Copyediting Dragon Dance Roaring Moon (Dark) [QC 2/2] [GP 0/1]

[sasha]

[SET]
Roaring Moon @ Leftovers
Name: Dragon Dance
Ability: Protosynthesis
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Knock Off
- Earthquake
- Roost / Taunt

[SET COMMENTS]
With Dragon Dance, Roaring Moon becomes an oppressive sweeper capable of taking on many threatening Pokemon at +1 such as Choice Specs Flutter Mane, Iron Valiant, and non-Choice Scarf Greninja. Knock Off is Roaring Moon's strongest STAB, and also helps remove defensive items like Leftovers and Heavy-Duty Boots from their holders such as Landorus-T and Corviknight respectively which allows Roaring Moon to muscle past and sweep them easier. Earthquake is the coverage move of choice as it allows Roaring Moon to hit defensive foes that can otherwise wall it even at +1, such as Toxapex and Torkoal. Roost allows Roaring Moon to retain HP and setup further if needed, while Taunt can be used to stop foes such as Mandibuzz and Toxapex from neutering Roaring Moon with status moves such as Toxic and Haze.

Kingambit is a necessary teammate as it is able to handle Fairy-types that can neutralize Roaring Moon before a boost such as Flutter Mane and Hatterene, While Roaring Moon can deal with Fire-type Pokemon that threaten Kingambit such as non-Air Balloon Heatran and unboosted Gouging Fire. Ting-Lu also pairs nicely with Roaring Moon as it is able to provide support in its colorful access to entry hazards that aid in Roaring Moons sweeping capabilities, while also being able to stomach Fairy-type attacks from Iron Valiant and the aforementioned Flutter Mane and hit them back with Heavy Slam. Sableye in tandem with Knock Off and Will-O-Wisp is able to help make progress against bulky Pokemon that generally shrug off Roaring Moon's attacks such as Skarmory and Corviknight, while also providing an invaluable Fighting-type immunity. Additionally, Prankster paired with Encore allows Sableye to deny setup sweepers such as Iron Defense + Body Press Zamazenta and Dragon Dance Gouging Fire. Choice Scarf Meowscarada is able to outspeed the likes of Dragapult and Choice Scarf Latios and OHKO them with Knock Off to alleviate pressure on Roaring Moon. Choice Specs Greninja with its plethora of coverage options aids the Fighting-, Dragon-, Ground-, and Flying-type matchups which Roaring Moon can struggle with immensely on its own. Mandibuzz is another defensive option that pairs well with Roaring Moon as it is the only consistent hazard removal that Dark teams have access to, which allows Roaring Moon to not get chipped down over time, while also providing U-turn to allow Roaring Moon's safe entry if need be. Alolan Muk can be paired with Roaring Moon to help deal with strong Fairy-types such as Primarina and Choice Specs Iron Valiant. Lastly, Weavile can be paired with Roaring Moon as it can help weaken Ground-type foes that can wall Roaring Moon such as Hippowdon and Great Tusk, while also revenge killing Dragonite and Meowscarada with Ice Shard, giving Roaring Moon more room to setup with.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
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A set with Dragon Dance, Jaw Lock, Taunt, Roost in tandem with Shed Shell and an alternate EV spread of 112 HP / 116 Atk / 96 Def / 184 Spe can also be used as more of a niche setup sweeper option. Jaw Lock is able to trap bulky Pokemon on switch-in such as Toxapex and Gliscor, and then afflicting them with Taunt in order to prevent them from using Haze or Toxic to stop Roaring Moon, making them ideal targets to setup on. Shed Shell is used as Jaw Lock traps the user as well, allowing Roaring Moon to freely swap if it traps an unideal target. The given alternate EV spread allows Roaring Moon to outspeed Flutter Mane and Choice Scarf Gholdengo at +1, while also allowing it to 1v1 Gliscor. Iron Head can also be used over Roost and Taunt in order to defeat Pokemon that can easily deal with Knock Off and Earthquake such as Galarian Weezing and Iron Valiant.


[CREDITS]
Written by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/sasha.510532/
Quality checked by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/pengairxan.622813/
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/captaindaimyo.602431/
Grammar checked by:

 

[sasha]

ready 4 qc

 

[Pengairxan]

Gonna snipe this for a AMQC.

