemon to be fully paralyzed, but also notably allows Chinchou to beat Diglett if it comes in on Chinchou behind a Substitute, possibly on an incorrectly predicted Thunderbolt or Thunder Wave.

Since Chinchou is vulnerable to being trapped and KOed by Diglett, Porygon makes an excellent teammate as it can come in and counter-trap Diglett, then take it out with Ice Beam. Water-types like Staryu and Wailmer also work as they will either KO Diglett or force a switch. Pokemon like Doduo that struggle with fast Electric-types appreciate Chinchou's ability to deal with them. Chinchou is very effective at spreading paralysis, so Pokemon that benefit from paralyzed foes, for example setup sweepers like Abra and Bagon, make good teammates for it as well. Chinchou usually loses to opposing Grass-types, so a teammate that can take them out like Doduo or Houndour is a good idea. Add Torb or Elekid as partners, stacking elecs is powerful and chou has less overlap. If one gets trapped Pory can counter trap and the remaining elec is a menace.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============
Chinchou can become a potent sweeper using the combination of Endure and a Salac Berry, but Endure is difficult to pull off as most teams will have a Pokemon with Quick Attack, a common example being Doduo, as well as Pokemon with Substitute to punish a predicted Endure. Hidden Power Grass is an option to hit other Chinchou for good damage, as well as provide coverage for Water- and Ground-types in the same slot, but is very weak compared to Chinchou's other moves and fails to get any relevant OHKOs. Toxic is another option for spreading status, as some players may value the residual damage over the immediate advantage that paralysis provides. The fast paced nature and low HP stats of LC usually result in the chip damage from Toxic being irrelevant outside of a few matchups, one example being against Porygon, making it only valuable in niche situations. Discussed this sentence on discord, some change to be made but unclear atm.

Checks and Counters
===================
**Diglett**: Diglett is faster than Chinchou and is able to trap and OHKO it with its ability Arena Trap and Earthquake. Diglett can also take advantage of Chinchou sets that only run Hydro Pump and Thunderbolt as attacking moves, as it can use Substitute repeatedly to fish for a Hydro Pump miss.

**Grass-types**: Chinchou struggles with opposing Grass-types such as Exeggcute, Cacnea, and Lileep. Even if Chinchou is running Ice Beam, Exeggcute can survive Ice Beam from full HP, and then set up Sunny Day to OHKO Chinchou with Solar Beam. Exeggcute does have to watch out for Chinchou stalling out Sun turns with Substitute, however. Similarly, if Chinchou has Ice Beam it's capable of doing big damage to defensive Cacnea variants and even OHKOing offensive variants, but risks a 50% chance to be OHKOed in return by Hidden Power Grass and Giga Drain respectively. Lileep can reliably 2HKO Chinchou through its Sitrus Berry using a combination of Rock Slide and Hidden Power Grass or Giga Drain, and Chinchou can't reliably do the same to Lileep. Lileep loses to surf into ice beam but aside from that its good

**Revenge killers**: Sitting at an awkward 16 Speed, Chinchou is outsped by Doduo which can easily OHKO it, Gastly which can threaten an OHKO with Explosion and Substitute on an incorrect prediction, as well as Abra and Hidden Power Grass Staryu which can pick off Chinchou once it's been chipped.

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[OVERVIEW]
Thanks to its Water / Electric typing and ability Volt Absorb, Chinchou compresses a Water- and Electric-type check into one slot, which is extremely valuable in a tier dominated by them like LC. Chinchou has good matchups into fellow Electric-types such as Elekid and Voltorb, as well as Pokemon that can carry Electric-type coverage like Staryu and Gastly. , and It notably is also notably the only Electric-type not trapped by Trapinch. Chinchou is no slouch offensively either, with powerful dual STAB options like Hydro Pump and Thunderbolt. However, Chinchou is held back by one very bad matchup: it is trapped and removed by Diglett, one of the most prominent Pokemon in the metagame.

