Grubbin, Charjabug, Vikavolt Discussion

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Grubbin
Bug
Abilities: Swarm / Swarm / Swarm
HP: 47
Atk: 62
Def: 45
SpAtk: 55
SpDef: 45
Spe: 46

Level Up

L1 - Vice Grip
L4 - String Shot
L7 - Mud-Slap
L10 - Bite
L13 - Bug Bite
L16 - Spark
L19 - Acrobatics
L22 - Crunch
L25 - X-Scissor
L28 - Dig

TMs

TM06 - Toxic
TM10 - Hidden Power
TM16 - Light Screen
TM17 - Protect
TM18 - Rain Dance
TM21 - Frustration
TM24 - Thunderbolt
TM27 - Return
TM32 - Double Team
TM42 - Facade
TM44 - Rest
TM45 - Attract
TM48 - Round
TM57 - Charge Beam
TM62 - Acrobatics
TM72 - Volt Switch
TM73 - Thunder Wave
TM81 - X-Scissor
TM84 - Poison Jab
TM87 - Swagger
TM88 - Sleep Talk
TM90 - Substitute
TM93 - Wild Charge
TM100 - Confide

Egg moves

Egg - Harden
Egg - Electroweb
Egg - Mud Shot
Egg - Endure

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Charjabug
Bug/Electric
Abilities: Battery / Battery / Battery
HP: 57
Atk: 82
Def: 95
SpAtk: 55
SpDef: 75
Spe: 36

Level Up

L0 - Charge
L1 - Charge
L1 - Vice Grip
L1 - String Shot
L1 - Mud-Slap
L1 - Bite
L4 - String Shot
L7 - Mud-Slap
L10 - Bite
L13 - Bug Bite
L16 - Spark
L19 - Acrobatics
L25 - Crunch
L31 - X-Scissor
L37 - Dig
L43 - Discharge
L49 - Iron Defense
TMs

TM06 - Toxic
TM10 - Hidden Power
TM16 - Light Screen
TM17 - Protect
TM18 - Rain Dance
TM21 - Frustration
TM24 - Thunderbolt
TM27 - Return
TM32 - Double Team
TM42 - Facade
TM44 - Rest
TM45 - Attract
TM48 - Round
TM57 - Charge Beam
TM62 - Acrobatics
TM72 - Volt Switch
TM73 - Thunder Wave
TM81 - X-Scissor
TM84 - Poison Jab
TM87 - Swagger
TM88 - Sleep Talk
TM90 - Substitute
TM93 - Wild Charge
TM100 - Confide
Egg moves

Egg - Harden
Egg - Electroweb
Egg - Mud Shot
Egg - Endure

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Vikavolt
Bug/Electric
Abilities: Levitate / Levitate / Levitate
HP: 77
Atk: 70
Def: 90
SpAtk: 145
SpDef: 75
Spe: 43

Level Up

L0 - Thunderbolt
L1 - Thunderbolt
L1 - Air Slash
L1 - Charge
L1 - Vice Grip
L1 - String Shot
L1 - Mud-Slap
L1 - Bite
L4 - String Shot
L7 - Mud-Slap
L10 - Bite
L13 - Bug Bite
L16 - Spark
L19 - Acrobatics
L25 - Guillotine
L31 - Bug Buzz
L37 - Dig
L41 - Zap Cannon
L49 - Agility

TMs

TM06 - Toxic
TM10 - Hidden Power
TM15 - Hyper Beam
TM16 - Light Screen
TM17 - Protect
TM18 - Rain Dance
TM19 - Roost
TM21 - Frustration
TM22 - Solar Beam
TM24 - Thunderbolt
TM25 - Thunder
TM27 - Return
TM32 - Double Team
TM42 - Facade
TM44 - Rest
TM45 - Attract
TM48 - Round
TM53 - Energy Ball
TM57 - Charge Beam
TM58 - Sky Drop
TM62 - Acrobatics
TM68 - Giga Impact
TM72 - Volt Switch
TM73 - Thunder Wave
TM81 - X-Scissor
TM84 - Poison Jab
TM87 - Swagger
TM88 - Sleep Talk
TM90 - Substitute
TM91 - Flash Cannon
TM93 - Wild Charge
TM100 - Confide
Egg moves

Egg - Harden
Egg - Electroweb
Egg - Mud Shot
Egg - Endure
New Ability

Battery: Powers up allies special moves.
 
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Dig? Oh Gamefreak, you delightful scamp. But in all seriousness, not utter crap.

Charjabug may be fine with Eviolite in doubles, but it seems to know very little in terms of support and I don't think it can do much meaninful damage.

Vikavolt's massive Sp.Attack and okay defenses seem offset by its speed and a movepool with Thunderbolt, Bug Buzz, Energy Ball, Roost, Volt Switch and not much else. It may have to tools to do alright though. Ground Immunity is interesting too, although most Ground-types (and some Steel-types) carry a Rock-type move.
 
I'm shocked Vikavolt's speed is this low. Fortunately it gets Agility to somewhat patch that up. How would a set with Agility/Bug Buzz/Thunderbolt/Volt Switch perform?
 
Vikavolt's low speed makes me really sad. It also makes zero sense from a Pokedex standpoint, because the dex talks about its high speed and aerial maneuvering skills. You had one job and you failed horribly, Vikavolt, especially with such a barren movepool. At least it has a cool shiny.
 