 

[Pengairxan]

Approved by Cats (2019)
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Roar of Moon

[SET COMMENTS]
With Dragon Dance, Roaring Moon becomes an oppressive sweeper capable of taking on many threatening Pokemon at +1 such as Choice Specs Flutter Mane, Iron Valiant, and Greninja. Knock Off is Roaring Moon's strongest STAB when the opposing Pokemon is holding an item (Dex Info), and also helps remove defensive items like Leftovers and Heavy-Duty Boots from their holders such as Landorus-T and Corviknight respectively (Probably retool to give targets you're hitting as a sweeper instead since this makes it seem right now that Roaring Moon is playing a defensive roll like Alolan Muk or Ting-Lu instead of being an offensive sweeper). Earthquake is the coverage move of choice as it allows Roaring Moon to hit defensive foes that can otherwise wall it even at +1, such as Toxapex and Torkoal. Roost allows Roaring Moon to retain HP and setup further if needed, while Taunt can be used to stop foes such as Mandibuzz and Toxapex from neutering Roaring Moon with status moves such as Toxic and Haze.

Kingambit is a necessary teammate as it is able to handle Fairy-types that can neutralize Roaring Moon before a boost such as Flutter Mane and X Hatterene. Ting-Lu also pairs nicely with Roaring Moon as it is able to provide support in its colorful access to entry hazards that aid in Roaring Moons sweeping capabilities, while also being able to stomach Fairy-type attacks from Iron Valiant and the aforementioned Flutter Mane and hit them back with Heavy Slam. Sableye in tandem with Knock Off and Will-O-Wisp is able to help make progress against bulky Pokemon that generally shrug off Roaring Moon's attacks such as Skarmory and Corviknight, while also providing an invaluable Fighting-type immunity. (Personally speaking, I would redo so its Sableye creating oppertunies for Roaring Moon to set up with Encore + Wisp on targets locked into being now unable to touch you such as the steel birds but also something like Great Tusk) Choice Scarf Meowscarada is able to outspeed the likes of Dragapult and Choice Scarf Latios and OHKO them with Knock Off to alleviate pressure on Roaring Moon. Lastly, Choice Specs Greninja with its plethora of coverage options aids the Fighting-, Dragon-, Ground-, and Flying-type matchups which Roaring Moon can struggle with immensely on its own. (There is 4 types here, maybe cut down on one of these along with giving an example from each type of a mon Roaring mon struggles with.)
(Add Mandibuzz for Hazard control and another way to help deal with Fighting-types and Alolan Muk to help deal with Fairies (notably Primarina, and Choice Specs Iron Valiant which Gambit and Ting-Lu aren't checking comfortably.) And being able to Knock + Spread Poison making it harder for defensive checks to check you. Also Weavile/Pao add (probably wait to see how the suspect) goes since Roaring moon can weaken threats that could check the Evil Ice.)

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============
A set with Dragon Dance, Jaw Lock, Taunt, Roost in tandem with Shed Shell and the alternate EV spread given can also be used as more of a niche setup sweeper option. Jaw Lock is able to trap bulky Pokemon on switch-in such as Toxapex and Gliscor, and then afflicting them with Taunt in order to prevent them from using Haze or Toxic to stop Roaring Moon, making them ideal targets to setup on. Shed Shell is used as Jaw Lock traps the user as well, allowing Roaring Moon to freely swap if it traps an unideal target. The given alternate EV spread allows Roaring Moon to outspeed Flutter Mane and Choice Scarf Gholdengo at +1, while also allowing it to 1v1 Gliscor. (The Alternative EV Spread should be moved to here being "An alternative EV Spread of...." instead of being mentioned up front. Also Neko wants Iron Head over Roost/Taunt as an OO, you can deal with Fairy now comfortably and Weezing-G doesn't completely smoke you.)

approved by cat(to) -

 

[sasha]

sorry, im not one to do this ever but there are a lot of things i disagree with and dont really think should be implemented:

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Sableye in tandem with Knock Off and Will-O-Wisp is able to help make progress against bulky Pokemon that generally shrug off Roaring Moon's attacks such as Skarmory and Corviknight, while also providing an invaluable Fighting-type immunity. (Personally speaking, I would redo so its Sableye creating oppertunies for Roaring Moon to set up with Encore + Wisp on targets locked into being now unable to touch you such as the steel birds but also something like Great Tusk)

the amount of times roaring moon has to setup on any of these mons is basically +6 to even have a chance to ohko them, they dont become setup fodder just because you encore them they'll be just fine after the encore is over in most cases, especially with knock and eq being your only forms of attacking

Fighting-, Dragon-, Ground-, and Flying-type matchups which Roaring Moon can struggle with immensely on its own. (There is 4 types here, maybe cut down on one of these along with giving an example from each type of a mon Roaring mon struggles with.)

theres nothing really wrong with 4 examples, and the matchups as a whole all have a plethora of options to wall roaring moon, great tusk, whirlwind hippo, archaludon before boosting, basically most fighting mons are fine against knock eq coverage, and you have the steel birds for flying, even band mamo to revenge roaring moon once chipped a bit, scarf pult to revenge roaring moon, etc, i feel its disingenuous to just list a few examples when imo its not really getting the same point across