[SET]
Offensive (Chinchou) @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Volt Absorb
Level: 5
EVs: 52 Def / 228 SpA / 220 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Thunderbolt
- Hydro Pump / Surf
- Thunder Wave / Ice Beam
- Substitute / Thunder Wave

[SET COMMENTS]
As always, the choice between Surf and Hydro Pump depends on whether accuracy or power is valued more. Surf provides more consistent Water-type damage, leaving other moveslots open for utility moves. Ice Beam is also a good coverage option against Cacnea, Bagon and Exeggcute, OHKOing offensive Cacnea variants and dealing significant damage to defensive Cacnea variants, Bagon, and Exeggcute. Hydro Pump secures the KO on Gastly and has a good chance to KO Magnemite with the drawback of being less accurate, although it can be run with Ice Beam to ensure Chinchou still has an accurate option to hit opposing Pokemon. Thunder Wave allows Chinchou to spread valuable paralysis for both itself and its teammates to take advantage of, (remove comma) but can be dropped if paralysis support is already elsewhere on the team or simply not desired. Substitute serves its usual purpose of easing prediction and fishing for the opposing Pokemon to be fully paralyzed, (remove comma) but also notably allows Chinchou to beat Diglett if it comes in on Chinchou behind a Substitute, possibly on an incorrectly predicted Thunderbolt or Thunder Wave.

Since Chinchou is vulnerable to being trapped and KOed by Diglett, Porygon makes an excellent teammate, (add comma) as it can come in and counter-trap Diglett, (remove comma) then take it out with Ice Beam. Water-types like Staryu and Wailmer also work, (add comma) as they will either KO Diglett or force a switch. Elekid and Voltorb, which are also trapped by Diglett, can make great partners for Chinchou alongside Porygon, (add comma) as once one is trapped, Porygon can be used to counter-trap Diglett, (add comma) leaving the field open for the remaining Electric-type. (hyphen) Pokemon like Doduo that struggle with fast Electric-types appreciate Chinchou's ability to deal with them. Chinchou is very effective at spreading paralysis, so Pokemon that benefit from paralyzed foes, for example such as setup sweepers like Abra and Bagon, make good teammates for it as well. Chinchou usually loses to opposing Grass-types, so a teammate that can take them out like Doduo or Houndour is a good idea.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============
Chinchou can become a potent sweeper using the combination of Endure and a Salac Berry, but Endure is difficult to pull off: as most teams will have a Pokemon with Quick Attack, a common example being Doduo, as well as Pokemon with Substitute to punish a predicted Endure. Hidden Power Grass is an option to hit other Chinchou for good damage, as well as provide providing coverage for Water- and Ground-types in the same slot, but is very weak compared to Chinchou's other moves and fails to get any relevant OHKOs. Toxic is another option for spreading status, as some players may value the residual damage over the immediate advantage that paralysis provides. While niche, Toxic is great for forcing defensive Pokemon like Porygon to reconsider how long they want to stay in, (add comma) and even 1 HP (space) of chip damage can sometimes be the difference between a chance to OHKO and a guaranteed OHKO.

Checks and Counters
===================
**Diglett**: Diglett is faster than Chinchou and is able to trap and OHKO it with its ability Arena Trap and Earthquake. Diglett can also take advantage of Chinchou sets that only run Hydro Pump and Thunderbolt as attacking moves, as it can use Substitute repeatedly to fish for a Hydro Pump miss.

**Exeggcute and Cacnea**: Even if Chinchou is running Ice Beam, Exeggcute can survive Ice Beam from full HP, (remove comma) and then set up Sunny Day to OHKO Chinchou with Solar Beam. Exeggcute does have to watch out for Chinchou stalling out Sun sun turns with Substitute, however. Similarly, if Chinchou has Ice Beam, (add comma) it's capable of doing big damage to defensive Cacnea variants and even OHKOing offensive variants, but it risks a 50% chance to be OHKOed in return by Hidden Power Grass and Giga Drain, (add comma) respectively.

**Revenge Killers killers**: Sitting at an awkward 16 Speed, Chinchou is outsped by Doduo, (add comma) which can easily OHKO it, Gastly, (add comma) which can threaten an OHKO with Explosion and Substitute on an incorrect prediction, as well as and Abra and Hidden Power Grass Staryu, (add comma) which can pick off Chinchou once it's been chipped.

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