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ok so ive been thinking about sets for vikavolt, so far it seems like a wallbreaker for sure. So with its stats at 77/70/90/145/75/45, there is a decent amount of HP, Defense, and a monsterous SPA. Its slow AF. but it has decent power and a great moveset to boot. Lets compare this to some of the more prevalent walls in OU, specifically, stall mons. Obvious moves that are going to be used are T-Bolt, Bug Buzz, and even HP-Ice. Last slot has plenty of good options in air slash, flash cannon, energy ball, agility for speed, volt switch for pivoting, it even gets mud shot from breeding! Since Vikavolt is so slow, we cant reliably use volt switch on it since its defenses arent the best and has a lack of recovery. The sucky part of it is purely the speed. It needs a choice scarf, max speed with a timid nature just to hit 310 at level 100! Then you are just passing mons with without major investment from base 100s. Some important Calcs vs walls of OU.

Note, i used Galvantula in place of vikivolt on the calculator, so read galvantula as vikivolt

252+ SpA Choice Specs Galvantula Bug Buzz vs. 248 HP / 92 SpD Amoonguss: 282-333 (65.4 - 77.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Black Sludge recovery

252+ SpA Choice Specs Galvantula Thunderbolt vs. 252 HP / 84+ SpD Clefable: 238-282 (60.4 - 71.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

252+ SpA Choice Specs Galvantula Bug Buzz vs. 252 HP / 168 SpD Ferrothorn: 201-237 (57.1 - 67.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

252+ SpA Choice Specs Galvantula Bug Buzz vs. 252 HP / 112 SpD Hippowdon: 297-351 (70.7 - 83.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

252+ SpA Choice Specs Galvantula Thunderbolt vs. 252 HP / 224+ SpD Jirachi: 193-228 (47.7 - 56.4%) -- 28.9% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

252+ SpA Choice Specs Galvantula Thunderbolt vs. 252 HP / 144+ SpD Mega Sableye: 186-220 (61.1 - 72.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252+ SpA Choice Specs Galvantula Thunderbolt vs. 252 HP / 176 SpD Mega Slowbro: 516-608 (130.9 - 154.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ SpA Choice Specs Galvantula Bug Buzz vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Assault Vest Tangrowth: 378-446 (93.5 - 110.3%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO

252+ SpA Choice Specs Galvantula Bug Buzz vs. 248 HP / 144 SpD Mega Venusaur: 199-235 (54.8 - 64.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252+ SpA Choice Specs Galvantula Thunderbolt vs. 248 HP / 180+ SpD Zapdos: 216-255 (56.3 - 66.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

NOTHING wants to switch into this thing with a choice specs set. So my thoughts are a pretty simple 252 SPA, 252 Speed, 4 SPD with Thunderbolt, Bug Buzz, HP Ice, volt switch. Life orb also seems like a good idea alongside using agility in the last slot, requires the set up turn but if you get it off with a positive nature, you are looking at 414 speed.
 
What happened gamefreak?

How is badass flying stagbeetle slower a giraffe palmtree. I think some one screwed up the stats.

I actually think Zap Cannon could be decent on this thing since it would hit like a total nuke and annilate everything in site and patch up its speed somewhat even though it only have 50% accuracy. It also can be effective in TR.
 
Why would Zap cannon be good? Its only marginally stronger than thunderbolt, and is severely outclassed by thunder if you want an inaccurate nuke.
 
chuckeroo777 said:
Why would Zap cannon be good? Its only marginally stronger than thunderbolt, and is severely outclassed by thunder if you want an inaccurate nuke.
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It is a very risky move but I am saying with the few pokemon that get Zap Cannon that vikavolt would be the best user since it has incredible special atk and it pretty slow and could catch non ground types off guard and outspeed the next turn and KO them. Thunder is a better alternative with rain. Thunder only has a 30% of paralysing though. Agility as mentioned is also a option but it may have issues finding a free turn as its weak to SR and it has decent bulk at best.
 
STEELDRAGON said:
It is a very risky move but I am saying with the few pokemon that get Zap Cannon that vikavolt would be the best user since it has incredible special atk and it pretty slow and could catch non ground types off guard and outspeed the next turn and KO them. Thunder is a better alternative with rain. Thunder only has a 30% of paralysing though. Agility as mentioned is also a option but it may have issues finding a free turn as its weak to SR and it has decent bulk at best.
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Paralysis only halves speed this gen. With only 43 speed, there isn't much he can outspeed even after paralysis.
 
Zepeln said:
Adding too this, with a Timid nature and fully invested speed, it hits a speed stat of 406 with Agility. That lets it outspeed 135s and below
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But the question becomes: what does it set up on? Its defense isnt the greatest and it hates special attackers. Thats my only real problem with agility on it
 
Hourai said:
It also makes zero sense from a Pokedex standpoint, because the dex talks about its high speed and aerial maneuvering skills.
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"Escavlier flies around at high speeds" -Pokedex

I'm starting to think Rotom-Pokedex drank a bit too much when creating some descriptions

But damn only good stat is a huge Sp. Atk with somewhat closed coverage options coupled with slow speed and pretty fragile defenses. I predict a... RU? It ain't gonna be OU for sure, have my doubts about UU but maybe it goes to RU/BL2
 
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