(Add Mandibuzz for Hazard control and another way to help deal with Fighting-types

mandibuzz is usually mono foul play (or at least it is in the importable sets, which is what we should be writing around), its not helping anything vs fighting honestly even with brave bird, if anything its a momentum sap, though i did mention defog cuz thats the only reason ur ever using mandi

Also Weavile/Pao add (probably wait to see how the suspect) goes since Roaring moon can weaken threats that could check the Evil Ice.)

weavile/pao have very similar checks to roaring moon being stuff like steel birds etc so i dont really think roaring moon should be weakening those foes for weavile or pao at all, if anything weavile/pao should be weakening tusk or hippo for roaring moon, but ill wait for pao suspect to end anyway before mentioning them

everything else though i implemented and will mention pao/weavile after the suspect ends

 

[sasha]

rdy 4 qc2

 

[CaptainDaimyo]

DD RM

[SET COMMENTS]
With Dragon Dance, Roaring Moon becomes an oppressive sweeper capable of taking on many threatening Pokemon at +1 such as Choice Specs Flutter Mane, Iron Valiant, and non-Choice Scarf Greninja. Knock Off is Roaring Moon's strongest STAB, and also helps remove defensive items like Leftovers and Heavy-Duty Boots from their holders such as Landorus-T and Corviknight respectively which allows Roaring Moon to muscle past and sweep them easier. Earthquake is the coverage move of choice as it allows Roaring Moon to hit defensive foes that can otherwise wall it even at +1, such as Toxapex and Torkoal. Roost allows Roaring Moon to retain HP and setup further if needed, while Taunt can be used to stop foes such as Mandibuzz and Toxapex from neutering Roaring Moon with status moves such as Toxic and Haze.

Kingambit is a necessary teammate as it is able to handle Fairy-types that can neutralize Roaring Moon before a boost such as Flutter Mane and Hatterene (here you could mention rm taking on fires for gambit like gouging and non-ab heatran). Ting-Lu also pairs nicely with Roaring Moon as it is able to provide support in its colorful access to entry hazards that aid in Roaring Moons sweeping capabilities, while also being able to stomach Fairy-type attacks from Iron Valiant and the aforementioned Flutter Mane and hit them back with Heavy Slam. Sableye in tandem with Knock Off and Will-O-Wisp is able to help make progress against bulky Pokemon that generally shrug off Roaring Moon's attacks such as Skarmory and Corviknight, while also providing an invaluable Fighting-type immunity (you can also add how it dissuades setup from opposing sweepers with encore). Choice Scarf Meowscarada is able to outspeed the likes of Dragapult and Choice Scarf Latios and OHKO them with Knock Off to alleviate pressure on Roaring Moon. Choice Specs Greninja with its plethora of coverage options aids the Fighting-, Dragon-, Ground-, and Flying-type matchups which Roaring Moon can struggle with immensely on its own. Mandibuzz is another defensive option that pairs well with Roaring Moon as it is the only consistent hazard removal that Dark teams have access to, which allows Roaring Moon to not get chipped down over time, while also providing U-turn to allow Roaring Moon's safe entry if need be. Alolan Muk can be paired with Roaring Moon to help deal with strong Fairy-types such as Primarina and Choice Specs Iron Valiant. Lastly, Weavile can be paired with Roaring Moon as it can help weaken Ground-type foes that can wall Roaring Moon such as Hippowdon and Great Tusk, giving Roaring Moon more room to setup with. (mention revenge killing boosted sweepers and cleaners like nite and meow with ice shard so that roaring moon can start its own sweep)

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============
A set with Dragon Dance, Jaw Lock, Taunt, Roost in tandem with Shed Shell and an alternate EV spread of 112 HP / 116 Atk / 96 Def / 184 Spe can also be used as more of a niche setup sweeper option. Jaw Lock is able to trap bulky Pokemon on switch-in such as Toxapex and Gliscor, and then afflicting them with Taunt in order to prevent them from using Haze or Toxic to stop Roaring Moon, making them ideal targets to setup on. Shed Shell is used as Jaw Lock traps the user as well, allowing Roaring Moon to freely swap if it traps an unideal target. The given alternate EV spread allows Roaring Moon to outspeed Flutter Mane and Choice Scarf Gholdengo at +1, while also allowing it to 1v1 Gliscor. Iron Head can also be used over Roost and Taunt in order to defeat Pokemon that can easily deal with Knock Off and Earthquake such as Galarian Weezing and Iron Valiant.

QC 2/2!

 

[sasha]

idk how i didnt see this before oops, implemented though!
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