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Needless to say, I'm ecstatic that Kyogre is banned, despite not taking part in the voting (battling is most certainly not my forte, I'm more of a teambuilding gal). So, here's my thoughts on where I think the meta will go. (This one's very long, be warned.)

I strongly disagree that Dry Skin is better than Rain Dish. The Water immunity is nice but it's just a hindrance against sun teams, which - I've mentioned before - I believe will gain a lot of popularity if Kyogre is banned. Not only will the main Water spammer be gone but the other main Rain...

before the suspect test ends i wanna just share my thoughts on a mon that fits REALLY well on Rain if Kyogre gets banned i'm honestly really surprised this hasn't gotten more usage - decent special bulk, base 100 speed, tons of utility in Knock Off/Rapid Spin along with three amazing abilities...

I'd like to give an update on this little concept I've been building. I've done a couple of ladder games and there are three very obvious problems: Grumpig is fucking awful, priority spam destroys the team (namely Scizor and Rillaboom teams), and hazards SUCK, even with Maushold to clean them...

that's my general thought process, to be honest; i really do feel like conk would be the only mon with enough raw power on switching in to deal with clef after one or two cosmic powers. Exca probably would too but I feel like that's just too strong, and would make sand teams as a whole...

So Sun is in a weird spot right now, in my opinion, given the state of Rain teams being so common but also having a ton of strong mons to abuse the many boosts that Sun provides. I wanted to build a semi-Berry team that vnmmv mentioned before. https://pokepast.es/2eed3a8bb4aea32a I didn't...

I've been pretty inactive in this OM lately but given the talk of potential bans/suspect tests, I'd like to weigh in on the mons currently being discussed in terms of bans. OK that's it, this meta is really cool but I do think overall it's in an unhealthy spot, and Clef, Basc and...

bro luffy is getting bashed and i am all for it, stop being so cocky my guy. if you want to brag about how good you are do it somewhere else. this thread is meant for discussion, not "haha im better than u lmaoooooooooo ur team SUCKS" also yeah imma be real anger shell teams never really made...

I don't really understand this, quite frankly. I've ran a somewhat unique Rain team with both Dry Skin and Rain Dish Blastoise, and it gives Kyogre a longevity that feels borderline unbeatable. Honestly, even just Dry Skin gives it a good resource to counter hazards (and why wouldn't you run Dry...

Also just bc I feel like this should be a separate post to my previous post, the fact that there is a meta in 2024 where the question of "Is Kyogre broken" is relevant is fucking insane. Shouldn't have been legal in the first place. Please, PLEASE ban it. And, in the same vein, Groudon should be...

Weezing, and Weezing-G, actually have decent movepools, however it's their stats that make them lackluster, but is meant to be a defensive utility mon. But the thing is, in a meta where abilities are the center of the format, an ability to nullify any and all abilities completely becomes...

Kyogre: No idea why Kyogre and Groudon were ever legal, to be quite honest. Two crazy strong Ubers with weathers that support the whole team, plus good movepools and stats off the charts for a tier where Lycanroc is a prominent mon. QD: yeah. Proto's restricted, but not qd? Okay. I understand...

ok then i raise you THIS Electivire @ Trailblaze Ability: Motor Drive Tera Type: Electric EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe Adamant Nature - Supercell Slam - Bulk Up - Earthquake - Fire Punch yeah i just like weak mons being good in oms so yeh (actually i have no idea why this...

havent touched this format in a HOT minute, but it's fun and i wanted to make some sets w the dlc2 mons and other mons i like since i've been on a hiatus and they got added during this hiatus (minus excadrill because it seems like it's just a worse version of quaq :scream:) (i also didnt bother...

Not super sure about the others, but I feel qualified (kinda) to comment on this one. T-Spikes, while great, I find to be way too easily shut down by Levitate, HDB, Purifying Salt, Guts, literally just Poison types like Pex, Dragalge, Toxicroak, the Toxic Trio, etc. Also, spinnable/defoggable...

just realized that 4/6 mons on this team r choiced, plus 1 if pult instead of bee, so like i doubled down https://pokepast.es/cfcdf4f51b9060e6 alt basc set: choice scarf is funny yeah thats it i just thought it was funny, also i fixed the evs

here's what i'm thinking then: use pult instead of ribombee. speed control, more offensive stuff, plus benefits from adap, rain, mega launcher, dragon's maw. Also, pivots r fun. idk i feel like webs can be kind of ignored with this instead of bee, since clear body, and rocks n spikes aren't...

me n CandyBirch be COOKING (credits to the core go to them, Ribombee and Kyogre were me tho) https://pokepast.es/93d43356a590d243 descriptions My earlier version: https://pokepast.es/fbef0471d3d5311a or CandyBirch's version: https://pokepast.es/6dd678a8eb8b96b3 Speed boosting QD is useful...

another update APPARENTLY, Lugia is legal in this format for some reason. Psychic noise for zama on Harvest teams, whirlwind for forcing it out after a setup, and a quad resist on Body Press plus providing a very low base power for Heavy Slam. Earth Power for tera Steel, and recover for...

ive been tweaking this team (with some help from CandyBirch) and i've figured out a few things 1. ALWAYS loses to Iron Boulder, unless you pick a defensive tera type (smthn to live an eq) 2. Also always loses to Zama carrying Agility. This one's a given I think. 3. Holy balls it is strong...