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i dont care for bdsp and never played it and i find it a Worthless Product in the franchise, but my point isnt that the games are good, its that we just cant take filtered bubble views on the generations as ways to define eras: bdsp Was successful whether its dogshit ass or mid or the best game ever, so it being part of any kind of era signified by death of hype seems silly to me.

as an example, i do not think many golden era disney movies are good. i find them mediocre products. doesnt meant they arent some behemoths of animation success
Yeah, we agree on it.

And like we were saying it's all subjective, for example, that post you were replying to completely different from the usual take on what was the peak of the franchise.
I feel like there isn’t one definitive “peak” or “lowest point” for this franchise since those terms are already very loosely opinionated. A lot of factors go into this- when the person grew up playing tends to be a major factor, and every game is going to offer different things that may or may not appeal to certain people. With a multimedia franchise this large and significant there’s just too many variables to keep in mind and too many different sides of a very large overall playerbase.

In fact, I’d argue there’s no one best or worst game on the Switch, either. If we’re just looking at Pokémon’s mainline offerings since 2018, it almost seems like the lineup is specifically designed for each game(s) to cater towards a different group of people: You want a more traditional style of remake? You’ve got Let’s Go and BDSP to pick from, even if they could have done more with both of those. You want something more unique than what we’ve gotten before? Legends is the game for you. New to the franchise? As much as I hate these games, Sword & Shield are pretty beginner friendly if you’re looking to play something that’s an introduction to what later games would become. Prefer open world games? Scarlet & Violet have more emphasis on story than a handful of other games and they run better on Switch 2 also. Things like this.

It leads to a situation where you’re unlikely to like every Switch game, but the odds are fairly high that you’ll enjoy at least one of them, as opposed to “I either love every game on this handheld or hate every game on this handheld with no in between”. Older fans tend to gravitate heavily towards an entire stsyem’s lineup if their top favorite was from that system, and the Switch games seem to have taken a different approach.
 
Older fans tend to gravitate heavily towards an entire stsyem’s lineup if their top favorite was from that system, and the Switch games seem to have taken a different approach.
Because the Switch games are wildly different from one another.

Gens 1-4 were pretty much constantly developing; they were building a foundation, so games on the same console were pretty similar.

Playing HGSS isn't as different from Platinum as SV was to BDSP. It makes sense that people view systems as the collective, especially since gens didn't really share consoles until the DS.
 
Why hasn't X-Scissor been buffed yet? Give it 90BP for crying out loud.

A couple of generations ago, I would have agreed, but I think it's gotten enough of a buff becoming a slicing move. Bug coverage is pretty niche so it'll never be a very common move, but it's Kleavor's best STAB option when paired with Sharpness, and if anything with Sharpness in the future wants to run a Bug move, it'll probably be X-Scissor.
 
Seaking is right, and also Bug-types have a lot of other strong physical options in Lunge, Leech Life, and Megahorn, and U-turn and First Impression to think a bit outside the box
And this is exactly why X-Scissor should get something.

Realistically, it's not competing with anything as it's essentially a coverage move now. Kleavor is one of the few mons that actually want to run it instead of Lunge because its ability enables it to stand out. It is the generic Bug-type coverage option, so it should at least have a trait to warrant using it since Bug is also one of the worst offensive types of the game.

No, U-Turn doesn't count for that purpose lol. And that should be nerfed either way.
 
maybe if u turn was like 20 bp or some shit theyd be more willing to give bug offensive buffs. its not like itd even be a nerf to bugs because the bug type is on average the worst user of the move anyway. the best ones are random shit like incin and urshufi that dont deserve to hit with a 70 bp move while switching out
 
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